Chinese envoy terms Rakhine issue Myanmar’s internal affair

[Banglar Bir]

I think she has realized the mood and sense of the people of Myanmar is not aligned with the view of the West. At the end of the day, she has to be in the part of the system in Myanmar. That is why, lot of Western nations started to criticize her and demanded her to withdraw the nobel prize.

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[RISING SUN]

Yes, the great Irish famine.

There is nothing which gives the impression that Irish were given sanctuary en masse in any of Islamic countries. There is only mention of £1,000 money donated by Turkish empire. Nothing else. Can you provide something which corroborates your claim? Thank You.

 

[帅的一匹]

Muslims in China told to hand over Quran or face harsh punishment
Agencies
Published at 11:27 AM September 30, 2017
Last updated at 11:37 AM September 30, 2017

Muslims in China during prayers AFP
The directive was reportedly announced via the WeChat social network
Chinese authorities are reportedly ordering Muslims in the country “to hand over their prayer mats and copies of the Quran” or else face punishment.

Citing a leader in exile, the Independent reports that officials in Xinjiang province have warned members of the Uyghur ethnic minority they must surrender religious items on pain of “harsh punishments.”

Dilxat Raxit of the (exile) World Uyghur Congress told the US government operated Radio Free Asia (RFA): “We received a notification saying that every single ethnic Uyghur must hand in any Islam-related items from their own home, including Qurans, prayers and anything else bearing the symbols of religion.”

The directive – reportedly announced via the WeChat social network – also applies to ethnic Kazakh and Kyrgyz Muslims, RFA said on Wednesday.

According to a reporton China in 2016-17 by Amnesty International, the communist Beijing government “continued to violate the right to freedom of religion, and crack down on all unauthorised religious gatherings” and Uyghur writers.

The 2009 tension between Uighurs and Han Chinese led to “violence that left scores dead.”

“Hundreds of people have died in the protracted conflict between separatists and the Chinese government in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, its full name, which sits on China’s far north-western border,” reports the Independent.

Even though, Beijing has blamed the problems on Islamist militants, many rights groups claim the violence “in reaction to repressive Chinese policy.” In turn, the rebels claim the region has been “illegally occupied since 1949.”

Meanwhile, peaceful protests have taken place alongside bombings and other violent attacks on Chinese security forces and institutions, reports the UK news outlet.

According to a report by Press Trust of India (PTI), China dismissed reports that said authorities were seizing copies of the Quran from Muslim families in Xinjiang province as groundless allegations.”

10 million Uyghur Muslims reside in the north-western Xinjiang region.
Calling the situation in Xinjiang “sound,” the Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Lu Kang said that local residents were “working and living in peace.”
“We hope relevant parties refrain from making groundless allegations and rumours,” he added.
http://www.dhakatribune.com/world/2017/09/30/muslims-china-told-hand-quran-face-harsh-punishment/
Any comments on the news article published above?

Fake news. Uyghers are Muslim, and they are citizens of PRC as well. Religion can't go beyond Constitutions.
If Rohingyas are not Muslim, will BD give a shit about them?

I think most of BD members sympathize Rohingyas because they are your distant relatives. Not just because they are Muslim, but for the blood connections.

Muslim, or what ever religious believers, need to obey the law of the country they live.

 

[RISING SUN]

Palestine gave shelter to Jews. Jews behind was saved by the Palestinian from the Roman Catholic.

I have been able to gather 9 incidents where present Israeli land saw large scan massacre(8 directly against Jews) and 5 of these were done by Arabic people against Jews. 2 by Europeans, 1 by Druzes and 1 combined by Druze and Arabic people. And mind it I have done study on only the time period for this case since Islam was well spread in Middle East. And all history books give information that Jews were native, so sanctuary en mass doesn't apply to them when they are in their own home. Can you give reference of any Islamic empire which gave sanctuary to non-Islamic oppressed people? Thank You.

 

[帅的一匹]

In Muslim world, there is a very distorted view. Only a Muslim has the right to judge another Muslim, other Religious believer or non-believers, I mean if they bring an Mulism perpetrator to justice is an offend to the whole Muslim world. If this is so, then then whole will be in chaos. Religion can never go beyond Constitutions, the majority view of the society need to be respected.
In China, nothing can go beyond the Constitutions, no matter Buddhism, Christianity, or Islam.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Fake news.

That's relieving news, practising Religion,as one believes, is a fundamental Universal right,and China is a signatory of these UN norms as well as to ensure R2P.That's exactly what the Chinese troops are ensuring in overseas global UN missions

 

[帅的一匹]

I have been able to gather 9 incidents where present Israeli land saw large scan massacre(8 directly against Jews) and 5 of these were done by Arabic people against Jews. 2 by Europeans, 1 by Druzes and 1 combined by Druze and Arabic people. And mind it I have done study on only the time period for this case since Islam was well spread in Middle East. And all history books give information that Jews were native, so sanctuary en mass doesn't apply to them when they are in their own home. Can you give reference of any Islamic empire which gave sanctuary to non-Islamic oppressed people? Thank You.

It's good to be an atheist country or a country with Majority same religious believers. That's why India and Pakistan seperated. And even with same religious belief, Pakistan and BD seperated because different culture practice and different ethnicity.

That's relieving news, practising Religion,as one believes, is a fundamental Universal right,and China is a signatory of these UN norms as well as to ensure R2P.That's exactly what the Chinese troops are ensuring in overseas global UN missions

Religious believers are legally protected in China, as long as they obey the Constitutions.

We even have tens of thousands of Indonesian/Malay Muslim descendant in the city of Sanya. We have very much confidence to take care of Muslim minorities with wisdom and generosity. The central goverment Will not adopt iron hands on Muslim people like Myanmar just because very few Islamic terrorists seek for violence and independence.

 

[Banglar Bir]

Pakistan and BD separated because different culture practice and different ethnicity.

Agree to disagree,there are much more than you can imagine, gross blunders on the part of the Politicians,Cold war syndrome, RAW'S blatant interference and implementation of breakup of Pakistan,debunk the "Two Nations Theory", "Divide and Rule"policy,etc.Kindly browse through the lengthy articles in the pinned forum on liberation of Bangladesh. hope the events will be crystal clear.

 

[帅的一匹]

There is lot of way to console religious minorities. For example: improve their income, skills, living standard, better educations, better infrastructure, and so on.
Ethnical cleansing is very wrong, and will impose harm in the long run. And the religious minority shall also adapts themselves to the mainstay society, shall not isolate themselves from the rest of the country.

Agree to disagree,there are much more than you can imagine, gross blunders on the part of the Politicians,Cold war syndrome, RAW'S blatant interference and implementation of breakup of Pakistan,debunk the "Two Nations Theory", "Divide and Rule"policy,etc.Kindly browse through the lengthy articles in the pinned forum on liberation of Bangladesh. hope the events will be crystal clear.

I understand.

 

[Banglar Bir]

There is lot of way to console religious minorities. For example: improve their income, skills, living standard, better educations, better infrastructure, and so on.
Ethnical cleansing is very wrong, and will impose harm in the long run. And the religious minority shall also adapts themselves to the mainstay society, shall not isolate themselves from the rest of the country.I understand.

An earnest request to the concerned leaders of our time tested,all weather strategic partners,high time to implement and enforce your moral values on these rogue nations, before the situation gets out of our hands, and you exactly know what we are talking here about.

 

[帅的一匹]

An earnest request to the concerned leaders of our time tested,all weather strategic partners,high time to implement and enforce your moral values on these rogue nations, before the situation gets out of our hands, and you exactly know what we are talking here about.

Bro, I'm not leader of PRC. My personal opinion doesn't matter.

 

[RISING SUN]

It's good to be an atheist country or a country with Majority same religious believers. That's why India and Pakistan seperated. And even with same religious belief, Pakistan and BD seperated because different culture practice and different ethnicity.


Religious believers are legally protected in China, as long as they obey the Constitutions.

We even have tens of thousands of Indonesian/Malay Muslim descendant in the city of Sanya. We have very much confidence to take care of Muslim minorities with wisdom and generosity. The central government Will not adopt iron hands on Muslim people like Myanmar just because very few Islamic terrorists seek for violence and independence.

India and Pakistan separated because few Muslim citizens thought they couldn't share political space with their Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh and many others colleagues. Far different compared to Pakistan and Bangladesh. We have since then remain united as we are Dharmic culture based country least interested in religion and more in cultural things. We do have some differences and some similarities, but that is all. We both are unique. Thank you.

 

[帅的一匹]

India and Pakistan separated because few Muslim citizens thought they couldn't share political space with their Hindu, Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Jain, Sikh and many others colleagues. Far different compared to Pakistan and Bangladesh. We have since then remain united as we are Dharmic culture based country least interested in religion and more in cultural things. We do have some differences and some similarities, but that is all. We both are unique. Thank you.

What is done is done. I hope the tragedy in Myanmar can end soon. Both China, India, Russia, NATO, Japan want Myanmar at their side, Rohingyas is on their own. The previous masters of Aung Sang Sukyi didn't expect her adopting an balanced and pragmatic foreign policy towards China. The Rohingyas issue bad been there since Myanmarr's establishment, why China shall be held responsible for it? Do you think Myanamr will listen to China's suggestion as many forumers said here? And more, General Mingh Ailang is not at Aung Sang's command. Burmese is not as comprehensive as Chinese.

 

[RISING SUN]

What is done is done. I hope the tragedy in Myanmar can end soon. Both China, India, Russia, NATO, Japan want Myanmar at their side, Rohingyas is on their own. The previous masters of Aung Sang Sukyi didn't expect her adopting an balanced and pragmatic foreign policy towards China. The Rohingyas issue bad been there since Myanmarr's establishment, why China shall be held responsible for it? Do you think Myanamr will listen to China's suggestion as many forumers said here? And more, General Mingh Ailang is not at Aung Sang's command. Burmese is not as comprehensive as Chinese.

First of it is wrong for you to use the word Master of Su Kyi as that is not advisable, and that I am saying not just being Indian(previous Masters I think you are referring to either India due to her studies here or western countries). Further rest of your points I agree and would like to add it's not in our interests to interfere in 3rd country. Thank you.

 

[帅的一匹]

First of it is wrong for you to use the word Master of Su Kyi as that is not advisable, and that I am saying not just being Indian(previous Masters I think you are referring to either India due to her studies here or western countries). Further rest of your points I agree and would like to add it's not in our interests to interfere in 3rd country. Thank you.

I mean her west sponsors, those who give her the Nobel prize and the fame.

And we can't exclude Aung Sang is just utilizing China to balance the pressure from Myanmar militia. We shall wait and see.