Chinese envoy terms Rakhine issue Myanmar’s internal affair

[kingQamaR]

Headless Bangladesh needs to man up and do something here by iitself you are a next door neighbour yes . So I don't understand what you hoping to achieve regional countries have shown no interest in this tragedy right . It's irreverent asking statements coming from China , Turkey and Iran its not going to stop this genocide You have contributed to Royingas ethnic cleansing by your actions ?

 

[idune]

Headless Bangladesh needs to man up and do something here by iitself you are a next door neighbour yes . So I don't understand what you hoping to achieve regional countries have shown no interest in this tragedy right . It's irreverent asking statements coming from China , Turkey and Iran its not going to stop this genocide You have contributed to Royingas ethnic cleansing by your actions ?

While Bangladesh under "current regime" failed to take actions, China vetoing in UNSC giving Myanmar support and encouragement for genocide. That is the point. Unless you are thick headed, you should get that by now.

 

[kingQamaR]

While Bangladesh under "current regime" failed to take actions, China vetoing in UNSC giving Myanmar support and encouragement for genocide. That is the point. Unless you are thick headed, you should get that by now.

If that sails your boat then sail on it
Damn it the Chinese veto has stopped Bangladesh in its track I feel your frustration .
ethnic cleansing by Myanmar has been Ongoing since 70s/80s /90s . I will wait for you to reply back to me on this strangely no amount of world has had any effect on Myanmar at all . Genocide continues with speed . One veto lol
cheers I'm quite chuffed Its thick headed not had any complaints so far .

 

[UKBengali]

If that sails your boat then sail on it
Damn it the Chinese veto has stopped Bangladesh in its track I feel your frustration .
ethnic cleansing by Myanmar has been Ongoing since 70s/80s /90s . I will wait for you to reply back to me on this strangely no amount of world has had any effect on Myanmar at all . Genocide continues with speed . One veto lol
cheers I'm quite chuffed Its thick headed not had any complaints so far .

What you are saying is partly true dude.

However, China is not helping by using it's veto power to protect Myanmar from UN censure and ultimately sanctions.

One silver lining for BD is that the econnomy is growing very fast(7%+) every year and the economy is 3.5x that of Myanmar. When a government finally comes into power that is serious about dealing with this problem, it will have the cash resources to build a military to solve this problem once and for all.

 

[Nilgiri]

Chinese short sighted policy will come back to haunt them. Helping Myanmar conducting genocide, they will not able to use Rakhine port and transport facility as planned. Let Chinese learn it hard way.

Pay attention to the threats from mighty BD public/expats @Chinese-Dragon @Beast @TaiShang @wanglaokan

They imply terrorism will be used now against the 7 billion USD investment of China into Myanmar.

 

[UKBengali]

Pay attention to the threats from mighty BD public/expats @Chinese-Dragon @Beast @TaiShang @wanglaokan

They imply terrorism will be used now against the 7 billion USD investment of China into Myanmar.

Who say terrorism is being implied here? Do not let your bigotry read things that are not there.

The poster is probably referring to a start of a severe insurgency when an oppressed population finally take up arms to protect their land from savages. The Rohingya have been in Arakan for many centuries after all and will not give up their rightful land without a fight.

 

[TaiShang]

How could it not be an internal affair? After all, it is ongoing inside Myanmar. The ramifications may have negative externalities on neighbors such as Bangladesh, but, the root cause has to be solved internally without outside intervention.

Outside intervention may come only in the form of humanitarian aid without making any political or cultural discrimination against any parties to the conflict.

Military internationalization must be a no-go area. China won't allow Balkanization or Middle Easternization in our region. No Yugoslavia or Syria in this region. At all cost.

 

[Nilgiri]

How could it not be an internal affair? After all, it is ongoing inside Myanmar. The ramifications may have negative externalities on neighbors such as Bangladesh, but, the root cause has to be solved internally without outside intervention.

Outside intervention may come only in the form of humanitarian aid without making any political or cultural discrimination against all parties to the conflict.

Military internationalization must be a no-go area. China won't allow Balkanization or Middle Easternization in our region. No Yugoslavia or Syria in this region. At all cost.

100% spot on.

Who say terrorism is being implied here? Do not let your bigotry read things that are not there.

The poster is probably referring to a start of a severe insurgency when an oppressed population finally take up arms to protect their land from savages. The Rohingya have been in Arakan for many centuries after all and will not give up their rightful land without a fight.

The infra will "not be allowed to be used by China" and "China will learn the hard way".

Anyone with basic rudimentary sense can read between the lines what is being implied there.

 

[idune]

100% spot on.
India will make sure the infra will "not be allowed to be used by China" and "China will learn the hard way". Anyone with basic rudimentary sense can read between the lines and understand indian plan to exploit the situation and blame it on others.

We can see through indian intention.

How could it not be an internal affair? After all, it is ongoing inside Myanmar. The ramifications may have negative externalities on neighbors such as Bangladesh, but, the root cause has to be solved internally without outside intervention.

Outside intervention may come only in the form of humanitarian aid without making any political or cultural discrimination against all parties to the conflict.

Military internationalization must be a no-go area. China won't allow Balkanization or Middle Easternization in our region. No Yugoslavia or Syria in this region. At all cost.

we have heard these "internal affair" trash talk, no one is naive here.

 

[TaiShang]

we have heard these "internal affair" trash talk, no one is naive here.

I do not know how things move in South Asia, my friend. But, in East Asia of which Myanmar is a part, China seeks regional solutions to regional problems without taking sides.

Any US-promoted UN-led action would invite international military and economic sanctions in our region, which would further exacerbate the problem at hand.

Without being arrested by ethno-religio feelings and ties, China approaches the problem realistically, from non-interventionist and sovereignty perspective. It offers humanitarian help for all sides that are suffering regardless of their ethnic-cultural background. However, politically, China does not recognize any sovereign or legitimate actor in Myanmar other than the government of Myanmar.

That's that which has kept China on a steady path of ensuring a long peace in East Asia despite of all turmoils and provocations.

Obviously there must be lots of geopolitics going on with respect to this issue and no one is naive not to see that. But, the precondition is a state of warlessness. In any case, a bad peace is still better than a "just" war, which has been badly used by the US in the Middle East/North Africa.

 

[idune]

I do not know how things move in South Asia, my friend. But, in East Asia of which Myanmar is a part, China seeks regional solutions to regional problems without taking sides.

China is NOT a honest broker and lost its credibility in Bangladesh. There is no point pledging Chinese position.

 

[Banglar Bir]

'One country, however, has expressed unwavering public support for the country and its policies. China supports Burma’s efforts to “uphold peace and stability,” a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said on Sept. 12.
That same week, to show support for the regime, Beijing opened a liaison office in Naypyidaw, the capital — a step other powerful nations have been reluctant to take because of the city’s isolation and its association with the former ruling junta.'

Opinion | The one country that refuses to condemn the ethnic cleansing in Burma
Beijing's response to the crisis shows what a Chinese-led world will look like.
WASHINGTONPOST.COM

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Military internationalization must be a no-go area. China won't allow Balkanization or Middle Easternization in our region. No Yugoslavia or Syria in this region. At all cost.

So you're trying to say China will fight for Mayanmar?

'One country, however, has expressed unwavering public support for the country and its policies. China supports Burma’s efforts to “uphold peace and stability,” a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson said on Sept. 12.
That same week, to show support for the regime, Beijing opened a liaison office in Naypyidaw, the capital — a step other powerful nations have been reluctant to take because of the city’s isolation and its association with the former ruling junta.'

Opinion | The one country that refuses to condemn the ethnic cleansing in Burma
Beijing's response to the crisis shows what a Chinese-led world will look like.
WASHINGTONPOST.COM

They got a very good point...

 

[UKBengali]

I do not know how things move in South Asia, my friend. But, in East Asia of which Myanmar is a part, China seeks regional solutions to regional problems without taking sides.

Any US-promoted UN-led action would invite international military and economic sanctions in our region, which would further exacerbate the problem at hand.

Without being arrested by ethno-religio feelings and ties, China approaches the problem realistically, from non-interventionist and sovereignty perspective. It offers humanitarian help for all sides that are suffering regardless of their ethnic-cultural background. However, politically, China does not recognize any sovereign or legitimate actor in Myanmar other than the government of Myanmar.

That's that which has kept China on a steady path of ensuring a long peace in East Asia despite of all turmoils and provocations.

Obviously there must be lots of geopolitics going on with respect to this issue and no one is naive not to see that. But, the precondition is a state of warlessness. In any case, a bad peace is still better than a "just" war, which has been badly used by the US in the Middle East/North Africa.

Wars in ME were not just wars.
Protecting Rohingya from ethnic cleansing is a just war like what happened in former Yugoslavia
to protect Bosnians and Albanians.
In 10 years time, we shall use the term former Myanmar.

 

[TaiShang]

So you're trying to say China will fight for Mayanmar?

Not necessarily. It will prevent a war from happening. When there is no war, there is no need to fight it. War is the last resort of all last resorts. It is not so simple to arrange an internationally-sanctioned army and clamp down on a country. The implications would be terrible for all sides. Political solution is still the way to go.

Wars in ME were not just wars.
Protecting Rohingya from ethnic cleansing is a just war like what happened in former Yugoslavia
to protect Bosnians and Albanians.

Just or not depends on from which angle you look at it. For the same Western media that people suddenly loved to quote here were supporting the wars in the Middle East as just wars on similar grounds. If the West is the same West, whose heart has changed so dramatically that it began to promote a just war on Myanmar?

China avoided a veto on Libya but that was years ago and China is not the same country as it is today in terms of national power. Besides, Libya was/is thousands of miles of away from China. Myanmar, on the other hand, is a neighbor which has had amicable and good relations with China, including defense and energy cooperation.

It would take a strategy midget to invite foreign powers to intervene in a crisis across one's borders.

Besides, morally, it is right to side with the government of Myanmar (if morality ever matters), just as it was moral to side with the government of Syria years ago when things were not going well for the government of Syria and many countries, including some of Syria's neighbors, were flying over the country like vultures.

In 10 years time, we shall use the term former Myanmar.

Quite impossible. One has to attack Myanmar on their own volition, without the UNSC approval and endangering potential action by China and Russia. The world is different from what it was ten years ago. Ten years later, it will be a lot different from now.

Those who side with China on principle-based international relations will have the upper hand.