Chinese Diplomat: Expect War if US Sends Navy Ships to Taiwan

[gambit]

Old man time to get yourself educated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Taiwanese

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95-98% of the Taiwanese population are Taiwanese Hans, only 2,3% of the population are Taiwanese aboriginals. Unless you want to deny their heritage that is. It's like saying White American people saying we are Americans, we deny our British, Scottish, French, German or whatever ancestry. The chances you working with Taiwanese Hans representing Taiwan rather you working with Taiwanese Aboriginals. Facts are facts, Taiwanese Hans all came from Mainland China.

That does not mean the Taiwanese considers themselves Chinese in the cultural context. Who is 'denying' their heritage ? If a Taiwanese tells me he is Taiwanese, who am I, or who are YOU for that matter, to tell him he is Chinese ?

 

[Avijit]

China won't do crap. Has it ever done anything instead of just talking? Always picking on weak nations or nations when they are weak. Taiwan has the tech and the backing. While a war may result in Taiwan being defeated, it won't end well for China. The question is, with how much human and economic loss is China willing to pay to get a small island that doesn't even pose a threat to it? I believe this is what makes China and North Korea similar and friendly to each other, the fact that they're always barking.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

The Taiwan Strait will be China's graveyard in any military confrontation with Taiwan. An given the huge advances we're seeing in the US antiship arsenal, China is setting itself up for global humiliation.

You really think US will have a flawless victory and get away unharmed as during Irak war? Taiwan straite will certain not be the only theater, Chinese Generals once ask if US willing to lost there western Pacific coastal cities to defend Taiwan? what ever US interest within our reach, we will make sure to capitalized on its.

Remember this... US is just by definition a coward Nation only seeking overwhelming superiority over their enemies, during WWII, the coward Americans couldn't defeat Japan Navy and resort to use NUKE, Americans are just worthy to carrying a mark of shame and cowardice, opportunist to bully a weak nations...that who there are. As for China is buying time not to do provocative move and let American bleeding elsewhere but if US is picking China as enemy and harm our interests, we certain wont let US interest unharmed neither as during 1960..it's two ways street until Nixon & Kissinger came to offer peace.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

China won't do crap. Has it ever done anything instead of just talking? Always picking on weak nations or nations when they are weak. Taiwan has the tech and the backing. While a war may result in Taiwan being defeated, it won't end well for China. The question is, with how much human and economic loss is China willing to pay to get a small island that doesn't even pose a threat to it? I believe this is what makes China and North Korea similar and friendly to each other, the fact that they're always barking.

As matter of fact, we once pick a nation name INDIA which our size despite that we were much weaker and during the famine period and we event dare to take the entire UN army during Korean War which no nation on earth have the gut...not even the mighty US had ever fought a UN army. We will have zero casualty if we decide to take Taiwan by force, set naval blocade for 10 days, Taiwan will be collapse & surrender without fight, even Taiwanese themselves confessed in Youtube, we shall have similar 1962 flawless victory as we decided to teach India some lessions.

 

[royalharris]

The United States should do exactly that, send a naval ship to dock at Taiwan & exercise with the ROCN. We'll see then if China has the guts to enact its "Anti-Secession Law" (and subsequently sign an instrument of unconditional surrender in the bombed-out hollows of Beijing a few years later) or stay put.

Both USA and Taiwan don't have the balls

It is USA's habitual tricks that use Taiwan as chips to leverage its interest
During peace time,Taiwan has its value as chip to USA ;Once there is conflict,Taiwan will become negative value to USA, usa will just throw it away like toilet paper
This is why USA always controls the overrating behaviors of Taiwan to keep its value when things get hard
Taiwan is also not a idiot

In political games, all the countries are actors to pursuing its interest, Don't judge things by what they say or proposal you should dig the real purpose

Be mature, man

 

[terranMarine]

Taiwan shall never declare independence, because it would meaning signing its death warrant. China is winning this long game as time goes by. In the end Taiwan will be forced to accept what Mainland has to offer. All that BS talk from these morons are just kidding themselves.

 

[Arsalan 345]

Forget china,America can't even handle russia.look how Russia annexed Crimea,how North Korea is making more icbms and China controlling entire south China sea.america was a super power but Afghanistan and Syria makes them weak.they are not considered as a threat anymore.americans still living in nightmare!

 

[gambit]

You really think US will have a flawless victory and get away unharmed as during Irak war?

Flawless ? No. But victory ? Absolutely.

Remember this... US is just by definition a coward Nation only seeking overwhelming superiority over their enemies,...

And your China is the exception to this principle of war ?

...during WWII, the coward Americans couldn't defeat Japan Navy and resort to use NUKE,...

Are you serious in believing this ? Is this what is taught in China ?

 

[gambit]

global humiliation? like how the world was laughing at the 6 naval crashes?

Yeah...Am sure that after these accidents, the PLAN admirals are cheering among themselves that they now can take on the US Navy.

Taiwan doesn't stand a chance and it knows it hence nobody dares declare INDEPENDENCE.

Classified PLA field manuals and doctrines docs have been smuggled out of China that revealed the overall PLA strategies for Taiwan.

One of the many docs is this...


The authors pretty much made it clear to the ranks that taking on Taiwan WILL involve amphibious assault, limited land maneuvers due to geography, urban warfare, and mountain warfare. All of these factors favored the defenders. Conditions for any surprise attack are scarce if possible at all. The Nanjing Army Command Academy concurred. Unlike internet forums, these docs are written to sober up the readers who are military officers.

It all started with Mao who tasked these two 3rd Field Army generals...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Yu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zhen_(general)

...As to the feasibility of invading and taking Taiwan. After their research which includes the capabilities of the PLA and the fortifications made by the Taiwanese defenses, they agreed that the greatest vulnerability for any invasion plan is the water crossing. Forward to today, PLA war planners came to the same conclusion.

Taiwanese defenders do not need to have absolute air superiority over the strait or effective control on the water. All they have to do is produce %10 losses on the invaders to make any landing assault difficult to achieve and progress into the interiors bloody and brutal. When Su and Zhang were planning, they estimated a conservative count of 500,000 troops with 2/3 of them actually committed to the amphibious operations. From the water crossing, if even just %10 of that force is lost during the journey, the odds of victory dropped to 50/50. Those are odds no general want to face. Remember your history -- that 10,000 troops lost at Kinmen.

 

[terranMarine]

Yeah...Am sure that after these accidents, the PLAN admirals are cheering among themselves that they now can take on the US Navy.


Classified PLA field manuals and doctrines docs have been smuggled out of China that revealed the overall PLA strategies for Taiwan.

One of the many docs is this...


The authors pretty much made it clear to the ranks that taking on Taiwan WILL involve amphibious assault, limited land maneuvers due to geography, urban warfare, and mountain warfare. All of these factors favored the defenders. Conditions for any surprise attack are scarce if possible at all. The Nanjing Army Command Academy concurred. Unlike internet forums, these docs are written to sober up the readers who are military officers.

It all started with Mao who tasked these two 3rd Field Army generals...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Su_Yu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Zhen_(general)

...As to the feasibility of invading and taking Taiwan. After their research which includes the capabilities of the PLA and the fortifications made by the Taiwanese defenses, they agreed that the greatest vulnerability for any invasion plan is the water crossing. Forward to today, PLA war planners came to the same conclusion.

Taiwanese defenders do not need to have absolute air superiority over the strait or effective control on the water. All they have to do is produce %10 losses on the invaders to make any landing assault difficult to achieve and progress into the interiors bloody and brutal. When Su and Zhang were planning, they estimated a conservative count of 500,000 troops with 2/3 of them actually committed to the amphibious operations. From the water crossing, if even just %10 of that force is lost during the journey, the odds of victory dropped to 50/50. Those are odds no general want to face. Remember your history -- that 10,000 troops lost at Kinmen.

Old man explain why hasn't Taiwan declared independence? You talk as if it's mission impossible retaking Taiwan or that the PLA will suffer so much casualties it's a huge risk for China. They didn't declare decades ago and you think they stand a better chance today or in the future? Don't be ridiculous.

 

[SorryNotSorry]

China cant afford a war with the USA.
Even a whole carrier group docked in Taiwan wont drag China into a war with the US.
I call bs

 

[gambit]

Old man explain why hasn't Taiwan declared independence? You talk as if it's mission impossible retaking Taiwan or that the PLA will suffer so much casualties it's a huge risk for China. They didn't declare decades ago and you think they stand a better chance today or in the future? Don't be ridiculous.

Young pup...China do not need an official declaration of independence from Taiwan to invade. China can do that any time. Whether the PLA can survive is another issue, but an independence declaration as THE urge to invade ? Give us all a break from your silliness.

 

[kristisipe]

As matter of fact, we once pick a nation name INDIA which our size despite that we were much weaker and during the famine period and we event dare to take the entire UN army during Korean War which no nation on earth have the gut...not even the mighty US had ever fought a UN army. We will have zero casualty if we decide to take Taiwan by force, set naval blocade for 10 days, Taiwan will be collapse & surrender without fight, even Taiwanese themselves confessed in Youtube, we shall have similar 1962 flawless victory as we decided to teach India some lessions.

I wouldn't trust most of the stuff this shrew has to say about China and the world events. Most of her news materials are directly copied from the US news without much of independent thinking and investigations. I am certain she works indirectly for the US gov. However, she knows them DPP cupcakes very very well and she is absolutely right that them DPP cupcakes would flee and beg for mercy once the Chinese soldiers landed on the shores of TW.

 

[royalharris]

China didn't take back taiwan, the reason is not about "can or can not" nor "dare or dare not", it has nothing to do with balls
Taiwanese is chinese, it is against our value to take back taiwan by war, it will kill chinese people, destruct the infrastructure, hurt our overall national interest

The best way is by negoation just like hangkong
If we are forced to use military power, we need shorten the war time, for example, from one week, to 1 day or just 6 hours
It is not about foreign interference, it is about loss, we don't want a bombed piece of taiwan, we need a prosperus taiwan

To be honest,although i have a relatively positive view of indian, but indian surely have a low IQ and big mouth

 

[大汉奸柳传志]