see your pathetic jealous response, I can see you all totally ashame of Indian military at others mercy. Can't even make a proper gun
Ok You are not satisfied with my assessment with Chinese Dumb goods, read what Chinese expert says about Dumb Chinese Plane and enjoy. Mind you, the article was published by Chinese Media.
Chinese Media Takes Aim at J-15 Fighter | Defense News | defensenews.comTAIPEI
In an unusual departure for mainland Chinese-language media,
the Beijing-based Sina Military Network (SMN) criticized the capabilities of
the carrier-borne J-15 Flying Shark as nothing more than a flopping fish.
On Sept. 22, the state-controlled China Daily Times reported the new
aircraft carrier Liaoning had just finished a three-month voyage and
conducted over 100 sorties of various aircraft, of which the J-15 took
off and landed on the carrier with maximum load and various weapons.
This report was also carried on the official Liberation Army Daily.
Contradicting any report by official military or government media is unusual
in China given state control of the media.
What sounded more like a rant than analysis, SMN, on Sept. 23, reported
the new J-15 was incapable of flying from the Liaoning with heavy weapons,
effectively crippling its attack range and firepower.
The fighter can take off and land on the carrier with two YJ-83K anti-ship
missiles, two PL-8 air-to-air missiles, and four 500-kilogram bombs. But a
weapons load exceeding 12 tons will not get it off the carriers ski jump ramp.
This might prohibit it from carrying heavier munitions such as PL-12
medium-range air-to-air missiles.
To further complicate things, the J-15 can carry only two tons of weapons
while fully fueled. This would equip it with no more than two YJ-83K and
two PL-8 missiles, thus the range of the YJ-83K prepared for the fighter
will be shorter than comparable YJ-83K missiles launched from larger PLAN
[Peoples Liberation Army Navy] vessels. The J-15 will be boxed into less
than 120 [kilometers] of attack range.
Losing the ability to carry the PL-12 medium-range air-to-air missiles will
make the J-15 an unlikely match against other foreign carrier-based fighters.
Even the Vietnam Peoples Air Force can outmatch the PL-8 short-range
missile. Without space for an electronic countermeasure pod, a huge number
of J-15s must be mobilized for even simple missions, a waste for the PLA Navy
in using the precious space aboard its sole aircraft carrier in service.
Built by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation, the J-15 is a copy of the
Russian-made Su-33. China acquired an Su-33 prototype from the Ukraine in
2001. Avionics are most likely the same as the J-11B (Su-27). In 2006,
Russia accused China of reverse engineering the Su-27 and canceled a
production license to build 200 Su-27s after only 95 aircraft had been built.
Vasily Kashin, a China military specialist at the Moscow-based Centre for
Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, suggests the J-15 might be a better
aircraft than the Su-33. I think that there might be some improvements
because electronic equipment now weighs less than in the 1990s, he said.
It could also be lighter due to new composites that China is using on the
J-11B that were not available on the original Su-33.
Despite improvements, Kashin wonders why the Chinese bothered with
the Su-33 given the fact that Russia gave up on it. Weight problems and
other issues forced the Russians to develop the MiG-29K, which has better
power-to-weight ratio and can carry more weapons. Of course, when the
Chinese get their future carriers equipped with catapults, that limitation
will not apply and they will be able to fully realize Su-33/J-15 potential
huge range and good payload, Kashin said.
The Liaoning is the problem. The carrier is small 53,000 tons and
uses a ski jump. From Russias experience, taking off from the carrier with
takeoff weight exceeding some 26 tons is very difficult, Kashin said.
Roger Cliff, a China defense specialist for the Center for Strategic and
Budgetary Assessments in Washington, said this is one of the reasons
why sky-jump carriers cant be considered to be equivalent to full-size
carriers with catapults.
A number of unanswered questions are raised by the SMN report, Kashin
said, including the amount of fuel on board, carrier speed, wind speed and
direction.
Cliff also raises issues with SMNs conclusions. It doesnt make sense to
me that the J-15 can take off with YJ-83s but not PL-12s, since the YJ-83
weighs about 1,800 pounds and the PL-12 weighs about 400 pounds.
A possible answer is that it was unable to take off with both. The article
says that it can only carry two tons of missiles and munitions when fully
fueled, which is 4,400 pounds, and two YJ-83s plus two PL-8s would weigh
over 4,000 pounds, leaving no margin for any PL-12s. But I dont see why it
couldnt take off with PL-12s if it wasnt carrying YJ-83s. Cliff concludes
that the J-15 should be capable of carrying PL-12s when it is flying purely
air-to-air missions and that it probably just cant carry PL-12s when it is
flying a strike mission.
Kashin said the J-15, unlike the Su-33, should have a potent internal
countermeasures suite, thus allowing for more space for weapons. The
SMN report suggests it has an external electronic countermeasures (ECM)
pod.
Weight issues should also not be too much of a problem for the J-15, he said,
since the Su-33 did fly from the same type of carrier carrying 6-8 air-to-air
missiles and Sorbtsia ECM pods carrying something like 6 to 6.5 tons of fuel.
Chinas next carriers will reportedly use electromagnetic catapults, Kashin
said, but limitations are significant when it comes to air-to-surface weapons,
which limit the J-15s use as a multirole fighter.
