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As a enabler of China's future military, China's domestic defence industry is one of the key beneficiaries of China's rapidly growing defence budget both as a supplier to the PLA and as an emerging player in the export marketplace.

Norinco

Aviation Industry Corporation of China

Poly Technologies

Guizhou Aircraft Industry Corporation

Harbin Aircraft Manufacturing Corporation

Inner-Mongolia First Machine Group Company Limited

Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation

Shaanxi Aircraft Corporation

Shenyang Aircraft Corporation

Sichuan Lantian Helicopter Company Limited

Harbin First Machinery Building Group Ltd

Hongdu Aviation Industry Group

China National Aero-Technology Import & Export Corporation

Changhe Aircraft Industries Corporation

Chengdu Aircraft Industry Group

Jiangnan Shipyard

China State Shipbuilding Corporation

China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation

China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation
 
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Chinese Role Evolves In Defense Exports

When it comes to future military export markets, the rise of China remains one of the big variables.

As an exporter, China may also be a growing force. It previously tried to challenge the likes of Russia, France, the U.K. and U.S. in the export market, but those attempts failed largely because of inferior equipment and lackluster commercial strategies. Chinese combat aircraft exports in 2005-09 represented only 4% of the global total, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri).

Nevertheless, there is growing momentum behind Beijing’s activities, as evidenced by recent sales of radar equipment to Venezuela and Ecuador, where Chinese companies defeated offerings from Russia, notes Siemon T. Wezeman, Sipri’s senior fellow for arms transfers. The offerings “were technically attractive enough” to best the competition, he says.

The Pentagon also points out that China sold a communications satellite to Nigeria and is trying to woo customers in Pakistan, Bolivia, Laos and Vietnam.

But China’s ambitions still face roadblocks. Take the case of the JF-17 fighter. Despite its breakthrough order with Pakistan—the first batch of single-engine fighters has been delivered—dependence on Russian engines is a problem. Wezeman notes that in Egypt, where Russia wants to sell MiG‑29s, the powerplant issue has been a handicap in trying to sell the JF-17.

Consequently, China is now working on a domestically developed turbojet. “The more Russia puts a hold on equipment transfer, the more the Chinese are pushing” to develop their own offerings, Wezeman says.

Industry observers, meanwhile, expect Beijing to try to capitalize on its growing foreign-policy reach into new markets such as Africa, particularly since the price of many Chinese offerings may be attractive to those buyers. The JF-17 is marketed at less than $25 million, and China is also offering an impressive array of air-to-air and air-to-ground weapons to arm the fighter.

A breakout order for the J-10 also has been in the works with Pakistan, although no firm delivery plans for the $40-million aircraft have been disclosed.

Playing the offset game—essential for success in the global arms market—is another area where China is likely to become more sophisticated. One export offering China is betting on is the L-15 jet trainer. Catic officials see Ukraine as a potential buyer and signal that they may offer offshore assembly.

However, Western industry officials are still skeptical that Chinese equipment can compete with their offerings in terms of technical sophistication. But in the missile domain, the country is starting to gain traction, experts concede.

Whereas China poses a potential threat as an arms exporter to rival manufacturers, it has enormous potential as a buyer if the current arms embargo is lifted.

One European industry official speculates that with European coffers *shrinking and companies looking increasingly to exports to sustain their revenues and workforces, pressure will mount to back off from the blanket ban on weapon exports.

Companies’ eagerness to court China was underscored recently by Italy’s Finmeccanica. After the U.S. government issued a waiver to allow Lockheed Martin C-130s to land in China to help in combating potential oil spills, CEO Pier Francesco Guarguaglini signaled he would want to sell C-27Js to Beijing if the U.S. eased its arms export ban.

The move drew a quick response. Italian officials were called to the Pentagon to hear U.S. misgivings about a C-27J sale. (In the past, China was a strong market for Italy, with deals including defense electronics and torpedoes.)

Companies also have found other workarounds, such as selling advanced helicopters as commercial equipment. For example, Eurocopter and Avic are co-developing the EC175 (called the Z-15 in China).

Chinese Role Evolves In Defense Exports | AVIATION WEEK
 
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China's AVIC agrees second US acquisition

15-Dec-2010 JDIN

A subsidiary of the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) has acquired aero engine component manufacturer Continental Motors from Teledyne Technologies for USD186 million
 
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Shenyang Aircraft Corporation's WS-10A engines are already in mass production

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Could the WS-10A engine power the J-10, J-11B, and J-15 aircraft? The answer is "yes" if two conditions are met. Firstly, Chinese production of WS-10A engines must be sufficient to meet the demand (including production of parts for maintenance and replacement engines at the end of the expected lifetime) for all three aircraft.

Secondly, I don't know if WS-10A engines are interchangeable with AL-31F engines. If they are not readily interchangeable without modifying the fuselage then the current fighters with AL-31F engines will most likely stay with AL-31F replacement engines.

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J-10B Vigorous Dragon flying with WS-10A engines

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J-11B flying with WS-10A engines

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J-15 Flying Shark with WS-10A engines

To conclude the discussion on the use of domestic WS-10A engines on the J-10, J-11B, and J-15, there is a new photograph of a J-11BS equipped with WS-10A engines.

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"A [J-11BS] tandem twin-seat combat-capable training aircraft for J-11B pilots."

[Note: Thank you to SiegeCrossbow for the J-11BS picture.]

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WS-10A engine for J-10B Vigorous Dragon fighter in mass production

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WS-10A engine (with gearbox at the bottom) is designed to power the J-10B Vigorous Dragon fighter. This version of the WS-10A turbofan engine is said to have 13.2 ton maximum thrust. There are several wrapped engines near the floor.

[Note: Thank you to Pinko for the post.]

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J-10A and J-10B Vigorous Dragon evolution

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The top photo is a J-10A with AL-31F engine. The second and third photos show a J-10B with DSI intake and AL-31F engine. The fourth photo is a J-10B with China's domestic WS-10A engine.

This sequence of pictures illustrates the evolution of the J-10 family from a J-10A (with AL-31F engine) into a J-10B with advanced DSI technology and WS-10A engine.

In the sequence of photographs, it is easy to distinguish between the AL-31F and WS-10A engines. The "flexible petals" on the WS-10A are a lot shorter than on the AL-31F.

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Comparison of Chinese WS-10A (top) and Russian AL-31F (bottom) jet engines.

[Note: Thank you to HouShanghai for the first picture and Maya for the engine comparison picture.]
 
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A Chinese WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 180 KiloNewtons of thrust

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China's WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 18 tons of thrust.

For comparison, each of the Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engines that power the F-22 produces only 156 KiloNewtons of thrust. However, the F-22 is a smaller and lighter plane than the J-20.

WS15

"WS15 turbofan

The core engine for the WS-15 engine was first tested in April 2005. The demonstrator was developed successfully and the prototype WS-15 was running smoothly. China is undoubtedly far behind Russian engine technology. Nonetheless, China has produced the WS-9 engine for the JH-7, the WS-10A engine for J-10, and the WS-15 for the new J-20 fourth generation stealth fighter. The WS-9 and WS-10A were both usable, and without the WS-10A China would not have negotiated J-10 orders with PAF."

WS-15

"WS-15

Program Status: Under Development
IOC: 2020
Origin: China

Description: The WS-15 is a Chinese advanced turbofan intended to power fifth generation fighter aircraft. The WS-15 thrust may exceed 18,000 kg and is intended to power the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) J-20 twin-engine stealth aircraft and the J-12 single engine stealth fighter.

Applications:

Strike & Fighter Aircraft"

Reference for Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engine performance: Pratt & Whitney F119

[Note: Thank you to Greyboy2 for the picture.]

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Chinese WS-10A turbofan engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust

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China's WS-10A engine (with gearbox at the bottom) is designed to power the J-10B Vigorous Dragon fighter. This version of the WS-10A turbofan engine is said to have 13.2 ton maximum thrust. There are several wrapped engines near the floor.

To put things in perspective, China's WS-10A engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust. The in-limbo Indian Kaveri engine can only manage 82 KiloNewtons.

The Chinese WS-10G engine, which is currently undergoing reliability tests, can produce 155 KiloNewtons. It's the equivalent of two Kaveri engines.

Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Variants

WS-10 - original design producing a thrust of 126 kilonewtons (28,000 lbf)
WS-10A - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10B - upgraded thrust-vectored variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10G - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 155 kilonewtons (35,000 lbf) with Thrust Vectoring and stealthy nozzles that have jagged edges and tiles"

[Note: Thank you to Pinko for the picture and caption for the WS-10A engine.]
 
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I have compiled a list of the world's turbofan aircraft engines to allow us to assess the performance of China's WS-10A, WS-10G, and WS-15 turbofan engines.

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World Turbofan Aircraft Engines

19 tons (or 190 KiloNewtons) of wet thrust (which means with afterburner)

19.1 tons (for F-35/JSF) - Pratt & Whitney F135 (in service 2009 - dates are approximate).
Important note: F135 has a high bypass ratio and F-35 cannot supercruise.

18 tons of wet thrust

18 tons (for J-20) - China's WS-15 ("Initial Operational Capability"/IOC 2020. Successful prototype operation in 2005). WS-15 has a low bypass ratio and J-20 can supercruise.

15 tons of wet thrust

15.6 tons (for F-22) - Pratt & Whitney F119 (IOC 2004). F119 has a low bypass ratio and F-22 can supercruise.

15.5 tons - China's WS-10G (Global Security believes it was installed on J-20 prototype in 2011)

14 tons of wet thrust

14.5 tons (for T-50/Pak-Fa) - AL-41F (in service 2010)

13 tons of wet thrust

13.2 tons (for J-10, J-11, and J-15) - China's WS-10A (in service 2009)

13.2 tons (for Russian Su-30) - AL-31FM1 (in service 2007)

12 tons of wet thrust

12.5 tons (for J-10A) - AL-31FN (in service 2002)

8 tons of wet thrust

8.9 tons (for Eurofighter Typhoon) - Eurojet EJ200 (in service 1991)

7 tons of wet thrust

7.5 tons (for French Rafale) - Snecma M88-2 (in service 1996)

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References:

F135 (US): Pratt & Whitney F135 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WS-15 (China): WS15

WS-15

F119 (US): F119-PW-100

Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WS-10G (China): J-15 (Jianjiji-15 Fighter aircraft 15) / F-15

Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AL-41F (Russia): Sukhoi Flankers - The Shifting Balance of Regional Air Power

Saturn AL-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

WS-10A (China): Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AL-31FM1 (Russia): Saturn AL-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

AL-31FN (Russia): Saturn AL-31 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

EJ200 (European consortium): Eurojet EJ200 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

M88-2 (France): Snecma M88

Snecma M88 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Citation for high bypass turbofans and subsonic speed from Global Security.

Military Aviation Engines

"High bypass turbofans, meaning bypass ratios in the range of 5 to 9, power virtually all transports designed to cruise at high subsonic speeds. High bypass ratio engines provide increased takeoff thrust, low environmental noise, and low specific fuel consumption. The development of the first high bypass ratio turbofans, the TF39 for the C-5A and the JT9D for the Boeing 747, required nearly doubling the cycle pressure ratio from the 12:1 of the JT3/J79 series of jets, and increasing the turbine inlet temperature.

The newest high bypass turbofans have cycle pressure ratios greater than 40:1 and have been made possible by advancements in high temperature materials and cooling technology. In a general sense, increases in hot section materials capability and turbine cooling techniques have paced the development of high pressure ratio engines. Today, turbofans range in size from small missile engines by Teledyne and Williams International, to behemoths in the 100,000 pound thrust class for large transports."

Secondary citation on high bypass ratio turbofan engine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overall_pressure_ratio#Examples

"Military engines are often forced to work under conditions that maximize the heating load. For instance, the General Dynamics F-111 was required to operate at speeds of Mach 1.1 at sea level. As a side-effect of these wide operating conditions, and generally older technology in most cases, military engines typically have lower overall pressure ratios. The Pratt & Whitney TF30 used on the F-111 had a pressure ratio of about 20:1, while newer engines like the General Electric F110 and Pratt & Whitney F135 have improved this to about 30:1.

An additional issue is weight: a higher compression ratio implies a heavier engine, which in turn costs fuel to carry around. Thus, for a particular construction technology and set of flight plans an optimal overall pressure ratio can be determined."

[Note: Thank you to ChineseTiger1986 for highlighting the issue of high bypass ratio for non-supercruising F-35 and low bypass ratio for supercruising F-22 and J-20.]
 
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A Chinese WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 180 KiloNewtons of thrust

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China's WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 18 tons of thrust.

For comparison, each of the Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engines that power the F-22 produces only 156 KiloNewtons of thrust. However, the F-22 is a smaller and lighter plane than the J-20.

WS15

"WS15 turbofan

The core engine for the WS-15 engine was first tested in April 2005. The demonstrator was developed successfully and the prototype WS-15 was running smoothly. China is undoubtedly far behind Russian engine technology. Nonetheless, China has produced the WS-9 engine for the JH-7, the WS-10A engine for J-10, and the WS-15 for the new J-20 fourth generation stealth fighter. The WS-9 and WS-10A were both usable, and without the WS-10A China would not have negotiated J-10 orders with PAF."

WS-15

"WS-15

Program Status: Under Development
IOC: 2020
Origin: China

Description: The WS-15 is a Chinese advanced turbofan intended to power fifth generation fighter aircraft. The WS-15 thrust may exceed 18,000 kg and is intended to power the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) J-20 twin-engine stealth aircraft and the J-12 single engine stealth fighter.

Applications:

Strike & Fighter Aircraft"

Reference for Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engine performance: Pratt & Whitney F119

[Note: Thank you to Greyboy2 for the picture.]

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Chinese WS-10A turbofan engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust

Vf425.jpg

China's WS-10A engine (with gearbox at the bottom) is designed to power the J-10B Vigorous Dragon fighter. This version of the WS-10A turbofan engine is said to have 13.2 ton maximum thrust. There are several wrapped engines near the floor.

To put things in perspective, China's WS-10A engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust. The in-limbo Indian Kaveri engine can only manage 82 KiloNewtons.

The Chinese WS-10G engine, which is currently undergoing reliability tests, can produce 155 KiloNewtons. It's the equivalent of two Kaveri engines.

Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Variants

WS-10 - original design producing a thrust of 126 kilonewtons (28,000 lbf)
WS-10A - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10B - upgraded thrust-vectored variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10G - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 155 kilonewtons (35,000 lbf) with Thrust Vectoring and stealthy nozzles that have jagged edges and tiles"

[Note: Thank you to Pinko for the picture and caption for the WS-10A engine.]

Hoping to see WS-10B in PAF FC-20Ps. INSHA ALLAH.
 
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A Chinese WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 180 KiloNewtons of thrust

MI7Cf.jpg

China's WS-15 turbofan engine for J-20 Mighty Dragon produces 18 tons of thrust.

For comparison, each of the Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engines that power the F-22 produces only 156 KiloNewtons of thrust. However, the F-22 is a smaller and lighter plane than the J-20.

WS15

"WS15 turbofan

The core engine for the WS-15 engine was first tested in April 2005. The demonstrator was developed successfully and the prototype WS-15 was running smoothly. China is undoubtedly far behind Russian engine technology. Nonetheless, China has produced the WS-9 engine for the JH-7, the WS-10A engine for J-10, and the WS-15 for the new J-20 fourth generation stealth fighter. The WS-9 and WS-10A were both usable, and without the WS-10A China would not have negotiated J-10 orders with PAF."

WS-15

"WS-15

Program Status: Under Development
IOC: 2020
Origin: China

Description: The WS-15 is a Chinese advanced turbofan intended to power fifth generation fighter aircraft. The WS-15 thrust may exceed 18,000 kg and is intended to power the People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) J-20 twin-engine stealth aircraft and the J-12 single engine stealth fighter.

Applications:

Strike & Fighter Aircraft"

Reference for Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 engine performance: Pratt & Whitney F119

[Note: Thank you to Greyboy2 for the picture.]

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Chinese WS-10A turbofan engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust

Vf425.jpg

China's WS-10A engine (with gearbox at the bottom) is designed to power the J-10B Vigorous Dragon fighter. This version of the WS-10A turbofan engine is said to have 13.2 ton maximum thrust. There are several wrapped engines near the floor.

To put things in perspective, China's WS-10A engine produces 132 KiloNewtons of thrust. The in-limbo Indian Kaveri engine can only manage 82 KiloNewtons.

The Chinese WS-10G engine, which is currently undergoing reliability tests, can produce 155 KiloNewtons. It's the equivalent of two Kaveri engines.

Shenyang WS-10 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Variants

WS-10 - original design producing a thrust of 126 kilonewtons (28,000 lbf)
WS-10A - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10B - upgraded thrust-vectored variant producing a thrust of 132 kilonewtons (30,000 lbf)
WS-10G - upgraded variant producing a thrust of 155 kilonewtons (35,000 lbf) with Thrust Vectoring and stealthy nozzles that have jagged edges and tiles"

[Note: Thank you to Pinko for the picture and caption for the WS-10A engine.]

How do you know the pic is of the WS-15?
 
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The making of China's turbofan engines:

军事科技20100529(4/4) 动力革命(4) - 解密中国大推力加力式涡扇发动机


Chief designer Zhang Enhe 张恩和 explaining @ 1:50 in the following vid:
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In fact, I don't know where should the article post!! The wind tunnel is basic technology, Plane, Missile, Space Craft and many other vehicle need tunnel to test and verify their aerodynamic shape. China have complete and advanced wind tunnel system, we don't need go out to pay money for using foreign wind tunnel and spend much time to queue up for it, and the foreign will not let you catch their best wind tunnel.
But, the last part of article should be reflected by us.
Our country into a 9 times the speed of sound the world’s most advanced wind tunnel performance
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Figure: the United States in the wind tunnel test X-51A hypersonic aircraft engine, the highest wind speed is 7.5 times the speed of sound.
(Can't find pic of china, use the similar pic of usa)

the world’s longest next to the shock tunnel, a special organizational life

into the Qian engineering science experiment base – with the party branch of the National Natural Science Foundation of Mathematics Division of Physical Sciences

the reporter Luo Hui

into the grass-roots party branches reporter Notes

One day in the month of April, the former director of the National Natural Science Foundation of China, mathematical and physical science Ministry of the party branch oldest party member Chen Jiaer early in the Gathering Place. 78-year-old, he said he was looking forward on this branch of activity.

from the collection time of 10 minutes, the youngest branch of the party members Zhangpan Feng hurried off the computer. His office table, on the ground are tall pile up this year’s Science Foundation project application. These days is the busiest time of their year, the Mathematics Division of Physical Sciences has more than 10,000 applications need to handle.

this day, the destination of the branch of the 19 party members and three other colleagues is the scientific and experimental base of the Chinese Academy of Mechanics, Qian works. Executive Deputy Director of the Mathematics Division of Physical Sciences, Party branch secretary of drain Pei Wen said this trip is a trip on a single charge. The busiest of the most tired of the fighting capacity of the team to strengthen the. To research first-line sentiment Qian spirit, to understand the needs of researchers, the back can be more targeted work./P>

1 hour after Yanqi Economic Development Zone, Huairou District, a long strip of park Avenue, a gray building, Chen Jiaer and an old old hands are clasped. The 84-year-old man is your worked in the mechanics of the first founding director Mr. Qian Xuesen around the Chinese Academy of Sciences Yu Hongru Mr.. Side lying steel body, it is according to Mr. Yu detonation driven approach, the further development of a series of shock tunnel innovative technology, the successful development of the international’s first reusable now superb sound velocity flight conditions very large shock tunnel, the overall performance level international leader. Mechanics, Chinese Academy of Sciences of the shock tunnel series, it was named “JF12 complex currently hypersonic flight conditions of the shock tunnel.

the root half-human, tall, metal texture, of coarse, fine, every period of change a color long tube, in the eyes of international peers is a “Hyper-Dragon” (super dragon) . Shock tunnel of the world’s longest to date, and often they visit to Beijing “attractions”, some people read the request: “Can you take a look at.”

prelude: wind tunnel “landscape”

spring afternoon sun from the wind tunnel where air and space laboratory west side of the door shone, to cast a simple reinforced steel frame halo. Mr. Yu’s “successor”, the director of the Institute of Mechanics, high temperature gas dynamics State Key Laboratory of Jiang Zonglin Fellow, accompanied by commentary, we walked and Mechanics of the party members exchange to explore. The reporter later found 265 meters long way, actually half an hour away.

wind tunnel exactly what exotic “landscape”? The reporter eventually did not use the eyes to understand, but how many understand.

This is Mr. Yu of two generations of scientists set 50 years of accumulation, inventive, with distinct characteristics of major equipment, the new works is different from any existing wind tunnel in the world.

in order to make it clear that it highlights, the need to explain first some background:

First, the wind tunnel on behalf of a national level of basic research in the aerospace, it is the aircraft “cradle” of an aircraft engine, aerodynamic layout, not in the wind tunnel blowing several thousand times, dare not to heaven. Mr. Yu is their wind tunnel is by far the world’s most advanced performance hypersonic aerodynamic test device.

Second, a velocity, called the “Mach (Ma) the number of quantifiers is essential. Mach 1 is the Mach (speed of sound), weather conditions, about 340 m/sec. General civil aircraft speed subsonic Ma 0.8 below. Mr. Yu is their wind tunnel to reproduce in the 25-40 km altitude above the Ma5.0 hypersonic flight conditions.

the major national research and equipment development project team responsible person Jiangzong Lin has always taken great pains to for Reporters science. JF12 wind tunnel of 265 meters ‘length’ so that it can provide a longer experimental time, the experimental hypersonic engines need time requires at least 60-70 milliseconds, we have to be 100 ms, the foreign wind tunnel about up to 2.5 m for 30 ms. the nozzle diameter, chamber diameter of 3.5 meters, significantly better than similar foreign wind tunnel. the JF12 wind tunnel in the ‘wind’, the highest speed up to Ma, the temperature up to 3000 degrees Celsius. Ma 9 means that the flight time from Beijing to New York can be reduced from the current 14 hours to two hours. “

hypersonic scramjet aircraft R & D is an international problem. Ma, 9, for aircraft engine ignition, like lit the tornado a match has been described, but also to ensure that it continued to burn. Jiangzong Lin, JF12 wind tunnel can reproduce the “state of the tornado. This created the conditions for our engine research and development.

JF12 wind tunnel how much was spent? Fan Jing, director of the Institute of Mechanics, said: “46 million yuan.”
drain Pei Wen emotion: “There is no innovative ideas, 4 billion might not engage in out.” It is understood that the JF12 wind tunnel is not only built when inexpensive, operating costs are much lower than foreign wind tunnel.


drain Pei Wen said, “Landscapes” Mr. Qian Xuesen do not believe foreigners, be bold and innovative spirit of the reality embodied. This influence of the spirit of the old group of people, Mr. Yu and other scientists adhering to the spirit of Mr. Qian, brought out Jiangzong Lin researcher and a group of people. Today, this spirit is constantly passing.

the gave lectures: Mr. Qian Xuesen old age what worries

Qian engineering science experiment base yard is now a big construction site, superb laboratory, ultra burning laboratory, Combustion Laboratory, still under construction in the plasma laboratories green Tarpaulins block the line of sight. Ear or sounded the noise of the saws creak, but these did not affect people’s mood.

In addition to wind tunnel, we are also witnessing a high-speed train model in an instant to be accelerated to more than 200 km, and then a smooth stop.

Subsequently, gave lectures in the wind tunnel next to the Conference Room. Speaker Yu Hongru.

slide is the old man to do, simple dark blue template, read the headline: understand the problems the Qian director of the old age worries. His seat behind the wall, the words “realistic demand” four characters.

Yu Hongru eyes, Qian will always be the director of the Institute of Mechanics. Because the formation of mechanical Qian to do after returning to the first issue. Built by the beginning of 1956, Qian put forward “God, into the earth, the sea,” the blueprint, which is still the mechanics of today’s development direction.

“we all know now ‘Qian of the question’, that his later concerns, but I think everyone’s understanding is not comprehensive. In fact, his real concern from both

Yu Hongru said: “Another concern is that of money director: ‘China’s science and technology have important innovation’?” he said, Qian 1995 Wang Shouyun six comrades letter has been mentioned in the 1960s, prior to the “quark” theory put forward the theory of “stratum”, synthesized the first artificial insulin, successful implementation of a hydrogen bomb detonated unique technology, but today? China’s scientific and technical personnel important innovation? I think that foreigners currently too superstitious, too timid, if not innovation, we will become incompetent! “read Qian letter in these words, the tone of dignified Yu Hongru.

He believes that Qian these concerns have not been widely reported.

Yu Hongru at the same time pointed out, “Qian of the question,” is mentioned, people usually think, Qian said that the cultivation of outstanding talent. “It’s not wrong, but what he said is not an ordinary personnel training, but the cultivation of technological innovation.”

In his view, the core of these two concerns are all about innovation.


So, what is innovation? Yu Hongru said, “innovation” can be understood as “create”, that is, the first things that unprecedented; also be understood as “innovation”, namely, the progressive improvement. According to his understanding, Qian within the meaning of “innovation” is to create rather than innovation. He quoted Qian: “is not a true innovation, not the courage to others not studied the scientific frontier, and not someone else already said what we know, did not say something, we do not know

Yu Hongru how to deal with the “creation” and “innovation”, related to our ability to obtain real innovation. In his view, as opposed to “create” and “innovation” become easier, the risk is small, easy to manage, and widely welcomed by the front-line researchers and management staff. However, if the same activities “create” method of management, will make it difficult situation. “Innovation is very important, most people do innovation, however, can not let innovation instead of to create, nor does it eliminated to create the innovation.”

his own explanation: he had a new research ideas to apply for research funding, but a look at the project application form, found: “simply can not fill – the exploratory work hangs in the balance, how can I be dead what specific methods to accomplish each research stage how much money?” Later, the Chinese Academy of Sciences has decided to finance his 2 million yuan, only to sign an agreement, “The problem is, I am OK, young people you?”

“I have told you Fund Committee said that this matter is to you good research, how can we better support the creation of research management departments can not use the tube and innovative ways to pipe to create. “Yu Hongru outspoken.


sentiment: the hard work is more conducive to “create” rather than just “innovation” of the soil

the PPT can not give me a copy of a? Yu Hongru speaking party class “classroom” has been very quiet. To a discussion session, a warm atmosphere. This request is Chen Jiaer, another of his identity: the former president of Peking University. “Mr. Yu’s speech, thought-provoking and I want to Peking University’s new team learn from Beijing University to be unique, to develop technological innovation, one thousand school at university side of the situation to change.”

Chen Jiaer said, why will be the 1000 school side of the root causes of evaluation mechanisms. Now the university rankings, most of the emphasis on the apparent number of international search papers (SCI or EI) and journal impact factors (IF), quantitative indicators. In fact, our total amount of SCI, EI has been ranked in the world, but the actual innovation capability compared with the international advanced level there is still a wide gap. “Doctoral the two articles can not graduate, and made them what to send the article to what to do, became foreign academics look down on the Paper Machine (Article machine) this is greatly harmful.” The same side Qian The 78-year-old had a bit agitated.

He believes that in the evaluation of researchers or research units, should see their innovative ideas there, how to drive the development of related disciplines, what to promote to meet the needs of the community; to see their research culture the number of young people; depends on how with the cooperation of the relevant units, what contribution to the development of cooperative units.
then Chen Jiaer

drain Pei Wen as saying: “To improve the ability to create, I think it needs the efforts of three indispensable: one is the scientists themselves how to do it; a how support of the management department; third evaluation system how to keep pace. “

drain Pei Wen said, adhering to the Science Foundation is relying on experts, promoting democracy, merit-based support, a fair and reasonable” principle. Take into account the process of application for the project, some new ideas is not easy to be the judges to accept the Fund Committee has also established a non-consensus items support more exploratory, very risky and innovative research to obtain a certain effect . For example, the researcher at the Purple Mountain Observatory, Chinese Academy of Sciences often into the start of the project review does not pass, given some support by the Fund Committee in accordance with the non-consensus items, then get better and better, to find possible evidence of dark matter particles annihilate also the 2008 World Year of Physics major field of study progress.

Ji Pei-wen says that in addition to funding for the project, the Science Foundation is also attached great importance to the funding. Such as for Creative Research Groups Science Foundation is the selection of the best-funded team of the common goal of innovation research directions and issues decided by the scientists themselves, so that they can have a relaxed environment, painstaking research.

Chinese Academy of Mechanics, director of Fan Jing chimed in, do play a good role in innovative research groups to encourage innovation and personnel training. The JF12 complex is now hypersonic flight conditions of shock wind tunnel project has gone through ups and downs in difficult times, the funding of innovative research groups “to deepen the study and validation of critical thinking played a positive role.

drain Pei Wen concluded that, on paper come says, must know this practice is essential. “Today, the world’s longest next to the shock tunnel, we had a special organizational life, learned a lot. First, we learned the spirit of Mr. Qian, Mr. Yu, as well as the mechanics of the new generation of scientists in the spirit of innovation; second received their tasks, how to better support innovation, and creativity to improve the evaluation system; is to increase our sense of responsibility and mission in the future to better support innovation, personnel training, further perfect the system of Chinese characteristics. Science Foundation; further clarify the Communists of the new period of work in the field of science and technology management, better play the direction and content of the progressiveness of Party members and the pioneering role. “
 
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Is that much fuel efficient , as american engines are ..??

It should be close. After all, bypass ratios are not a secret. Engines with a high-bypass ratio (HBR) are more fuel efficient. However, it's strange that you're concerned about efficiency. Military jets are about combat and survivability. Fuel efficiency is a secondary concern.

I think the real issues are reliability and MTBO (mean time between overhauls). American engines have higher MTBOs, because of more advanced and longer-lasting materials. The MTBO gap should close over time.
 
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China has the largest number of wind tunnels in Asia
China has the largest number of wind tunnels in Asia | China's Great Science and Technology
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According to resources, China now totally has 39 wind Tunnels, including 14 subsonic wind tunnels, 16 supersonic wind tunnels, 5 Hypersonic and 4 unknown purpose wind tunnels. An this the largest number in Asian.

CARDC is China’s biggest aerodynamic research, test and development organization with the most powerful comprehensive capabilities. And it is the only aerodynamic research and test community in China with a complete set of facilities well-matched both in sizes of small-, medium-and large-scale, and in speed ranges of low-and high-speed to hypervelocity, and with completely-equipped three research means of wind tunnel testing, numerical simulation and model free flight testing, as well as with wide research coverage of aerodynamics, aerothermodynamics, aero-physics and aero-optics. Since its foundation, CARDC has fulfilled a great deal of research, test and computational tasks concerning aeronautical and astronautical vehicles, automobiles, high speed trains, wind engineering and so on, and has won more than one thousand awards for science and technology of state and ministry levels, thus having made great contributions to the development of aerodynamics, aerospace undertaking and national economy.
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CARDC consists of Low Speed Aerodynamics Institute (LSAI), High Speed Aerodynamics Institute (HSAI), Hypervelocity Aerodynamics Institute (HAI), Computational Aerodynamics Institute (CAI), Facility Design & Instrumentation Institute (FDII) and Special Equipment Manufacturer. CARDC is equipped with more than 50 aerodynamic and aerothermodynamic test facilities and other related special test facilities with the speed regime covering low speed through high speed to hypervelocity, among which are mainly 8m×6m/16m×12m low speed wind tunnel, 4m×3m low speed wind tunnel, Φ3.2m subsonic wind tunnel, Φ5m vertical wind tunnel, 2.4m×2.4m transonic wind tunnel, 1.2m×1.2m transonic and supersonic wind tunnel, Φ0.5m hypersonic wind tunnel, Φ2m shockwave wind tunnel, Φ1m hypersonic wind tunnel, Φ0.3m hypersonic low density wind tunnel and 200m free flight ballistic range, etc.

In 2000, asia’s largest trans-sonic wind tunnel is completed in Chengdu, the capital city of Sichuan Province in southwest China.
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The trans-sonic wind tunnel is an indispensable testing infrastructure for complex spacecrafts. Only several developed countries in the world have built such tunnels, according to some Chinese experts engaged in the project.

The tunnel is 66 meters long and 33 meters wide. It was designed and built independently by Chinese experts and its cost was only one sixth of the same type of wind tunnel overseas. According to Chinese astronautic experts, major function specifications of the tunnel are of international standards.
 
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http://eng.chinamil.com.cn/news-channels/china-military-news/2012-09/05/content_5016512.htm

China’s aerodynamic testing and research capabilities gain new progress

The high-power arc wind tunnel, large-size supersonic wind tunnel and two-teraflop computer system newly completed by the China Aerodynamics Research and Development Center (CARDC) were put into use on September 3, 2012, marking that China’s aerodynamic testing and research capabilities have achieved new progress.

  The CARDC is mainly responsible for carrying out aerodynamic testing and research tasks for the model selection and standardization of various aeronautical and astronautical vehicles of China. It is the only aerodynamic testing and research organization in China with a complete set of facilities well-matched in small, medium and large sizes and with all three research means of wind tunnel testing, numerical calculation and model flight testing.

  With the development of China’s aviation and aerospace industries, the center has been vigorously strengthening the construction of its test equipment and test technology system in recent years. The two wind tunnels and one computer system newly built and commissioned this time will effectively expand China’s wind tunnel testing capability and numerical simulation capability, so as to provide strong technical support for the development of aeronautical and astronautical vehicles.

New wind tunnels, supercomputer system put into use - People's Daily Online
New wind tunnels, supercomputer system put into use
Two newly built wind tunnels and a supercomputer system were put into use in Mianyang, southwestern China's Sichuan Province, on Sept. 3. The two wind tunnels are mainly used for heat-resistance testing and aerodynamic testing of high-speed aircraft. And the 200 trillion-times super computer is mainly used for the numerical simulation of the aircraft. (CNS Photo)
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