Chinese daily fears India may resume nuclear tests

[BigTree.CN]

Where is Chinese Dragon ?

Did CD do anything wrong?

 

[Obambam]

Oh man I would like to see what the chinese on PDF have to say about their media. And they call Indian media overhyped

I think it is 'brilliant'

 

[gambit]

No chance.

India is not ready to lose its credibility in the international comity for all times to come.

Kiteflying at best and aimed to do a bit of scaremongering and set the cat amongst the pigeon in the SE Asian countries given that the US is trying to cobble up a loose coalition amongst Asian countries and Australia.

What will extra scientific data India will gain by another blast?

I believe the same data can be obtained by simulations. But then I would not know for sure being no nuclear scientist.

Not exactly. We can perform real physical tests on every single components of a nuclear warhead up to the point where we actually detonate the explosives that compress the fissionable material that will create an uncontrolled chain reaction. Then we switch to simulations and even today no one is %100 certain that the warhead will enter that uncontrolled chain reaction. An electricity generating nuclear reaction is controlled because the concentration of the fissionable material is not high enough...

Introduction to Nuclear Power

Enrichment. The concentration of the fissionable isotope, U-235 (0.71 percent in natural uranium) is less than that required to sustain a nuclear chain reaction in light water reactor cores. Natural UF6 thus must be "enriched" in the fissionable isotope for it to be used as nuclear fuel. Light-water reactor fuel normally is enriched up to about 4 percent U-235. However, different levels of enrichment for a particular nuclear fuel application may be specified. The UF6 gas that remains has less than normal concentrations of U-235 in it and is therefore called “the enrichment tails”, “depleted uranium”, or simply “DU”.

The higher the concentration the smaller the amount of fissionable material required to produce a chain reaction of either type. Nuclear powered ships have over %90 concentration or 'enrichment' of fissionable materials. They need such high concentration because of space limitation. So essentially, a nuclear powered aircraft carrier or submarine is very much a nuclear bomb-in-waiting. On land we have no such limitations so there is no need to go higher than %20, above that and the international community begins to get nervous and will question your motives.

 

[Aramsogo]

This op-ed isn't even aimed at India. It's really directed at the US.
It's saying don't give the greenlight for more tests or help them with their design or else. The 'or else' is in the first paragraph, Iran and NK.

 

[Splurgenxs]

T An electricity generating nuclear reaction is controlled because the concentration of the fissionable material is not high enough...

Not entirely ...a nuclear fissile material of high enrichment can also be used in a controlled reactor ..the number of bombarding particles(i.e Neutrons) are limited by the CC/R (control core or rod) to maintain a controllable level of collisions ad number of particle allowed to collide .
Its is preferable to use high enriched isotopes for reaction as they produce energy more efficiently with lesses fuel.The fact remains that a balance has being improvise as low fissionable material is less likely to become bombs.

Tests are only the final phase of solidifying ones gains as proof..all processes can always be simulated.

 

[gambit]

Not entirely ...a nuclear fissile material of high enrichment can also be used in a controlled reactor ..the number of bombarding particles(i.e Neutrons) are limited by the CC/R (control core or rod) to maintain a controllable level of collisions ad number of particle allowed to collide .
Its is preferable to use high enriched isotopes for reaction as they produce energy more efficiently with lesses fuel.The fact remains that a balance has being improvise as low fissionable material is less likely to become bombs.

Tests are only the final phase of solidifying ones gains as proof..all processes can always be simulated.

A nuclear detonation is an uncontrolled chain reaction. To date, it is true that we have highly refined manufacturing processes and assembly of components of a nuclear warhead that will ensure predictable and consistent test results possibly up to the simulated detonation itself, but that is only after we know the rate of the controlled chain reaction and extrapolate from there. Naturally, the higher the enrichment level that we use to achieve a controlled chain reaction, the more accurate that extrapolation will be towards the uncontrolled chain reaction.

 

[Rig Vedic]

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[Varad]

India should not sign CTBT but should definitely not conduct such tests as this will highly damage its non proliferation stand.

 

[JingDong]

India conducted its first nuclear test in 1974 — and again in 1998.
‘The reason why India refused to sign the NPT (Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty) is that it disagreed with the fact that only five large countries of the world use the NPT to monopolize the right for possessing nuclear arms,’ it said.

Chinese daily fears India may resume nuclear tests

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I sometimes wonder ..... Hypothetically, if China had conducted it's first atomic test after 1970, would it have signed the NPT?

And, if not, what reason it would have given for not signing it, say:

1. China does not adhere to treaties with a "western", "imperialist" mindset.

or

2. It has peaceful intentions, but doesn't want a possible nuclear blackmail by USA or Russia (USSR).


Which of these two reasons would have been more credible?

And further, why China believes the same thinking will not apply to a country like India?
Is it because China doesn't consider it among the only five large countries of the world .

Lastly, if India had conducted it's atomic test before 1970, would it still have refused to sign the NPT .... considering that the NPT would still be discriminatory to all nations other than the only six large countries of the world ?​

 

[Urbanized Greyhound]

I sometimes wonder ..... Hypothetically, if China had conducted it's first atomic test after 1970, would it have signed the NPT?

And, if not, what reason it would have given for not signing it, say:

1. China does not adhere to treaties with a "western", "imperialist" mindset.

or

2. It has peaceful intentions, but doesn't want a possible nuclear blackmail by USA or Russia (USSR).


Which of these two reasons would have been more credible?

And further, why China believes the same thinking will not apply to a country like India?
Is it because China doesn't consider it among the only five large countries of the world .

Lastly, if India had conducted it's atomic test before 1970, would it still have refused to sign the NPT .... considering that the NPT would still be discriminatory to all nations other than the only six large countries of the world ?

Every nation will look out for their own interests first , so China would never accept such an arrangement and India would do all in her power to sign the NPT as a nuclear power and be among the privileged . Simple geopolitics , I believe ...

 

[Break the Silence]

Chinese daily fears India may resume nuclear tests

Imho, China never scared of any country or the weapon testings... The only and biggest fear of PRC is VFD BOMB.

 

[pmukherjee]

Development of our delivery systems is reaching a level of maturity wherein the designs of most short and medium range missiles will soon be frozen to commence mass production. Certain missiles are already being mass produced. With the delivery systems soon to be in place (including the submarine based K-15 and K-4s), validating the warheads to go with these makes sense. Also, we are developing the ICBMs. Needless to say that ICBMs will be used with MIRVs(which are also under development). That brings us to the point of the validity of our TN warhead design. ICBMs with out TN warheads make no sense. I do not know of any ICBM in the world that does not use TN warheads. Just how reliable is our H bomb? We need to know for sure. Computer simulation can not replace actual testing, let us not fool ourselves. International goodwill means nothing if we do not have a credible nuclear deterrent and we can not secure our nation against external threats.
I think a few tests are in order now.

 

[applesauce]

I sometimes wonder ..... Hypothetically, if China had conducted it's first atomic test after 1970, would it have signed the NPT?

And, if not, what reason it would have given for not signing it, say:

1. China does not adhere to treaties with a "western", "imperialist" mindset.

or

2. It has peaceful intentions, but doesn't want a possible nuclear blackmail by USA or Russia (USSR).


Which of these two reasons would have been more credible?

And further, why China believes the same thinking will not apply to a country like India?
Is it because China doesn't consider it among the only five large countries of the world .

Lastly, if India had conducted it's atomic test before 1970, would it still have refused to sign the NPT .... considering that the NPT would still be discriminatory to all nations other than the only six large countries of the world ?

it would still have sign if and only if it would still be a nuclear arms state, given the fact that not 20 years before 1970 china was threaten with nuclear destruction by both superpowers, and in 1970 china was still against both super powers.

reasons are easily given see above for a very simple one of being threatened openly by 2 superpowers, thus its for defense only especially given that china has the NFU policy in place

the thinking does not apply to india because essentially India was not threaten with nuclear destruction by anyone, rather it brought nukes to SE Asia prompting Pakistan to develop its own nukes

if india had its test before 1970 the results would be the same, it would depend if india is recognized as a nuclear weapons state, if the world granted india that status tomorrow it would probably sign the NPT soon

 

[Tumba]

chinese getting FRUSTRATED .. seeing India grow faster... haha ,,,

 

[Abhishek_]

^damn kids. china has bigger fish to fry, India is nothing more than a nuisance