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Capesize bulk carrier OCEAN ARTEMIS collided with Japanese Navy SORYU-class submarine at 1058 Tokyo time Feb 8 some 30 nm south of Kochi Prefecture coast, Shikoku Island, Japan, Pacific. Bulk carrier is en route from Qingdao China to Mizushima Japan, submarine was heading to drills area off Cape Ashizuri in Kochi Prefecture. Understood submarine either surfaced or was surfacing, prior to collision. Bulk carrier didn’t suffer any damages except maybe some scratches, submarine suffered damaged bridge antennas and diving planes, several crew were slightly injured. Bulk carrier stopped after collision, then resumed moving, but at a reduce speed of some 4 knots, as of 1900 Tokyo time.

Bulk carrier OCEAN ARTEMIS, IMO 9534987, dwt 93103, built 201,, flag HK, manager HUAYANG MARITIME CENTER (EQUASIS).

Janapenes Navy SORYU submarine, displacement 2900 ton surfaced, complement 65, armament torpedoes and missiles, commissioned 2009.

Japan submarine collision left more damage than initially thought


The Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force submarine that collided Monday with a commercial vessel in the Pacific Ocean off the western main island of Shikoku suffered more extensive damage than initially thought, MSDF officials said Tuesday.
Part of the 84-meter-long Souryu's conning tower was warped and its starboard hydroplane, which helps control depth, was broken, they said.

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Photo taken from a Kyodo News helicopter shows Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force submarine Souryu off Kochi port in the western Japan main island of Shikoku on Feb. 9, 2021, following its collision with a commercial vessel in the Pacific Ocean off Shikoku the previous day. A fin (front) on the starboard side of the submarine is seen bent over. (Kyodo) ==Kyodo

The collision may have been caused by human error including failure to sufficiently check the surroundings with sonar as the submarine surfaced, Defense Ministry sources said Tuesday. There was no reported trouble with the sonar and periscope prior to the incident.

The submarine's communications equipment was also damaged in the collision, resulting in the incident not being reported for more than three hours after it occurred at around 10:55 a.m. off Cape Ashizuri in Kochi Prefecture.

Regarding the delayed accident report, top government spokesman Katsunobu Kato said at a press conference Tuesday the ministry should take measures to prevent such a communication delay from happening again.

MSDF Chief of Staff Adm. Hiroshi Yamamura apologized for the incident in a press conference and said there was no excuse for such a communication problem.

Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi said that the ministry will fully cooperate with the Japan Coast Guard's investigation.

Kishi said Monday the Souryu was unable to avoid hitting the commercial vessel despite the ship being visible in the submarine's periscope as it surfaced.

The 5th Regional Coast Guard Headquarter started an investigation into the cause of the collision Tuesday morning at Kochi Port, where the submarine, which was engaged in routine training, arrived late Monday.

Three crew members on the submarine were slightly injured.

The commercial ship, believed to be the Hong Kong-flagged bulk carrier Ocean Artemis, had around 20 Chinese crew members aboard, according to coast guard sources.

The vessel is scheduled to arrive at Kobe Port in the western Japan prefecture of Hyogo, the regional coast guard headquarters said Tuesday. Coast guard divers will check the condition of the vessel's hull.

The ministry and coast guard are checking whether the submarine crew adhered to surfacing procedures, according to the ministry sources.

Sonar is used to detect other vessels in the vicinity, but it is difficult to detect ships located behind a submarine.

To ensure safety, a submarine, when surfacing, must change its position and gradually rise near the sea surface while making sure there is no "dead zone." Once close to the surface, the submarine extends its periscope.

According to the sources, the Souryu could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

Tidal currents may have also made it hard to capture the sonar signal from the vessel, they added.

The Souryu is a diesel-electric submarine with a standard displacement of 2,950 tons and a crew of about 65. It entered service in 2009 as the first of its class, and belongs to the fifth submarine fleet based in Kure, Hiroshima Prefecture.

Another Japanese warship crumbles before our maritime forces!
 
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Hope everybody is ok. Japanese need better driving skills.
 
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Gov't again showing that only the best and brightest work for them.
 
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According to the sources, the Souryu could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

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:rofl::rofl: They couldn't detect civilian vessel with sonar :p::p::p::what::rofl:
 
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According to the sources, the Souryu could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] They couldn't detect civilian vessel with sonar [emoji1787][emoji1787]

What is your source? Comedy Central?
 
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According to the sources, the Souryu could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] They couldn't detect civilian vessel with sonar [emoji1787][emoji1787]

a former submariner who saw active service during the Cold War, provided the following observation:

“I can attest to the risky nature of either going to periscope depth (PD) or surfacing. I would be confident that the Japanese sub crew was following all the normal protocols for either op but still managed to not detect the freighter. We nearly had it happen to us — with all the latest sonar assets and following protocol to the letter. All failed to detect the Russian freighter 500 yards off our port side. Yes, close enough to pick out the flag while executing a crash dive. Best we could figure after the laundry moment was there was a really hard salinity layer above us that was deflecting all the noise from the Russian.”


 
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Japan submarine collision left more damage than initially thought

According to the sources, the SOURYU could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

So many ( 5 Eyes western nations ) SLAVES and You--Know--Who--VuucckkHead are diligently still spewing the FAKE news that PRC CHN Diesel tech is inferior and Noisy, plus PLAN Submarines are noisy and they are all easy to detect.
 
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a former submariner who saw active service during the Cold War, provided the following observation:

“I can attest to the risky nature of either going to periscope depth (PD) or surfacing. I would be confident that the Japanese sub crew was following all the normal protocols for either op but still managed to not detect the freighter. We nearly had it happen to us — with all the latest sonar assets and following protocol to the letter. All failed to detect the Russian freighter 500 yards off our port side. Yes, close enough to pick out the flag while executing a crash dive. Best we could figure after the laundry moment was there was a really hard salinity layer above us that was deflecting all the noise from the Russian.”


Most diesel subs simply can't dive that deep. And this has happened in the open ocean as it appears, so no chance for salinity gradient.

Behold the miracles of Japanese engineering.
 
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How the hell does a submarine collide with a ship? couldn't she just dive?

I never understood two ships colliding, I mean they are not fast moving cars but a ship and submarine? this is bonkers.
 
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JMSDF are world famous for their ASW prowess, that's not going to change anytime soon.
Stop deluding yourself. If such prowess and incompetent. PLAN are far superior than anything JMSDF can throw.
How the hell does a submarine collide with a ship? couldn't she just dive?

I never understood two ships colliding, I mean they are not fast moving cars but a ship and submarine? this is bonkers.
It can only be due to Inferiority of system and incompetent of the crew.
a former submariner who saw active service during the Cold War, provided the following observation:

“I can attest to the risky nature of either going to periscope depth (PD) or surfacing. I would be confident that the Japanese sub crew was following all the normal protocols for either op but still managed to not detect the freighter. We nearly had it happen to us — with all the latest sonar assets and following protocol to the letter. All failed to detect the Russian freighter 500 yards off our port side. Yes, close enough to pick out the flag while executing a crash dive. Best we could figure after the laundry moment was there was a really hard salinity layer above us that was deflecting all the noise from the Russian.”


Excuse,, excuse and excuse. Typical face saving tactics from west for their allies.
According to the sources, the Souryu could not detect the vessel with its sonar, only noticing the vessel when it extended its periscope. By then, the submarine could not shift gear and ended up scraping the bottom of the vessel, the sources said.

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[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] They couldn't detect civilian vessel with sonar [emoji1787][emoji1787]
This is a great explanation. Thank you.
 
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Stop deluding yourself. If such prowess and incompetent. PLAN are far superior than anything JMSDF can throw.
I'm not deluding, it's from many sources People talk with high regard for JMSDF professionalism, even the chinese are in awe.
As Lian Degui and Jin Yongming state:
Japan’s anti-submarine warfare capability is considered the world’s second best.

Excuse,, excuse and excuse. Typical face saving tactics from west for their allies.
well at least he's a submariner, unlike you.

this is a more dangerous issue if you ask me.
Chinese submariners patrolling South China Sea suffer 'serious' psych problems, study finds
 
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I'm not deluding, it's from many sources People talk with high regard for JMSDF professionalism, even the chinese are in awe.
As Lian Degui and Jin Yongming state:



well at least he's a submariner, unlike you.

this is a more dangerous issue if you ask me.
Chinese submariners patrolling South China Sea suffer 'serious' psych problems, study finds
Who are they? I don't see them as expert in anything. Any tom dick harry can give comment. But a true genuine comment without bias are hard to come by nowadays with so much misinform from western journalism.
 
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