What's new

Chinese Buy Up Canada Farms; Is Beijing Behind It?

Devil Soul

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Jun 28, 2010
Messages
22,931
Reaction score
45
Country
Pakistan
Location
Pakistan
Chinese Buy Up Canada Farms; Is Beijing Behind It?
Ogema, Canada, June 21, 2013 (AFP) -With too few farms in China to feed a burgeoning population, Chinese immigrants have started buying up agricultural lands in Canada and shipping produce to Asia.

But with new investment comes fears that a generation of young Canadian would-be farmers are being squeezed out of the market by newcomers that some suspect are being bankrolled by the government in Beijing.
In Saskatchewan province, home to 45 percent of all arable land in Canada, the price of farmland has risen an average of 10 percent in the last year, and as much as 50 percent over three years in areas where Chinese immigrants have settled, according to farmer Ian Hudson, who lives near the village of Ogema.
Provincial authorities counted a half dozen large investment firms buying up farmlands in the province of one million people, but could not say if any of them are linked to Beijing, nor estimate the size of their land holdings.
Facing mounting demands from local mayors for an investigation, Saskatchewan officials began looking into the issue last year.
"The law in Saskatchewan is clear that investment in farmland in this province (buying more than 10 acres) is restricted to citizens of Canada and permanent residents," provincial agriculture minister Lyle Stewart told AFP.
Similarly farm corporations must be 100 percent Canadian-owned.
However, he added, a special investigator was hired to probe "rumors that certain interests are trying to get around our law... that these people are funded by offshore money," as well as "where the investment money is coming from."
"Two or three suspicious cases" were identified that are facing further scrutiny, the minister said, declining to offer further details while the investigation is ongoing.
Stewart noted also that Saskatchewan real estate is relatively cheap, taxes are low, borrowing rates are at a historic low, commodity prices are on the upswing and hence, "conditions are perfect for people who want to invest."
But after Chinese state-owned firms poured vast sums into neighboring Alberta's oil sands -- which forced Ottawa to tighten its investment rules to try to prevent foreign governments from controlling Canadian resources -- many in rural Saskatchewan are quick to believe that Beijing is now targeting their farmland to feed its people.
"Some people say that the Chinese state is behind this. That's wrong," said Andy Hu, the 39-year-old chief executive of Maxcrop, an upstart investment firm that deals in rural Saskatchewan real estate.
"Our investors are people with money and they're looking for a good investment," he said.
Founded in 2009, the company owns 3,000 hectares (7,400 acres) and manages nearly 30,000 hectares for investors.
A former manager of a Mattel toy factory in China, Hu moved to Canada in 2004 and started a real estate firm in Alberta before relocating to Saskatchewan after seeing potential profits in its "undervalued" farmlands.
China's emerging middle class "needs more protein" and "they're ready to pay to get good food," he noted.
So Hu scoured the province in search of the best lands and set his heart on Ogema, a village of 400 inhabitants.
His clients, most of them investors rather than farmers, and some with Canadian citizenship but living abroad, quickly snapped up thousands of hectares of land in the vicinity, which Maxcrop now leases to local farmers.
Real estate speculation, however, has made it harder for young local farmers to buy their own lands, notes fifth-generation farmer Stuart Leonard, 34.
Sporting a cap and sunglasses, behind the wheel of a monster-sized pickup, Sheldon Zou says he moved with his wife and two girls one and a half years ago to Ogema -- a long way from Tiananmen Square where he protested as a student in 1989.
He bought a 1,600-hectare farm and equipment for $1.5 million, with the help of a loan from his family.
With little actual farming experience he relied on the kindness of locals to show him the ropes. This year for the first time, he is seeding his own canola fields.
For Hu, growing crops is just the start. He points to an abandoned town near Ogema where he set up a sheep farm and hired a young Chinese immigrant and his wife to herd the animals.
Hu says he aims within two or three years to turn the operation into the largest in Canada, with 5,000 sheep, and export all of the meat to China. "The opportunities are huge here," he says.
But Leonard is a bit skeptical.
"Those big corporations, they would never be able to farm those lands themselves. Will they turn us all into employees?" he asks.
 
.
As far as I know, fewer Chinese international based corporation that controled by government has agricultural background. Most of them are natural resources, finance, telecom background.
Some rich guys has been investing in Real Estate worldwide, but it is none of Chinese government's business.
 
. .
Sounds like blatantly racist scare mongering.

lol I am already immune to those kind of news from the western media. They will twist and hint that everything Chinese does has some sinister motivation and the evil CCP government is orchestrating it!

"With too few farms in China to feed a burgeoning population" The 1st sentence is already inaccurate so I don't need read on. China's population is not "burgeoning," it's stabling and even dwindling. Too few farms? Are Chinese starving? Plus, food is also commodity and can be purchased from other countries just like shoes. Where the heck are professionalism? Accurate! Accurate! gee. Those AP reporters need go back to school and learn what burgeoning means, or was it deliberately chosen to mislead and make the story sound more plausible?
 
.
lol I am already immune to those kind of news from the western media. They will twist and hint that everything Chinese does has some sinister motivation and the evil CCP government is orchestrating it!

"With too few farms in China to feed a burgeoning population" The 1st sentence is already inaccurate so I don't need read on. China's population is not "burgeoning," it's stabling and even dwindling. Too few farms? Are Chinese starving? Plus, food is also commodity and can be purchased from other countries just like shoes. Where the heck are professionalism? Accurate! Accurate! gee. Those AP reporters need go back to school and learn what burgeoning means, or was it deliberately chosen to mislead and make the story sound more plausible?
China's population may be in decline, but...

Shrinking arable land adds concern on China's grain security
BEIJING, Oct. 18 (Xinhua) -- Although China's success in feeding 22 percent of the world population using the world's less than 10 percent arable land has been hailed as a miracle, concern is growing that the country's shrinking arable land would jeopardize grain security.

China lost 123 million mu of arable land from 1997 to 2009.
So unless the population decline rate is higher than arable land loss rate, China will face serious food issues. And you are wrong that 'food' can be bought. It is staples such as wheat, corn, rice, beef, etc., that can be bought. Not food. Refined foodstuff palatable to one people may be disgusting to another. China's leadership is thinking ahead, far ahead than your criticisms of the news article.
 
.
China's population may be in decline, but...

Shrinking arable land adds concern on China's grain security

So unless the population decline rate is higher than arable land loss rate, China will face serious food issues. And you are wrong that 'food' can be bought. It is staples such as wheat, corn, rice, beef, etc., that can be bought. Not food. Refined foodstuff palatable to one people may be disgusting to another. China's leadership is thinking ahead, far ahead than your criticisms of the news article.

so now the reasoning behind buying up lands is not "burgeoning population" but loss of arable land? Well, maybe you should contact AP news reporter to correct that glaring error.

Plus, when talking about food security, people mostly refer to staple food, not some exotic food.

Oops, I really shouldn't bother. Please do not write me a giant piece with myriad of arguments not relevant to my original post like what you enjoyed doing in other threads.
 
.
so now the reasoning behind buying up lands is not "burgeoning population" but loss of arable land? Well, maybe you should contact AP news reporter to correct that glaring error.
I do not care. Your intent here is to try to dismiss the real potential food versus population crisis in China. No, not a crisis yet. But China's leadership seems to be more keen to the issue than you are by your nitpicking of the news article.

Oops, I really shouldn't bother. Please do not write me a giant piece with myriad of arguments not relevant to my original post like what you enjoyed doing in other threads.
No need. It is proven that anything more than one paragraph, it would go whoooooshhhh over your head anyway.
 
.
The Chinese are taking over entire companies in all sectors and replacing the employees with Chinese employees. The Canadian government is taking regulations to complicate work visas especially for Chinese in order to counter this problem.
 
.
I do not care. Your intent here is to try to dismiss the real potential food versus population crisis in China. No, not a crisis yet. But China's leadership seems to be more keen to the issue than you are by your nitpicking of the news article.


No need. It is proven that anything more than one paragraph, it would go whoooooshhhh over your head anyway.

The problem is not so much as not having enough to eat but rather the changing demands for a higher protein-meat based diet for the average Chinese citizen. Meat is a very inefficient food to produce and is very water and energy intensive relative to straight out eating staple crops.
In my parents day (you were youngish old then), meat was seldom eaten except on special occasions and the people were lithe, sinewy and hard as cured leather. These days, Chinese are becoming soft and fat and might cross the line into becomming ludicrously rotund like the Americans.
 
.
The problem is not so much as not having enough to eat but rather the changing demands for a higher protein-meat based diet for the average Chinese citizen. Meat is a very inefficient food to produce and is very water and energy intensive relative to straight out eating staple crops.
In my parents day (you were youngish old then), meat was seldom eaten except on special occasions and the people were lithe, sinewy and hard as cured leather. These days, Chinese are becoming soft and fat and might cross the line into becomming ludicrously rotund like the Americans.

China's farms are the world's richest deposits of pure cadmium.

It makes economic sense to mine for cadmium in those farms, rather produce rice.

Plain economics .... that's all.
 
.
As far as I know, fewer Chinese international based corporation that controled by government has agricultural background. Most of them are natural resources, finance, telecom background.
Some rich guys has been investing in Real Estate worldwide, but it is none of Chinese government's business.

No, there are definitely Chinese company out there buying agriculture land with government backing. I am kinda skeptical about buying Canadian farm land though. Traditionally, Chinese companies like to buy these types of land in Brazil or Africa. The reason is quite simple----Brazil and Africa's climate are good for agricultural production. Don't get me wrong, Canada definitely got good land, but the latitude is a bit too high.
 
.
Cash is king.

China has money in all kind of colour. It will bought whatever the phuck it wants.

The white trash (Canada included) will sell whatever they have.

This is reality.
 
.
Cash is king.

China has money in all kind of colour. It will bought whatever the phuck it wants.

The white trash (Canada included) will sell whatever they have.

This is reality.

I don't believe that Chinese government is behind this. But the people who siphoning off the government dough are behind it. They need to launder their money out of the country so it buy up things, including land, else where.
 
. .
^^^
^^^^ It is just semantic.

In Canada, there is no distinction between China as a government, and China as a business enterprise. They all got lumped together.

So might as well play along.
 
.
Back
Top Bottom