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It obviously seems like a very strong strategic point.

If they are really building the nuclear submarine. Good for them.

As India already operates on lease from Russia.
 
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yeah, china has nuclear submarine which researched by ourselvies since 1970's era, so the advanced nuclear submarine 093, 094,and 096 has been equipped chinese military
 
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More on China's new secret nuclear sub base at Hainan from Janes'.

Satellite images reveal China's underground nuclear submarine base | The Australian

The AustralianApril 24, 2008 12:08am AEST Satellite images reveal China's underground nuclear submarine base Rowan Callick, China correspondent | April 24, 2008

CHINA is building a large underground nuclear submarine base at its sub-tropical Hainan Island, says Jane's Information Group, specialists in military intelligence.

Jane's says it was first informed by Asian defence sources about the construction of the base five years ago, but has now been able to confirm this through high-resolution, newly commercially available satellite imagery.

The Chinese navy has rapidly acquired a blue-water capacity. It has 57 submarines, five of them nuclear-powered, with many of them equipped with Yingji-8 anti-ship cruise missiles that they can launch while still submerged.

It underlined this capacity 18 months ago when a 75m long Song S20 class vessel, built in the Wuhan shipyard, with unusually quiet German diesel engines, suddenly surfaced in the middle of an American battle fleet.

The submarine appeared within 8km of the US aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, in international waters not far from Japan's southern island of Okinawa.

The new Yulin submarine base is located near Sanya, a fast developing resort centre on the south of Hainan. It was at Sanya where Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and China's President Hu Jintao met 12 days ago.

The island, half the size of Tasmania, is best known for tourism and tropical fruit, and has also hosted most of the recent Miss World contests.

It is about 200km from the Vietnam coast. Jane's says the extent of construction revealed by the DigitalGlobe imagery indicates Yulin could become a key base for aircraft carriers and other large surface craft, as well as for submarines.

The first type 094 second-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine was shifted there last December.

Jane's says such a base has implications "for China's control of the South China Sea and the strategically vital straits in the area, and underlines Beijing's desire to assert tighter control over this region".

Typically, China has offered no public explanation of this development, which has strategic implications for the hotly disputed Spratly Islands - believed to be oil-rich - within the South China Sea where China and Vietnam have the most extensive claims, as well as for the busy shipping lanes between Europe, Southeast Asia and North Asia, and for Taiwan, 900km north-east of Hainan.

And Jane's adds: "China's increasing dependence on imported petroleum and mineral resources has contributed to an intensified concern about defending its access to vital sea lanes, particularly to its south."

Taiwan's National Security Council recently reported that the number of tactical ballistic missiles deployed by China against it had reached more than 1400 at the start of this year, augmented by more than 190 cruise missiles.

The council said China's navy, with more than 1000 vessels and 250,000 personnel, was acquiring the capacity to blockade Taiwan.

Taiwan is itself set to spend $12.3billion on eight diesel-electric attack submarines that it would buy from the US, although selection of the prime contractor would probably take a further 15 months. A decision on that purchase is expected shortly after the May 20 inauguration of Taiwan's new president, Ma Ying-jeou.

Taiwan already has two Dutch-built Hai-lung (Sea Dragon) submarines, and two former US World War II-era submarines that are used only for training.

A report produced earlier this month by Asian Security Affairs specialist Shirley Kan for the US Congressional Research Service said: "The People's Liberation Army has continued to build up its forces that threaten Taiwan, raising the question of whether the military balance already has shifted to favour China."

If Mr Ma's Kuomintang party negotiates a withdrawal of the missiles targeting Taiwan, says the report, Taiwan's own "military deployments and missile programs could be subject to China's demands".

PS:How German engines are aboard a Chinese sub is intriguing.It indicates China's dexterity and ingenuity in foraging for suitable technology and we must keep in mind inevitable transfers to Pak.

China builds N-submarine base - Newindpress.com

China builds N-submarine base
Friday May 2 2008 01:38 IST
The Daily Telegraph

LONDON: China has secretly built a major underground nuclear submarine base that could threaten Asian countries and challenge American power in the region.

Satellite imagery, passed to The Daily Telegraph, shows that a harbour has been built which could house a score of nuclear ballistic missile submarines and a host of aircraft carriers.

In what will be a significant challenge to US Navy dominance and to countries ringing the South China Sea, one photograph shows China’s latest 094 nuclear submarine at the base just a few hundred miles from its neighbours.

Other images show numerous warships moored to long jettys and a network of underground tunnels at the Sanya base on the southern tip of Hainan island.

Of greater concern to the Pentagon are tunnel entrances, about 60ft high, built into hillsides around the base. Sources fear they could lead to caverns capable of hiding up to 20 nuclear submarines from spy satellites.

The US Department of Defence has estimated that China will have five 094 nuclear submarines operational by 2010 with each capable of carrying 12 JL-2 nuclear missiles.

The images were obtained by Janes Intelligence Review after it was given access to imagery from the satellite company DigitalGlobe.

Analysts for the military magazine say the base could be used for “expeditionary as well as defensive operations” and would allow the submarines to “break out to launch locations closer to the US”. It would now be “difficult to ignore” that China was building a major naval base where it could house its nuclear forces and increase its “strategic capability considerably further afield”.

Analysts believe China’s build up of its forces is gaining pace but has remained hidden from the world in the build up to the Olympics. The location of the base will also give the submarines access to very deep water exceeding 5,000 metres within a few miles, making them even harder to detect.

Two 950 m piers and three smaller ones would be enough to accommodate two carrier strike groups or amphibious assault ships.

Editor for Jane’s Intelligence Review said the complex underlined Beijing’s plan “to assert tighter control over this region”. So far China has offered no public explanation for its building at Sanya.

Telegraph article in full with pic of underground tunnel entrnce for subs.Click on the pic to see further details of the anchorage,base,jetties,and tunnel entrances for subs and missiles.

Chinese nuclear submarine base - Telegraph

Analysis: China's nuclear secret exposed
By Richard Spencer in Beijing

China bills the tropical island of Hainan as a new Hawaii. Its sparkling beaches are lined by hotels patronised by western expatriates, Russian package tours and China's new middle classes.

Sanya, the town on its southern tip, is best known for hosting Miss World in recent years. But right next door, China's forward-looking naval strategists are putting a different vision of international relations into effect.

Of all China's technological deficits with the West, the one that hurts most acutely is its military dominance by the United States - and above all the fact that even off its own coast America rules the waves.

No programme has been more important to the People's Liberation Army in the last decade than the development of new submarines.

The issue of aircraft carriers is more complex - China has no realistic hope of matching America's 11, and although many analysts claim it is currently trying to build one this is by no means certain.

But its strategists believe that under the principle of asymmetric warfare the presence of advanced submarines in the western Pacific is enough to ensure their first goal - deterring the United States from intervening should they decide to invade Taiwan.

No occupant of the White House, they argue, would risk losing a US aircraft carrier to torpedoes or submarine-launched missiles for the sake of an island so far away from the concerns of the American people.

Beyond Taiwan, a "blue-water fleet" characterised by nuclear-powered submarines with or without aircraft carriers could stretch itself further, to protect shipping routes in south-east Asia. Its economy is increasingly dependent on oil supplies from the Middle East and Africa, as well as its huge export industry.

Of most concern to its immediate neighbours, though, are the waters in the immediate vicinity of Hainan. The South China Sea is dotted with small islands disputed by a number of countries - the Spratleys are claimed not only by China, but Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, and Taiwan.

Their current value is small, but their potential, if rumours of underwater oil fields prove to be vindicated, is large.

Further afield there are China's even more sensitive relations with Japan to consider: the sea border between the two is also disputed, and also crosses a natural gas field.

In November 2006, a Chinese home-built Song-class diesel submarine suddenly surfaced, undetected, in the middle of a US battle group off Japan. It was a clear warning that its naval weakness could not be taken for granted.

China's navy is still dwarfed by America's, and will be for years if not decades to come. But in the light of events in Iraq, it knows that in any coming confrontation the psychology of threat is as important as actual size.
 
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The scale and extent of the new base is simply staggering.It can accomodate upto "20",yes 20 SSBNs! An analyst has also said that " the Sanya base gave China reach into the Indian Ocean". You can make your own calculations as to how many missiles and warheads will be located at this single base alone.It indicates that China intensds/possesses a nuclear arsenal of perhapsa few thousand warheads.This is not a base merely for defence purposes.It is clearly intended to be a main base for a blue-water PLAN that will operate far from the waters and 3 "island chains" of earlier Chinese strategy.The siting of sub pens under hills are meant to safeguard them from any nuclear attack.The base is also likely to be very heavily defended with aircaft and and missile defences.This must come as a rude shock to our dreamers in the PMO and MOD,who think that pleasant smiles at diplomatic banquets and safeguarding the olympic torch will keep the Chinese in good humour and offer no threat to India.Dream on S.I.Singh.

Chinese nuclear submarines prompt 'new Cold War' warning

By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 2:48AM BST 03/05/2008
Tensions in the Far East could reach "Cold War levels" defence analysts warned, following evidence that China had secretly developed a major nuclear submarine base.

China is seeking to extend its influence

Satellite photographs passed to The Daily Telegraph this week showed that the secret base at Sanya on Hainan island will house up to 20 of the latest 094 Jin-class nuclear ballistic submarines that could be capable of firing anti-satellite missiles and nuclear-tipped cruise missiles.

The construction showed that China was “ramping up its operational capability” and developing a “blue water navy” that would challenge the dominance of the US in the Pacific, said Alex Neill, head of the Asia Security Programme at the Royal United Services Institute.

In the last 20 years China had gone from a coastal force to a navy capable of “exerting its influence far afield,” a senior Royal Navy officer said.

“It is clearly looking at a wider area of operations in the Far East but it also does not like the US placing their carrier battle groups in the area. In due course this could lead to Cold War levels of stand off,” the officer said.

There are also concerns that Beijing has secretly developed a broad military strategy - including internet assaults and satellite strikes - that could allow it to take Taiwan with the US unable to respond.

While talks continue for a peaceful settlement the island has long been in Beijing’s sights since it broke from the mainland in 1949.

Kerry Brown, the China expert at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, warned of “hawkish” elements in the two million strong People’s Liberation Army (PLA) who were “very focused” on Taiwan.

”The main source of friction is Taiwan and you cannot rule out a nationalistic military faction coming to power to taking a punt to have a quick go.”

Chinese defence expenditure is estimated by the Pentagon to be $50 billion (£25 billion) but analysts believe large chunks of the budget are “squirreled away” and it could be as high as $200 billion making it the second largest in the world after America.

The PLA is developing a strategy called the “sea denial campaign” which would prevent America intervening in any conflict with Taiwan, Mr Brown said.

It entails asymmetric conflict in which China would use cyber warfare and laser energy to wipe out communications. Anti-satellite missiles, potentially launched from submarines, would ensure that America was “blind” over the Far East. The Chinese have already proven that they have these capabilities as well as using espionage to remove military technology from the US.

”This is what they call pressure point warfare in which they remove any US response in one fell swoop,” Mr Brown said. “China wishes to power project well into the Pacific and challenge the dominance of the US Pacific Command.”

He also said that the Sanya base gave China reach into the Indian Ocean.

Much to America’s disgust, China’s missile accuracy has been improved from 5km down to 1km. China’s own space programme - that some experts believe equals Cape Canaveral in size - is also expanding close to the navy base on Hainan island.

There was no one available at the Chinese Embassy in London to comment.
 
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i do not know what you mean?

Hey I have just given some analysts reports about the strategic implications of this base. This is really alarming for american forces in deo garcia as well as it threatens india also
 
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i do not think it is a threat to india and us if they have no intention to invade CHINA.
 
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i do not think it is a threat to india and us if they have no intention to invade CHINA.

The base is threat to every power which has interest in that region. Also it is near to mallaca straits from where most of the oil traffic passes.
 
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The base is threat to every power which has interest in that region. Also it is near to mallaca straits from where most of the oil traffic passes.

in some degree, if you think it is a threat, perhaps it may be a true threat.
 
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i do not think so , every country has his right to develop military force to protect its national interest, it should not be condemed, however, the military force should be used keeping peace, but not to invade and expand.
once a country use his military power to invade other country, he should be condemed by international society. so i think we can not prevent other to develop his military force, but we should do our things preventing happeness of invasion.
 
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More on China's new secret nuclear sub base at Hainan from Janes'.

Satellite images reveal China's underground nuclear submarine base | The Australian

The AustralianApril 24, 2008 12:08am AEST Satellite images reveal China's underground nuclear submarine base Rowan Callick, China correspondent | April 24, 2008

CHINA is building a large underground nuclear submarine base at its sub-tropical Hainan Island, says Jane's Information Group, specialists in military intelligence.

Jane's says it was first informed by Asian defence sources about the construction of the base five years ago, but has now been able to confirm this through high-resolution, newly commercially available satellite imagery.

The Chinese navy has rapidly acquired a blue-water capacity. It has 57 submarines, five of them nuclear-powered, with many of them equipped with Yingji-8 anti-ship cruise missiles that they can launch while still submerged.

It underlined this capacity 18 months ago when a 75m long Song S20 class vessel, built in the Wuhan shipyard, with unusually quiet German diesel engines, suddenly surfaced in the middle of an American battle fleet.

The submarine appeared within 8km of the US aircraft carrier Kitty Hawk, in international waters not far from Japan's southern island of Okinawa.

The new Yulin submarine base is located near Sanya, a fast developing resort centre on the south of Hainan. It was at Sanya where Prime Minister Kevin Rudd and China's President Hu Jintao met 12 days ago.

The island, half the size of Tasmania, is best known for tourism and tropical fruit, and has also hosted most of the recent Miss World contests.

It is about 200km from the Vietnam coast. Jane's says the extent of construction revealed by the DigitalGlobe imagery indicates Yulin could become a key base for aircraft carriers and other large surface craft, as well as for submarines.

The first type 094 second-generation nuclear ballistic missile submarine was shifted there last December.

Jane's says such a base has implications "for China's control of the South China Sea and the strategically vital straits in the area, and underlines Beijing's desire to assert tighter control over this region".

Typically, China has offered no public explanation of this development, which has strategic implications for the hotly disputed Spratly Islands - believed to be oil-rich - within the South China Sea where China and Vietnam have the most extensive claims, as well as for the busy shipping lanes between Europe, Southeast Asia and North Asia, and for Taiwan, 900km north-east of Hainan.

And Jane's adds: "China's increasing dependence on imported petroleum and mineral resources has contributed to an intensified concern about defending its access to vital sea lanes, particularly to its south."

Taiwan's National Security Council recently reported that the number of tactical ballistic missiles deployed by China against it had reached more than 1400 at the start of this year, augmented by more than 190 cruise missiles.

The council said China's navy, with more than 1000 vessels and 250,000 personnel, was acquiring the capacity to blockade Taiwan.

Taiwan is itself set to spend $12.3billion on eight diesel-electric attack submarines that it would buy from the US, although selection of the prime contractor would probably take a further 15 months. A decision on that purchase is expected shortly after the May 20 inauguration of Taiwan's new president, Ma Ying-jeou.

Taiwan already has two Dutch-built Hai-lung (Sea Dragon) submarines, and two former US World War II-era submarines that are used only for training.

A report produced earlier this month by Asian Security Affairs specialist Shirley Kan for the US Congressional Research Service said: "The People's Liberation Army has continued to build up its forces that threaten Taiwan, raising the question of whether the military balance already has shifted to favour China."

If Mr Ma's Kuomintang party negotiates a withdrawal of the missiles targeting Taiwan, says the report, Taiwan's own "military deployments and missile programs could be subject to China's demands".

PS:How German engines are aboard a Chinese sub is intriguing.It indicates China's dexterity and ingenuity in foraging for suitable technology and we must keep in mind inevitable transfers to Pak.

China builds N-submarine base - Newindpress.com

China builds N-submarine base
Friday May 2 2008 01:38 IST
The Daily Telegraph

LONDON: China has secretly built a major underground nuclear submarine base that could threaten Asian countries and challenge American power in the region.

Satellite imagery, passed to The Daily Telegraph, shows that a harbour has been built which could house a score of nuclear ballistic missile submarines and a host of aircraft carriers.

In what will be a significant challenge to US Navy dominance and to countries ringing the South China Sea, one photograph shows China’s latest 094 nuclear submarine at the base just a few hundred miles from its neighbours.

Other images show numerous warships moored to long jettys and a network of underground tunnels at the Sanya base on the southern tip of Hainan island.

Of greater concern to the Pentagon are tunnel entrances, about 60ft high, built into hillsides around the base. Sources fear they could lead to caverns capable of hiding up to 20 nuclear submarines from spy satellites.

The US Department of Defence has estimated that China will have five 094 nuclear submarines operational by 2010 with each capable of carrying 12 JL-2 nuclear missiles.

The images were obtained by Janes Intelligence Review after it was given access to imagery from the satellite company DigitalGlobe.

Analysts for the military magazine say the base could be used for “expeditionary as well as defensive operations” and would allow the submarines to “break out to launch locations closer to the US”. It would now be “difficult to ignore” that China was building a major naval base where it could house its nuclear forces and increase its “strategic capability considerably further afield”.

Analysts believe China’s build up of its forces is gaining pace but has remained hidden from the world in the build up to the Olympics. The location of the base will also give the submarines access to very deep water exceeding 5,000 metres within a few miles, making them even harder to detect.

Two 950 m piers and three smaller ones would be enough to accommodate two carrier strike groups or amphibious assault ships.

Editor for Jane’s Intelligence Review said the complex underlined Beijing’s plan “to assert tighter control over this region”. So far China has offered no public explanation for its building at Sanya.

Telegraph article in full with pic of underground tunnel entrnce for subs.Click on the pic to see further details of the anchorage,base,jetties,and tunnel entrances for subs and missiles.

Chinese nuclear submarine base - Telegraph

Analysis: China's nuclear secret exposed
By Richard Spencer in Beijing

China bills the tropical island of Hainan as a new Hawaii. Its sparkling beaches are lined by hotels patronised by western expatriates, Russian package tours and China's new middle classes.

Sanya, the town on its southern tip, is best known for hosting Miss World in recent years. But right next door, China's forward-looking naval strategists are putting a different vision of international relations into effect.

Of all China's technological deficits with the West, the one that hurts most acutely is its military dominance by the United States - and above all the fact that even off its own coast America rules the waves.

No programme has been more important to the People's Liberation Army in the last decade than the development of new submarines.

The issue of aircraft carriers is more complex - China has no realistic hope of matching America's 11, and although many analysts claim it is currently trying to build one this is by no means certain.

But its strategists believe that under the principle of asymmetric warfare the presence of advanced submarines in the western Pacific is enough to ensure their first goal - deterring the United States from intervening should they decide to invade Taiwan.

No occupant of the White House, they argue, would risk losing a US aircraft carrier to torpedoes or submarine-launched missiles for the sake of an island so far away from the concerns of the American people.

Beyond Taiwan, a "blue-water fleet" characterised by nuclear-powered submarines with or without aircraft carriers could stretch itself further, to protect shipping routes in south-east Asia. Its economy is increasingly dependent on oil supplies from the Middle East and Africa, as well as its huge export industry.

Of most concern to its immediate neighbours, though, are the waters in the immediate vicinity of Hainan. The South China Sea is dotted with small islands disputed by a number of countries - the Spratleys are claimed not only by China, but Vietnam, the Philippines, Brunei, and Taiwan.

Their current value is small, but their potential, if rumours of underwater oil fields prove to be vindicated, is large.

Further afield there are China's even more sensitive relations with Japan to consider: the sea border between the two is also disputed, and also crosses a natural gas field.

In November 2006, a Chinese home-built Song-class diesel submarine suddenly surfaced, undetected, in the middle of a US battle group off Japan. It was a clear warning that its naval weakness could not be taken for granted.

China's navy is still dwarfed by America's, and will be for years if not decades to come. But in the light of events in Iraq, it knows that in any coming confrontation the psychology of threat is as important as actual size.

Why finger China when India is building secret nuclear
submarine base ???

India's Nuclear Submarine Base
Twenty22-India on the move: India's Nuclear Submarine Base

India’s first ever naval base for nuclear submarines is coming up at Rambilli near Vishakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh and its first phase, costing Rs 1,500 crore, will be operational by 2011. Aircraft carriers and bigger ships will also be berthed at the Rambilli naval base, 50 kms south of Vishakhapatnam. The Rambilli base is India’s answer to China’s underground nuclear submarine base at Sanya off Hainan Island. Though the Rambilli base is not underground the way Sanya base is, the boats here will be invisible to prying eyes of the enemy and its activities will remain off the satellite imagery network. Rambilli will allow submarines to enter and leave the facility while submerged and, therefore, away from the prying eyes of spy satellites. The Rambilli base will be an important strategic asset for India. China has inked a pact with Islamabad to use Pakistan’s Gwadar naval base which has been constructed with the Chinese financial and manpower assistance. Besides, China has been using Myanmar’s facilities to set up an electronic eaves dropping centre on the Coco Islands to monitor movements of the Indian Navy in the Bay of Bengal. India does not have a nuclear submarine as of now.
Its indigenous nuclear submarine, known as ATV (Advanced Technology Vessel), is expected to be complete by next year.Russia is leasing at least one nuclear attack submarine, known as Akula II SSN, to India at a cost of several million dollars per month. ATV’s construction may to be completed by next year after which its sea trials and tests will begin. Though based on Russian technology, ATV is Indian designed and built. India plans to have five ATVs in its arsenal.
The Russian Akula will primarily serve as a training boat for India’s new nuclear submarine force. China’s Sanya naval base can house as many as 20 nuclear submarines. Beijing has been constructing the base for the past six years as part of its strategy to challenge US naval dominance in the Pacific Ocean and Asia, and to be able to project Beijing’s power in the region and beyond.
 
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No one fingering to any one its just a news and all are sharing this :hitwall:

When people share News about India, Indians here quickly label it as "anti-India" but it is ok for Indians to finger other countries namely - Pakistan and China.

i do not think it is a threat to india and us if they have no intention to invade CHINA.

Is it even worth wasting time for China to "invade" India ? Nope. Not worth wasting time doing so.

There are two things that are plentiful in India :

1. Too many Indians.
2. Too many Cows.

But China don't need the above two.
 
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