yes, you did, you clearly alluded that many other countries do it, such as the soviets and east germany as though that somehow made it okay. you even went as far as bringing in Deng as though because the CCP did it, then no one of chinese origin can question what america is doing.
and i quote " The Soviets did it. So did the East Germans. And just about every governments, including allied governments"
It is
YOUR interpretation of what I said, not what I tried to explained to your feeble intellect.
If a car theft ring targets only Mercedes, what is the police supposed to do ? Watch only Chevys ? Watch all cars ? It would be nice to watch all cars but if Mercs have a higher odds of being targeted by thieves, it would make sense for the police to place Mercs highest on the list.
Is that too difficult for that 'high Chinese IQ' we have been lectured about ?
So when I said other governments 'do it', I mean that if other governments used racial/ethnic ties as component of their espionage tactics, even though it is
NOT morally digestable it is still pragmatically acceptable and necessary for the targeted country to resort to racial profiling to protect itself.
Other Asian governments openly accused China (Deng Xiaoping) of using racial/ethnic ties to foment dissent and even communist revolutions in their countries and China could not deny the charges. Out of thousands of Chinese, one dedicated person can do a lot of damage, not just to the host country, but to all Chinese who are innocent and even ignorant of what goes on. But we cannot say that because those Asian countries have recorded radio broadcasts of China urging any and every overseas Chinese to rebel against those host countries, that means most, if not all, Chinese in those host countries knew what China wanted of them. Are you going to tell us that those Asian governments were wrong to focus on their Chinese communities ?
I am positive that Lee Kuan Yew, himself ethnic Chinese and who threw that fact in front of Deng Xiaoping, did not relished the order for Singapore to monitor its own Chinese community, but he felt that it must be done in the interests of national security from a country that is much larger than his own, much more powerfully armed, and had no moral reservations in resorting to racial/ethnic profiling to achieve its political goals.
hitler killed jews for being jews and america is violating the rights of chinese american simply because they are chinese american.
Bullshit.
moreover i had never suggested that the US gov ignore all signs of espionage. they should do a deep background check and keep an eye out when the work is sensitive, however its the blatant violation of rights that i am against, its charging people with crimes when there is zero evidence they committed any. when people are arrested simply because they are chinese and had a holiday in china. when lives are ruins based on nothing more than ethnicity.
my experience is irrelevant and i am unwilling to release private info on the internet, when we have clear news reports of discrimination going on, the scale is disputable but its undeniable. the fact that you think blatant violation of rights, the very rights the government of the United States has guaranteed its people is appalling.
I am willing to say that I have far more experience than you in living amongst and dealing with white Americans based on that I am older than you and traveled more.
Asians maybe able to tell each other apart, as you and I probably can, but not all white Americans are willing to expend the efforts to learn, so as far as Asians goes, how different a Thai or a Chinese or a Japanese from each other is irrelevant to them. When I joined the USAF back in 1983, Viet Nam was still considered a hostile country to the US, and yet not once was I ever pulled aside and questioned about my loyalty. My Top Secret clearance was never delayed and I advanced in ranks based on merits, just like everyone else.
I had more racial/ethnic complications from the Arabs, the Turks, and the Egyptians more than I had (none) with the Brits, the Spaniards, the French, the Italians, the Germans, and my fellow Americans. If it was not for a mild case of otosclerosis, which affected my left inner ear and prevented me from going above 15k ft, I would have made it a 20yr career in the USAF. In my travels in the US, which included the 'deep South', not once did any police officer or sheriff deputy pulled me over or any merchant refused to service me just because of my Asian features.
So no...Your experience in the US as an Asian is not irrelevant, not when you made a blanket moral indictment and where other Asians' experience, such as myself, do not conform to your condemnation of the country that is an immigrant country and treats those under its jurisdiction, citizens and non-citizens, far more better than your China does.
again you have this with us or against us mentality, how about you realize the world is not black and white. one can criticize the US government and whatever other country at the same time. i can criticize the US for its discriminatory acts while at the same time criticize china for its internet censorship. but this particular thread is about the US and new of chinese americans being unjustly targeted, anything else is just your attempt at moving the topic off focus.
Your China is the one with the 'us v them' mentality, pal. Your fellow Chinese on this forum is proof of that. Any country that want to adopt that attitude with US, I have no problems supporting the reciprocal.
Your China does not care about what happens to Chinese-Americans in the US.
Chinese intelligence operations in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
People go after Wen Ho Lee (Los Alamos) as proof that China is innocent of using racial/ethnic ties as component of its espionage tactics but other cases do not support that innocence.
Chi Mak - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I have a friend who worked at L-3 during that time of Chi Mak and the silent consensus among the company's ranks was that he was targeted and recruited by the Chinese intelligence agencies, both that he was Chinese and that he worked for a company with sensitive military contracts.
Things did not changed for your China since the ignoble collapse of the Soviet Union. For China, there is a new Cold War where China is the lead and nationalism, not ideology, is the
casus belli for this war.
For your China, the world is yellow and white. Other Asians are whites. Africans are whites. If innocent Chinese-Americans are caught in the espionage operations started by China, your China's attitude is that they are US citizens anyway, so other than a temporary setback, no harm done to China. There will always be other Chinese, not Vietnamese or Japanese or Korean, but Chinese, who will be sympathetic to his/her racial and blood ties and obey China.
so if you get poo on your face and the guy next to you has a slightly worst smelling poo on his face, he cant say both of you stink?
I got no problem saying we all stink.
another attempt at driving off topic since this has nothing to do with anything. how sad and pathetic.
That was directed at your fellow Chinese who made an off topic comment. You guys are good at that. So sad and pathetic is correct.
