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Is there any dedicated thread for the JF-17 Thunder in this "Chinese Defence" column? And if not, where to post info about this type of aircraft? Thanks

I search this column the several references or mentioning of JF-17 are spread over many threads. Confusing.
The Chinese Weapon Export is the most relevant to JF-17. Or you can open a new thread like Chinese Military Aircraft Export, to cover JF-17, FTC-2000G, K-8 etc.
 
The Chinese Weapon Export is the most relevant to JF-17. Or you can open a new thread like Chinese Military Aircraft Export, to cover JF-17, FTC-2000G, K-8 etc.
Thanks, but unfortunately the nature of the article does not justify opening a new thread as such...

Anyhow, since that article is very good and comes from an expert source, I'll just post a short piece with link for anyone interested to read the web version.

Expert: Who shot down India's MiG-21 in India-Pakistan air battle? (2019-03-12)

The expert who becomes the source of this article is Professor Jin Yinan from the National Defense University (NDU) of the PLA.

The original article is published on http://mil.cnr.cn/ and it is translated from Chinese into English by the China Military Online.

http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2019-03/12/content_9448059.htm

I have read so many conflicting news upon the MIG-21 shot-down back then, which aircraft from the PAF that shot down the IAF MIG-21, or whether it's an AAM or SAM that did the task.
 
@Deino, Any idea on IL-76 #B-4030, B-4032 ....to B-4035 in PLAAF, what are their new serial numbers? 20 X 4X, 21X4 X ...?
 
Thanks, but unfortunately the nature of the article does not justify opening a new thread as such...

Anyhow, since that article is very good and comes from an expert source, I'll just post a short piece with link for anyone interested to read the web version.

Expert: Who shot down India's MiG-21 in India-Pakistan air battle? (2019-03-12)

The expert who becomes the source of this article is Professor Jin Yinan from the National Defense University (NDU) of the PLA.

The original article is published on http://mil.cnr.cn/ and it is translated from Chinese into English by the China Military Online.

http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2019-03/12/content_9448059.htm

I have read so many conflicting news upon the MIG-21 shot-down back then, which aircraft from the PAF that shot down the IAF MIG-21, or whether it's an AAM or SAM that did the task.

The article lost credibility once it stated PAF has less than 20 F-16 in service.

"First, the sales of F-16 fighters had been cut off by the US, so Pakistan now has only less than 20 such aircraft left, not to mention how many of which could still perform a flight mission."
 
China’s most powerful air-to-air missile equipped on warplanes
By Liu Xuanzun Source:Global Times Published: 2019/3/26 21:03:40

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A Chinese J-11B fighter jet is photographed carrying a new type of air-to-air missile. Photo: China Central Television

The J-11B fighter jet has become the latest user of China's self-developed world-class air-to-air missile that was feared by senior US military officers, revealed China's national broadcaster on Monday.

A photo appeared on a China Central Television (CCTV) program on Monday shows a J-11B under the People's Liberation Army Air Force carrying a large missile under its wing.

The J-20 stealth fighter jet carried the same type of missile and made public display at the Airshow China 2018 in Zhuhai, South China's Guangdong Province, in November 2018, CCTV reported.

This is the first time a J-11B is spotted carrying this type of missile, the report said.

"Judging from the shape and aerodynamic design plus the J-20 reference, the missile is very likely to be the PL-15 air-to-air missile," Wei Dongxu, a Beijing-based military analyst, told the Global Times on Tuesday.

Wei compared the PL-15 with the US' latest AIM-120 missile, as both have very long effective range that would allow the launch platform to become an airborne sniper, enabling an aircraft to hunt hostile fighters, early warning aircraft and aerial tankers from beyond visual range.

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A J-11B fighter jet attached to an aviation brigade of the air force with the PLA Northern Theater Command flies at low altitude through valleys during a flight training exercise on January 8, 2019. Photo: eng.chinamil.com.cn

US media outlet the National Interest said the PL-15's effective range could be much higher than the AIM-120's 180 kilometers, but that could be an exaggeration, according to Wei.

The PL-15 is also equipped with an active electronically scanned array radar, which makes evasion very difficult, Bloomberg reported.

Then-US Air Force general Herbert Carlisle voiced serious concern about the PL-15 missile when it was first made public in 2015, as he called on the US Congress to fund a response, the Bloomberg report said.

Wei said the technology of the PL-15 has matured, so it can now be put on a variety of platforms, including the J-11B.

By equipping the missile, the J-11B's aerial combat capability can be greatly boosted, the CCTV report said.

The J-11B is less advanced than other Chinese fighters like the J-20, and some military observers said the J-11B's radar could be outdated in a way that it cannot see far enough what the PL-15 can hit at maximum range.

But that would not be a problem if the fighter is supported by other warplanes like an early warning aircraft, which can send target data to the J-11B, Wei said.

Dubbed by Chinese military observers as the "aerial trident," the J-20, J-16 and J-10C fighter jets, conducted air defense penetration drills in June 2018, with all of them reportedly carrying the PL-15 missiles. Now the J-11B could join the PL-15 club.
 
Yellow painted numbers on blue grey fuselage and red painted numbers on white fuselage, isn't this an interesting combination? Old near retirement J7(B?) gathered to form a (training ?) brigade/regiment before they are finally pay-off.

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Yellow painted numbers on blue grey fuselage and red painted numbers on white fuselage, isn't this an interesting combination? Old near retirement J7(B?) gathered to form a (training ?) brigade/regiment before they are finally pay-off.

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Must be older images due to the 41x4x serials, which correspond to the former 33rd Division's 99th AR, a unit that is now the 99th Air Brigade:

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By the way, there is an interesting post over there at the SDF by:

siegecrossbow said:
“Comrades! Hopefully you are excited about your new replacement aircraft --- second hand J-8IIs!"

https://military.china.com/jctp/tuku/11172988/20190326/35514060.html#page=1

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Why the sad face???

老将换老将 西部战区某旅从歼7成功改飞歼8 translated as "Veteran veteran, a brigade in the Western Theater, successfully changed from 歼7 to 歼8" which could fit to either the 97th, 99th, 18th, 110th or 112th Brigades.

Is there any additional info on a location given in that video?
 
Must be older images due to the 41x4x serials, which correspond to the former 33rd Division's 99th AR, a unit that is now the 99th Air Brigade:

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By the way, there is an interesting post over there at the SDF by:



老将换老将 西部战区某旅从歼7成功改飞歼8 translated as "Veteran veteran, a brigade in the Western Theater, successfully changed from 歼7 to 歼8" which could fit to either the 97th, 99th, 18th, 110th or 112th Brigades.

Is there any additional info on a location given in that video?
No detail info on location other than Western Theater, flat land and scattering mountains in far away background may indicate somewhere in North West China.
 
No detail info on location other than Western Theater, flat land and scattering mountains in far away background may indicate somewhere in North West China.


Hmm??? In the extreme far-North west there care no J-7 units, the westernmost ones are assigned to the 108th Brigade at Changji or the 112th Brigade at Malan all subordinated to Ürümqi Base.
 
Hmm??? In the extreme far-North west there care no J-7 units, the westernmost ones are assigned to the 108th Brigade at Changji or the 112th Brigade at Malan all subordinated to Ürümqi Base.

Changji is 109th AB**

What is 97th AB and 99th AB? Are these the ones in Shanshan and Golmud? or Aksu and Kashgar?
 
Both the 97th and 99th Brigades as subordinated to Lanzhou Base with the 97th at Dazu and the 99th at Chongqing.
 
Hmm??? In the extreme far-North west there care no J-7 units, the westernmost ones are assigned to the 108th Brigade at Changji or the 112th Brigade at Malan all subordinated to Ürümqi Base.
I was not referring to extreme NW China which is mountainous, , North of Urumqi, Dzungarian Basin is located in North West China and is mostly flat land. Any way, I cannot confirm the location due to lack of info on the video that you mentioned, just that the geography shows large flat land.
 
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Further checking map of China's military theatre, I found that the Western theatre covers central China as well. So this makes locating the base by just referring the geographical feature even more difficult. So I really don't know where it is.

Edit:Deino, you owe me this one. 99 Air brigade is a training brigade located in Zunyi city, Guizhou province, North of Yunan province, according to public information available on Baidu.



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Further checking map of China's military theatre, I found that the Western theatre covers central China as well. So this makes locating the base by just referring the geographical feature even more difficult. So I really don't know where it is.

Edit:Deino, you owe me this one. 99 Air brigade is a training brigade located in Zunyi city, Guizhou province, North of Yunan province, according to public information available on Baidu.



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Are you sure? According to several sources Zunyi hosts a regiment of Y-8s of the 20th Special Division.
 

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