Chinese 5th generation J-20 & J-31 - Pics & Videos

[Black Knight]

what type of proto-type is flying with the J 20 ???????????????

Is it some new block of j10 or else?????????

 

[Black Knight]

What type of j 10 prototype is taking off with j 20????????????????????

 

[Lankan Ranger]

 

[Black Knight]

J 20 is a bigger machine as compare to other two fighters so what engine will it be using to get enough thrust

 

[muslim282]

Good pictures for comparison purposes by Sri-Lankan.

You can see certain similarities between all of them. I don,t think the argument of canards affecting the stealth holds much water otherwise no way would the chinese have put them their in the first place.
What really is amazing is the time and secrecy in which it was all done. I remember certain people on the forum were so damn sure that it would be at least 2015 before china even flew a prototype.
What many people seem to forget is that the massive contribution to R&D coming from the civilian quarters of chinese industry and educational establishments which has given a significant but silent boost to new technologies.
What will now be interesting to see is how Japan and South-Korea react to this.
Will they seek the F-22 for a balance (USA have previously refused), will they make do with the JSF or will they turn to their own industry to seek a home grown answer and hence adding another nation to the 5th gen plane.
The future is interesting.
The future is stealth.

 

[S10]

J 20 is a bigger machine as compare to other two fighters so what engine will it be using to get enough thrust

The current engine is either a local WS-10G or 117S from Russia. Later on it will be replaced by WS-15, producing about 15 to 18 tons of thrust each.

 

[S10]

Can this bird carry more weapons then F22 and T50??????????????????

Judging from its size and length, I think it would be safe to say the internal weapon bay is likely to be larger than F-22 and T-50. On the downside, the PL-12(SD-10) missile is longer than both AIM-120 and R-77.

 

[Manticore]

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[rockstarIN]

No it will be not..its frontal aspect stealth is ruined due to presence of Canards and as far rear aspect is concerned presence of conventional engine outlets ruins it too.

Thought T-50 has clean frontal aspect it does not have S-shaped air intakes(and we are not sure..if J-20 has has them) but from the rear T-50 is equally bad.

Conclusion- F-22 beats them both in stealthiness.

Yes but Russians are saying we can see more changes, even air frame, in the second prototype. Just waiting to see the second T-50

 

[rockstarIN]

time for some learning for me.. just the basics if you will

why having canards is bad?
how does it increase its radar signature. When it has a relatively small size and if has the same RAM coating and shape uniform to the rest of the craft?

Does that make SU-37 Terminator and Euro-fighter bad as well? why do they have canards? If canards help in sharp turns & other swift manoeuvres then what’s wrong with that?

Surely canards cant be as bad as having open weapon bays? Secondly how does an F22 compare without canards?
Does it have something in addition which basically means it can do without canards?

Finally does it suggest that Chinese had a design/ technical barrier which meant that canards were the only (cheap/ easy) option to provide whatever performance benchmarks were set while designing this craft?

Does F-22 raptor have RCS (reaction control system) like space shuttle? Where the nose can be nudged right and left? If there are any jets on the face of the raptor then maybe I am too old notice them.

Finally a layman’s view
Looking at the J-20 side by side with say T-50 or raptor it is clear that the designers have gone for a trade off between how much they “wish” their J-20 to be and what technical & knowledge base they have in addition to the resources. It is hard to match with America which spends about the same or more on its military power than the whole world combined.

What say you?

But the Canards always move in the flight, which, off course will add RCS, no doubt about that. Chinese engineers must have given more thought about it at the design phase anything else and they choose it.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

to be honest. i like j-20 from front and side views.. but PAK-fA looks better on the top and bottom views.
But F_22 takes the overall sexy look price.

 

[S10]

Yes but Russians are saying we can see more changes, even air frame, in the second prototype. Just waiting to see the second T-50

How is that any different than this? You can see it from the front too. J-20 simply moved the horizontal tail vin to the front.

 

[S10]

to be honest. i like j-20 from front and side views.. but PAK-fA looks better on the top and bottom views.
But F_22 takes the overall sexy look price.

If the Russians want to implement all aspect LO capability to their aircraft, they need to flatten that bottom or it's going to be a major source of signal return.

 

[Manticore]

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[Manticore]

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