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  • China’s war drums beat
  • AFP | MAY 17, 2014
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A Vietnamese officer looks towards a Vietnamese Coast Guard ship sailing near China's oil drilling rig in disputed waters in the South China Sea. Source: AFP

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Anti-China protesters wave flags and hold placards on a street outside a factory building in Binh Duong this week. Source: AFP

A STATE-RUN Chinese newspaper yesterday backed the use of “non-peaceful” measures against Vietnam and The Philippines as it considered the possibility of war in the strategically vital South China Sea.

Vietnam is experiencing its worst anti-China unrest in decades following Beijing’s deployment of an oil rig to disputed waters. At least one Chinese worker has been killed and more than 100 have been injured.

Reuters yesterday maintained reports that a doctor at a hospital near one area of rioting said he had seen 21 bodies and that at least 100 people were wounded.

A witness in an industrial zone in the same area said she had seen at least 13 bodies. Demonstrations have spread to 22 of Vietnam’s 63 provinces.

“The South China Sea disputes should be settled in a peaceful manner, but that doesn’t mean China can’t resort to non-peaceful measures in the face of provocation from Vietnam and The Philippines,” said the Global Times .

“Many people believe that a forced war would not convince some countries of China’s sincerely peaceful intentions.”

Beijing claims almost the whole of the South China Sea and Manila has provoked its fury by seeking UN arbitration in the dispute between the two.

China’s Foreign Ministry has condemned both Manila and Hanoi, and accused Vietnam’s leaders of “indulgence and connivance” with anti-China demonstrators for failing to rein in the protests.

At a news conference yesterday, Chinese Commerce Ministry spokesman Shen Danyang warned the riots could have repercussions for Vietnam’s business interests. “The incident has led Chinese companies to stop operations and suffer enormous property losses,” Mr Shen said.

The state-run China Daily weighed in, warning if the violence continued to escalate “it will only add to the distrust and enmity between the Vietnamese and Chinese peoples”.

“The lethal riots are proof that China’s calls for dialogue over the two countries’ conflicting territorial claims in the South China Sea have fallen on deaf ears in Vietnam,” the paper wrote.

“That our restraint has been replied with such bloody violence is intolerable.”

The Xinhua news agency, meanwhile, wrote yesterday that Hanoi “bears unshirkable responsibility for the violent attacks against Chinese companies and nationals, and must ensure the safety of foreign companies and nationals in Vietnam”.

A top Chinese general on Thursday vowed his country would protect the oil rig.

“What we’re going to do is ensure the safety of the oil rig and ensure the operation will keep going on,” General Fang Fenghui, chief of the general staff of the People’s Liberation Army, said after talks at the Pentagon.

Vietnam had sent in ships to try to disrupt the drilling, he said through an interpreter, “and that is something that we are not able to accept”.

Mr Fang said China had shown restraint in the South China Sea and only now had set up an oil rig after other countries in the region had started drilling.

“I don’t believe there is any problem with China doing this drilling activity within its own territorial waters,” the general said.

Vietnam does not recognise the waters as being under Chinese authority. Mr Fang also suggested the US’s strategic “rebalance” to Asia had been exploited by some countries that wanted to check China’s economic power.

While Mr Fang held talks at the Pentagon, the US State Department reiterated its criticism of China’s “provocative” decision to install the oil rig.

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Reuters yesterday maintained reports that a doctor at a hospital near one area of rioting said he had seen 21 bodies and that at least 100 people were wounded.
Thats not right. :mad:
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Why would Vietnam risk war with China? How can it benefit from a war or skirmish? :unsure:
 
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China general went to Pentagon and told US counterpart that they will protect the oil rig with their military force which imply to Vietnam no matter who on Vietnam side won't stop China from asserting their claim in the territory dispute. China general talked to US secretary of defense but direct their assertion toward Vietnam government.

Thats not right. :mad:
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Why would Vietnam risk war with China? How can it benefit from a war or skirmish? :unsure:



Most of the dead probably ethnic Chinese in Vietnam.
 
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China is not the United States. If they have to punish vietnam, they will do so in a manner which would take years for vietnamese govt to figure out. They will twist their economic muscle.
 
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China is not the United States. If they have to punish vietnam, they will do so in a manner which would take years for vietnamese govt to figure out. They will twist their economic muscle.




Good or bad Vietnam can't choose her neighboor why not find away to explore the resource together with China and have 50-50 share of what they find.

When both Vietnam and China relation on a good term, maybe China can offer 60-40 deal to Vietnam, China can get 40% and Vietnam get 60%. I believe Vietnam don't want to cooperate with China and used US to counter China in Asia.
 
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So far I have yet to see China being contained or constrained in any way. Buzzing buzzes, but, that's the nature of things.

The US does not wish to lose face (Obama has lost a lot of face in Asia recently as even reactionary Japan thinks him of a balloon filled with hot air), they will continue to make Vietnam jump high in excitement, but, at the end of the day, things will progress just as nicely.

Collaterals are unavoidable.
 
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Good or bad Vietnam can't choose her neighboor why not find away to explore the resource together with China and have 50-50 share of what they find.

When both Vietnam and China relation on a good term, maybe China can offer 60-40 deal to Vietnam, China can get 40% and Vietnam get 60%. I believe Vietnam don't want to cooperate with China and used US to counter China in Asia.

using enemy of enemy to counter enemy is good tactic. :woot:
 
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using enemy of enemy to counter enemy is good tactic. :woot:


But you need to know your limitation. You can't allow the outsider from far away to manipulate you into fighting against a stronger opponent, the loser will be you and not the one from world away.
 
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Thats not right. :mad:
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Why would Vietnam risk war with China? How can it benefit from a war or skirmish? :unsure:
Wars have no logic at all, it can be started anywhere for any reasons
Actually it follows the chaos theory: what can happen will happen
 
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Atleast China can put up a fight against the Soviet Union during the split. China took part to completely isolate Soviet Union, without a strong economy to support S.U, they eventually collapse from within. China right now won't be isolate from the world economy that you must remember. No matter what, China and US will never risk to fight a war with one another.

China shook hand with the West to help defeat the mighty Soviet Union.
 
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India new premier coming so Chinese government want Chinese people forget the massive land occupied by India?
Is the small islands and little quantity of oil so important?
 
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It is not little. It has trillions in gas and billions in oils. Who want to lose it:p:



Even trillions dollars worth oil in comparision to the stable enviroment for China economy growth in Asia still not worth the time and resource to actully go war over it. China economy can last to 100 yrs of growth but the oils in SCS won't last forever.
 
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