China’s southeastern border ends at Hainan Island: Chinese Emperor’s map

[GeHAC]

In 1930s Japan asserted its nationalism. In 2015s the Chinese are doing the same thing. Every country in SEA is today scared of China and hates the, Disputes with Vietnam, disputes with Malaysia, disputes with Philippines, disputes with Japan. Very soon there will be trouble with Thailand, Myanmar, Singapore, Indonesia as well. You already have contending claims with Indonesia. Almost forgot about Taiwan and the recent Hong Kong crisis.

The country that is rubbing its hands with glee is USA. Philippines had removed US forces and now they are begging America to come to their island once again. There is a saying in India, "pair pe kulhari marna", meaning hitting the axe on your foot. You Chinese have done the same thing. Is patience an alien concept in China?

I just have one question:
If china wants to be a regional dominator,why should its military expenditure just take up 1.3% of its GDP in 2014?

 

[YoucanYouup]

In 1930s Japan asserted its nationalism. In 2015s the Chinese are doing the same thing. Every country in SEA is today scared of China and hates the, Disputes with Vietnam, disputes with Malaysia, disputes with Philippines, disputes with Japan. Very soon there will be trouble with Thailand, Myanmar, Singapore, Indonesia as well. You already have contending claims with Indonesia. Almost forgot about Taiwan and the recent Hong Kong crisis.

The country that is rubbing its hands with glee is USA. Philippines had removed US forces and now they are begging America to come to their island once again. There is a saying in India, "pair pe kulhari marna", meaning hitting the axe on your foot. You Chinese have done the same thing. Is patience an alien concept in China?

As common sense, China has 56 nations.So why would china promote nationalism?
One nation's nationalism means other 55 nations will against.
A 56 nation's nationalism means patriotism. Lol, some people don't even know his name.
Hong kong crisis caused by their nature of capitalism, and they cannot accept the victory of socialism.
I don't care American soldier come to Philippines and enjoy Philippines girls, again, Maybe you will knows the
Chinese idioms : Wait at one's ease for the fatigued 以逸待劳

I just have one question:
If china wants to be a regional dominator,why should its military expenditure just take up 1.3% of its GDP in 2014?

If the amy needs budget, they needs "Chinese threat"

 

[Indian Patriot]

As common sense, China has 56 nations.So why would china promote nationalism?
One nation's nationalism means other 55 nations will against.
A 56 nation's nationalism means patriotism. Lol, some people don't even know his name.
Hong kong crisis caused by their nature of capitalism, and they cannot accept the victory of socialism.
I don't care American soldier come to Philippines and enjoy Philippines girls, again, Maybe you will knows the
Chinese idioms : Wait at one's ease for the fatigued 以逸待劳



If the amy needs budget, they needs "Chinese threat"

What are those 56 chinese nations? And please, there is no victory of socialism. Most likely you are in west now, majority of Chinese have emigrated to west. China is capitalist, not socialist. The class divide in China is as stark as any western capitalist country.

China is not waiting. It is America taking advantage of chinese fatigue.

I just have one question:
If china wants to be a regional dominator,why should its military expenditure just take up 1.3% of its GDP in 2014?

LOL!! How much military do you need to fight small countries like Philippines and Malaysia? Why do you think all these countries have US alliance or US protection?

 

[YoucanYouup]

What are those 56 chinese nations? And please, there is no victory of socialism. Most likely you are in west now, majority of Chinese have emigrated to west. China is capitalist, not socialist. The class divide in China is as stark as any western capitalist country.

China is not waiting. It is America taking advantage of chinese fatigue.



LOL!! How much military do you need to fight small countries like Philippines and Malaysia? Why do you think all these countries have US alliance or US protection?

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You see? You don't even know China has 56 nations,not to mention China is socialist or capitalist.
Socialism is the evolution of capitalism, is the basis of communism, and only in communism can human eliminate class, destroy the aristocratic family.

What are those 56 chinese nations? And please, there is no victory of socialism. Most likely you are in west now, majority of Chinese have emigrated to west. China is capitalist, not socialist. The class divide in China is as stark as any western capitalist country.

China is not waiting. It is America taking advantage of chinese fatigue.



LOL!! How much military do you need to fight small countries like Philippines and Malaysia? Why do you think all these countries have US alliance or US protection?

And, I'm sorry, i have to show you the superiority of socialism by GDP comparison

 

[GeHAC]

What are those 56 chinese nations? And please, there is no victory of socialism. Most likely you are in west now, majority of Chinese have emigrated to west. China is capitalist, not socialist. The class divide in China is as stark as any western capitalist country.

China is not waiting. It is America taking advantage of chinese fatigue.



LOL!! How much military do you need to fight small countries like Philippines and Malaysia? Why do you think all these countries have US alliance or US protection?

China has one of the worst Geo environment in the world,we can't put all our mobile force into a battle.An army directed by offensive strategy is far more expensive than a defensive one.Even our "peaceful" India has a higher military expenditure rate.You just have no concept how much money it takes to build an modern army.

Also,did I say all those countries are under US protection?They are just flip-floppers

The Map of South and East Ocean Sea Routes was drawn in between 1712-1721 by Qing (Ching) Dynasty Fujian (Fuchien) Province Navy Commander Shi Shibiao, the son of a famous early Qing Dynasty Imperial Officer. This map shows clearly the sea routes, time and decriptions from Chinese coastal ports to Japan, Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia,Brunei, Cambodia and the Phinllipines. In this map, the locations and names of the Southern Sea Islands(Nanhai Zhudao) are very accurate. The map shows clearly Chinese sovereignty over the South China　Sea Islands including Nansha Islands, Xisha Islands, Zhongsha Islands and Dongsha Islands.Also note the "long bar area" shown in this map which locates close to the Vietnamese coast, which clearly tells that the so called "Truong Sa" and "Hoang Sa" as shown in the 1838 "Complete Map of Unified Great Nam" are not the Nansha (Spratlys) and Xisha (Paracels) Islands of China at all, but refers to the Pullo Canton near the central Vietnamese coast, which was also once been identified as "dangerous group" and named Paracels before Paracels was used to refer to China's Xisha Islands later in the history.

In Haiguo Jianwen Lu (Records of Sights and Sounds of Overseas States) written by Chen Lunjiong around 1730, the location of Qianli Shitang is described as follows: "South of (Wanli Chang)Sha there emerges strange stone banks all the way to Qizhou Yang. They are called Qianli Shitang. Sihai Zongtu (Comprehensive Map of the Four Seas) is the accompanying map which makes certain that Qianli Shitang refers to the Spratly Islands.

 

[YoucanYouup]

I cannot read Mandarin or Cantonese.

China is not communist or socialist, it is capitalist.

And your economic growth is dependent on US economy and their industries which invest in chinese manufacturing sector. Where will china be without Apple, Boeing, IBM?

the word "族" means nation
so you just need to count.
Socialism is the evolution of capitalism, so Some part they look the same.But you can't judge human or monkey by eye's number

 

[Rechoice]

Europeans know ancient Chinese merchant ships have been to Europe.Vietnam is a province of China＇s time more than Vietnam independent .Vietnam robbed the island of China in China's civil strife.China did not take back our own island.Vietnamese is really shameless

china is provinces of mongolia in the past.

Old map shows Vietnam is part of China. Don't deny it.

china is part of Mongolia, Manchuria.

 

[dichoi]

China has one of the worst Geo environment in the world,we can't put all our mobile force into a battle.An army directed by offensive strategy is far more expensive than a defensive one.Even our "peaceful" India has a higher military expenditure rate.You just have no concept how much money it takes to build an modern army.

Also,did I say all those countries are under US protection?They are just flip-floppers

The Map of South and East Ocean Sea Routes was drawn in between 1712-1721 by Qing (Ching) Dynasty Fujian (Fuchien) Province Navy Commander Shi Shibiao, the son of a famous early Qing Dynasty Imperial Officer. This map shows clearly the sea routes, time and decriptions from Chinese coastal ports to Japan, Laos, Vietnam, Indonesia,Brunei, Cambodia and the Phinllipines. In this map, the locations and names of the Southern Sea Islands(Nanhai Zhudao) are very accurate. The map shows clearly Chinese sovereignty over the South China　Sea Islands including Nansha Islands, Xisha Islands, Zhongsha Islands and Dongsha Islands.Also note the "long bar area" shown in this map which locates close to the Vietnamese coast, which clearly tells that the so called "Truong Sa" and "Hoang Sa" as shown in the 1838 "Complete Map of Unified Great Nam" are not the Nansha (Spratlys) and Xisha (Paracels) Islands of China at all, but refers to the Pullo Canton near the central Vietnamese coast, which was also once been identified as "dangerous group" and named Paracels before Paracels was used to refer to China's Xisha Islands later in the history.

In Haiguo Jianwen Lu (Records of Sights and Sounds of Overseas States) written by Chen Lunjiong around 1730, the location of Qianli Shitang is described as follows: "South of (Wanli Chang)Sha there emerges strange stone banks all the way to Qizhou Yang. They are called Qianli Shitang. Sihai Zongtu (Comprehensive Map of the Four Seas) is the accompanying map which makes certain that Qianli Shitang refers to the Spratly Islands.

do not fabricating here,

there is a map of South East Asia, no where stated that " China territory" in such map related to the disputed Islands.

don't you forget the map of Yuan dynasty？
Russians won't like it

Yuan is Mongolia Empire, this map do not related to Han Chinese today.

 

[carly]

Nine dotted line is china's gain from world war two. China took those islands from Japan. Many islands Vietnam or Philippines occupy used to have ROC army there. Sooner or later, Vietnam and Philippines will pay huge price for their attack on islands of China. Your behavior also gave China the right to take your territories when appropriate.
The West is so hypocrite. When Vietnam and Phillipines started to occupy islands of China in 60s and 70s, the west encouraged it; when China wanted to take them back, the west came out to talk about peace. It is all about geopolitical game.

do not fabricating here,

there is a map of South East Asia, no where stated that " China territory" in such map related to the disputed Islands.



Yuan is Mongolia Empire, this map do not related to Han Chinese today.

It was the founder of Yuan Dynasty Hublaish who claimed Yuan was a Chinese Empire. Yuan strictly followed the tradition of Chinese Dynasty, such as writing histories for former dynasties,paying tribute to Yan-huang tomb, setting up Confucian testing system. The founding of Yuan Dynasty was the root cause of disintegration of Mongol Empire since other Mongol leaders disagreed. The Name Yuan itself came from famous Chinese book Yi Jing.

It is very difficult for Nations states such as Vietnam or Japan to understand Civilization states such as China. In China, if you cannot prove that your regime fits the Chinese culture, the regime cannot unify China or collapse very quickly. Manchu clearly knew this. They even sacrificed their language to establish Qing Dynasty. ROC tried to unify China based on Han Nationalism and never Succeeded. Mao established mao thought, connecting communism with Chinese Culture. He became the leader of CCP in 1935, and he unified China in 1949. It only took him 14 years to unify China, a land much larger than Europe. Strictly it only took him 4 years since 1935-1945 were sino-japan war time. All Chinese regimes who understood the importance of Chinese culture unify China quickly. Han, Tang, Ming, Qing, PRC all finished the unification work with 10-20 years. PRC clearly will have an expansion as those Dynasties. The hostile attitudes Vietnam and Philippines towards China will definitely lead to this.

 

[dichoi]

Nine dotted line is china's gain from world war two. China took those islands from Japan. Many islands Vietnam or Philippines occupy used to have ROC army there. Sooner or later, Vietnam and Philippines will pay huge price for their attack on islands of China. Your behavior also gave China the right to take your territories when appropriate.
The West is so hypocrite. When Vietnam and Phillipines started to occupy islands of China in 60s and 70s, the west encouraged it; when China wanted to take them back, the west came out to talk about peace. It is all about geopolitical game.

Bullying small neighbors is no good.

Islands belong to Vietnam from Ngyen Dynasty. Vietnam controlled Islands officially without troubles with China in the past. in WW IIJapan invaded in to Islands of Vietnam.

Nine dash claim of ROC is from 1948.

It was the founder of Yuan Dynasty Hublaish who claimed Yuan was a Chinese Empire.

Chinese has a habitat to fabricate about your history.

Mongolian invaded in to East Europa, Siberia and conquered China, and ruled chinese. This is truth of history.

Hublaish has been cheeted Chinese that he is chinese and Chinese has been sleeping well. Funny story, isn't it ?

 

[YoucanYouup]

do not fabricating here,

there is a map of South East Asia, no where stated that " China territory" in such map related to the disputed Islands.


Yuan is Mongolia Empire, this map do not related to Han Chinese today.

Yes,but unfortunately, China has 56 nations which including mongolian(蒙古族)，not Only han nation.

Kublai named the empire Yuan（元）come from a 4-thousand-year-ago China ancient books 《The book of changes》（易经）.The book says:""大哉乾元"（means the sky and the world is so huge）,so Kublai choose the 4th word "元" as the dynasty's name .

 

[YoucanYouup]

china is provinces of mongolia in the past.



china is part of Mongolia, Manchuria.

nice joke.You are a great comedian like @IamVietnamese and @Indian Patriot
You are not you because you are only part of you and your clothes Hah.
Gen Gi Khan enfeoffed Mongolia empire as 4 independence khan empire-- Yuan dynasty(The core of Mongolia empire), Khanate of Kipchak khanate,Chagatai Khanate,WoKuoTaiHan and Ilkhanate.

 

[dichoi]

Yes,but unfortunately, China has 56 nations which including mongolian(蒙古族)，not Only han nation.

This is 56 " ethnic group " in China. not " nation ".

Kublai named the empire Yuan（元）come from a 4-thousand-year-ago China ancient books 《The book of changes》（易经）.The book says:""大哉乾元"（means the sky and the world is so huge）,so Kublai choose the 4th word "元" as the dynasty's name .

It is propaganda, political trick of Kublai to cheat Han Chinese. So he could ruled Chinese in time of Yuan Dynasty without resistance.

China was conquered by Mongolia, its truth of history in Asia.

It is very difficult for Nations states such as Vietnam or Japan to understand Civilization states such as China. In China, if you cannot prove that your regime fits the Chinese culture, the regime cannot unify China or collapse very quickly. Manchu clearly knew this. They even sacrificed their language to establish Qing Dynasty. ROC tried to unify China based on Han Nationalism and never Succeeded. Mao established mao thought, connecting communism with Chinese Culture. He became the leader of CCP in 1935, and he unified China in 1949. It only took him 14 years to unify China, a land much larger than Europe. Strictly it only took him 4 years since 1935-1945 were sino-japan war time. All Chinese regimes who understood the importance of Chinese culture unify China quickly. Han, Tang, Ming, Qing, PRC all finished the unification work with 10-20 years. PRC clearly will have an expansion as those Dynasties. The hostile attitudes Vietnam and Philippines towards China will definitely lead to this.

What is hairedo cut in Qing Dynasty which applied for all chinese man in China. It is not related to Chinese civilisation.

 

[haidian]

Yuan and Qing were Chinese dynasties, they adopted every single Chinese ruling system , were completely sinicized .Vietnam was founded by a Chinese and some Indian dynasties were also not established by the locals, you can't say that they were not Vietnamese and Indian dynasties.

 

[dichoi]

Yuan and Qing were Chinese dynasties, they adopted every single Chinese ruling system , were completely sinicized .Vietnam was founded by a Chinese and some Indian dynasties were also not established by the locals, you can't say that they were not Vietnamese and Indian dynasties.

Base on ur analogy, Chinese has been conquered East Europa and part of Middle East.