China's regional jetliner in mass production

[Solomon2]

May Pakistan and China do more joint ventures on such programs.

This aircraft is itself a byproduct of an old jv between McDonnell-Douglas (now part of Boeing) and China to co-produce American MD-90 aircraft in China. The main difference is a new Ukrainian-designed wing. Its avionics and engines are supplied by U.S. companies: link

True and I hope Embraer and Bombardier are moving to bigger planes and leave the market for regional jets to ARJ.

Probably won't happen as China is over a decade late to the party, so to speak, since infrastructure for regional aircraft are now geared towards Embraer and Bombardier products rather than the old MD-90s.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

This aircraft is itself a byproduct of an old jv between McDonnell-Douglas (now part of Boeing) and China to co-produce American MD-90 aircraft in China. The main difference is a new Ukrainian-designed wing. Its avionics and engines are supplied by U.S. companies: link

Probably won't happen as China is over a decade late to the party, so to speak, since infrastructure for regional aircraft are now geared towards Embraer and Bombardier products rather than the old MD-90s.

hwah.... the sourgrape complex is strong in this 1.

FAA only cares about safety, not economics. As long as Chinese aircraft meet US safety standards, the aircraft will get their license.

If China mandates that Chinese airline buy only Chinese-made aircraft, this will definitely be an issue, not only with US, but other countries as well. But I doubt this will happen. It’s in the best interest of Chinese airlines to seek the best aircraft, at the best price. This means having more options on the table, not less.

as long as Boeing's market share is concerned- there will always 'be that 1 screw missing' on the ARJ that dont meet US FAA safety requirements

 

[cloud4000]

hwah.... the sourgrape complex is strong in this 1.


as long as Boeing's market share is concerned- there will always 'be that 1 screw missing' on the ARJ that dont meet US FAA safety requirements

If the FAA plays such a 'game' with the ARJ, or any other foreign manufacturer, the same can happen to Boeing elsewhere. Who wins then? Definitely not Boeing.

 

[Solomon2]

hwah.... the sourgrape complex is strong in this 1.

Not at all. The manufacturer will simply have to make the case that what is essentially a thirty year old design can compete with more modern products from established competitors.

as long as Boeing's market share is concerned- there will always 'be that 1 screw missing' on the ARJ that dont meet US FAA safety requirements

Since the FAA certified the Brazilians I don't see why it wouldn't do the same for the Chinese. And it is a likely a "plus" that most of the aircraft is based on a previously FAA-certified product.

 

[武成王]

ARJ and C919 are designed primarily for China domestic market, it's estimated that China will spend roughly $670 billions to acquire more than 5500 aircrafts in the next 20 years. 1/3 of the capacity should be filled with indigenous airplanes.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

This aircraft is itself a byproduct of an old jv between McDonnell-Douglas (now part of Boeing) and China to co-produce American MD-90 aircraft in China. The main difference is a new Ukrainian-designed wing. Its avionics and engines are supplied by U.S. companies: link

Probably won't happen as China is over a decade late to the party, so to speak, since infrastructure for regional aircraft are now geared towards Embraer and Bombardier products rather than the old MD-90s.

ok dont cherry pick n link the whole section for all to read here pls.

Thanks.

I repeat: the sourgrape complex in your post is trong that i can taste it even from here on my desktop.

 

[VCheng]

Not at all. The manufacturer will simply have to make the case that what is essentially a thirty year old design can compete with more modern products from established competitors.

Since the FAA certified the Brazilians I don't see why it wouldn't do the same for the Chinese. And it is a likely a "plus" that most of the aircraft is based on a previously FAA-certified product.

The DC-9 first flew in 1965.

 

[Viet]

Bigger planes are always more economical IF they can be filled.


True and I hope Embraer and Bombardier are moving to bigger planes and leave the market for regional jets to ARJ.

The planes are filled. So will the new purchased birds. VN economy is expected to grow by 9 percent next year, but the aviation market grows faster, by 30 percent. As said VietJet alone recently buys 180 aircraft. Let’s say the company wants to buy additional 100 planes, the question is why should we buy Chinese planes if they cost as much as Boeing or airbus? If you offer 50 percent discount I think we can go.

https://www.biznews.com/wealth-buil...ms-spectacular-return-economic-success-zille/

 

[Solomon2]

The DC-9 first flew in 1965.

True, but the co-produced MD-90 was a considerably upgraded product from the original DC-9.

 

[VCheng]

True, but the co-produced MD-90 was a considerably upgraded product from the original DC-9.

Of course. And the present platform is a further upgrade of sorts.

 

[nang2]

Probably won't happen as China is over a decade late to the party, so to speak, since infrastructure for regional aircraft are now geared towards Embraer and Bombardier products rather than the old MD-90s.

Party is still ongoing so it can never be late. Things change so there is always some new opportunity popping up from time to time.

 

[武成王]

The planes are filled. So will the new purchased birds. VN economy is expected to grow by 9 percent next year, but the aviation market grows faster, by 30 percent. As said VietJet alone recently buys 180 aircraft. Let’s say the company wants to buy additional 100 planes, the question is why should we buy Chinese planes if they cost as much as Boeing or airbus? If you offer 50 percent discount I think we can go.

https://www.biznews.com/wealth-buil...ms-spectacular-return-economic-success-zille/

大越国 should go to Boeing or Airbus for 大 birds, ours is small bird.

 

[nang2]

The planes are filled. So will the new purchased birds. VN economy is expected to grow by 9 percent next year, but the aviation market grows faster, by 30 percent. As said VietJet alone recently buys 180 aircraft. Let’s say the company wants to buy additional 100 planes, the question is why should we buy Chinese planes if they cost as much as Boeing or airbus? If you offer 50 percent discount I think we can go.

https://www.biznews.com/wealth-buil...ms-spectacular-return-economic-success-zille/

For sure, if you can fill a plane with 200 seats, there is no point of buying one with 90 seats.

 

[Super Falcon]

PIA Should order few C 919 it looks far better than ugly j series airliner

 

[MultaniGuy]

That isn’t nice considering terrible crimes the Germans committed to the Jews. Shame on you.

Of course USA fears a rising China. It is not in their interests to see any other society rise on the world stage.

Well too bad, China is going to be on the world stage.