China's Race for Artificial Intelligence (AI) Technology

[cloud4000]

Nowadays, US technology are developed by imported immigrants, the only pride for immigrants to work for US is moneys and better living life and not for the glory of USA: when US is playing up proxie and stir up trouble for these immigrant's respective nation, which immigrant willing to dedicate his life and do extra hard work for US?

A nation strength is relied on their own population but US is relied on immigrants for their scientific and innovation, for immigrant helping US innovation is like add insult to injury: US is hostile to their nation and expect them to help innovate USA? ...what a big joke of 21st century.

I can't believe an 'Elite Member' wrote this.

Immigrants always played a part in America's leadership and will continue to do so because they are still coming, even from countries, that you claim, US is stirring up trouble. Regardless, they work hard and are succeeding. And long as there are opportunities, they will come to the US.

Those Chinese who are remaining or returning in China are doing so because they are seeing better opportunities there. But there are also many Chinese who continue to leave and go elsewhere, especially scientists and engineers.

I blame globalization for this.

 

[LeGenD]

Nowadays, US technology are developed by imported immigrants, the only pride for immigrants to work for US is moneys and better living life and not for the glory of USA: when US is playing up proxie and stir up trouble for these immigrant's respective nation, which immigrant willing to dedicate his life and do extra hard work for US?

A nation strength is relied on their own population but US is relied on immigrants for their scientific and innovation, for immigrant helping US innovation is like add insult to injury: US is hostile to their nation and expect them to help innovate USA? ...what a big joke of 21st century.

US is a nation of immigrants, my friend.

In 2015, 1.38 million foreign-born individuals moved to the United States, a 2 percent increase from 1.36 million in 2014. India was the leading country of origin for recent immigrants, with 179,800 arriving in 2015, followed by 143,200 from China, 139,400 from Mexico, 47,500 from the Philippines, and 46,800 from Canada. In 2013, India and China overtook Mexico as the top origin countries for recent arrivals.

You can find ample information here: http://www.migrationpolicy.org/arti...tics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states

American natives are relatively few in number at present. The bulk of population is comprised of European settlers since 14th century. Here: http://www.americaslibrary.gov/jb/colonial/jb_colonial_subj.html

Donald Trump suspended immigration from seven states such as Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen - Iraq was dropped from the list recently. And this suspension is temporary - 120 days in duration. Here: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...travel-ban-muslim-majority-countries-refugees

This suspension plan doesn't make much difference on the ground since Indians and Chinese are major contributors of talent from among the immigrants.

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Anyhow, US is powerful due to its institutions - they really work as intended. Nationality of workforce means little.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I can't believe an 'Elite Member' wrote this.

Immigrants always played a part in America's leadership and will continue to do so because they are still coming, even from countries, that you claim, US is stirring up trouble. Regardless, they work hard and are succeeding. And long as there are opportunities, they will come to the US.

Those Chinese who are remaining or returning in China are doing so because they are seeing better opportunities there. But there are also many Chinese who continue to leave and go elsewhere, especially scientists and engineers.

I blame globalization for this.

US like paint itself as wonderland for Immigrant people but deep inside the hearts of immigrants people said otherwise, sure they will have to continue to work for living in US but don't expect them to do extra effort just for the sake or glory of USA. And people feel resentful toward US for supporting other nations against their native homeland or directly attack their countries.

I don't think you will be difference: if US decide helping Pakistan to wage war against India, are Indian immigrants will still in love with US ? or vice-versa Pakistanis people wont appreciate neither if US did the same to them.


Sure China is not perfect, otherwise we wouldn't have over 50+ millions immigrants outside of China and Taiwan, but with all Chinese around the world + Taiwan +Mainland, we form a "realm" just for ourself in which we call "the Chinese connection"...and China's prosperity today is all thanks to Chinese connection.

 

[Clutch]

If it wasn't for all the foreign and Asians influx into America and American universities... American innovation and lead in advanced technologies including AI would have long fallen off. Trump's hopefully 8 years may completely reverse that trend.

 

[wiseone2]

non-Chinese will flock to USA.
American companies - Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple are rich, well-run and powerful

 

[Beast]

non-Chinese will flock to USA.
American companies - Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple are rich, well-run and powerful

Fact is Chinese is an important source of contribution to American innovation which they can't touch now since they created the yellow peril to shoot their own foot.

China innovation hardly involved foreigner or non Chinese. The world fastest super computer. Quantum computer and satellite. And yet, China still managed to produce world beating items with just their own pool of race.

 

[wiseone2]

Fact is Chinese is an important source of contribution to American innovation which they can't touch now since they created the yellow peril to shoot their own foot.

China innovation hardly involved foreigner or non Chinese. The world fastest super computer. Quantum computer and satellite. And yet, China still managed to produce world beating items with just their own pool of race.

USA is a world class power because of skilled immigrants

 

[F-22Raptor]

If it wasn't for all the foreign and Asians influx into America and American universities... American innovation and lead in advanced technologies including AI would have long fallen off. Trump's hopefully 8 years may completely reverse that trend.

Oh really? Is that why US born Americans have won over 200 Nobel Prizes in the Sciences? How many Nobel Prizes has your people won?

 

[kuge]

of course you would hire someone smarter than you are, wouldnt you?

 

[Beast]

Oh really? Is that why US born Americans have won over 200 Nobel Prizes in the Sciences? How many Nobel Prizes has your people won?

Then why US cant beat China supercomputer for so many years with so many Nobel prize winner?

of course you would hire someone smarter than you are, wouldnt you?

Smart people will not be easy under control.

 

[Nan Yang]

Oh really? Is that why US born Americans have won over 200 Nobel Prizes in the Sciences? How many Nobel Prizes has your people won?

What? Awarding a communist ? What message would that send ?

 

[F-22Raptor]

Then why US cant beat China supercomputer for so many years with so many Nobel prize winner?


Smart people will not be easy under control.

The US didn't lack the technological capability, but the investment necessary to build such computers. This is why in 2014 the US invested several hundred million in the CORAL initiative to develop next gen supercomputers. Two of those, Sierra(120-150 petaflops) and Summit(150-300 petaflops), are expected to be delivered within the next 6-12 months.

The US DOE also just awarded $258 million to AMD, Cray, HP, IBM, Intel, and NVidia to develop an exascale supercomputer with a further $150 million in their own money. The first US exascale supercomputer is expected in 2021.

Also in the field of quantum computing, Google has announced they expect to achieve "quantum supremacy" with a 49 qubit chip by the end of the year. They are currently testing a 20 qubit chip. This will be a huge breakthrough in quantum computing.

 

[Beast]

The US didn't lack the technological capability, but the investment necessary to build such computers. This is why in 2014 the US invested several hundred million in the CORAL initiative to develop next gen supercomputers. Two of those, Sierra(120-150 petaflops) and Summit(150-300 petaflops), are expected to be delivered within the next 6-12 months.

The US DOE also just awarded $258 million to AMD, Cray, HP, IBM, Intel, and NVidia to develop an exascale supercomputer with a further $150 million in their own money. The first US exascale supercomputer is expected in 2021.

Also in the field of quantum computing, Google has announced they expect to achieve "quantum supremacy" with a 49 qubit chip by the end of the year. They are currently testing a 20 qubit chip. This will be a huge breakthrough in quantum computing.

Once again. US are slow. China exascale computer will debut in 2018. It does not matter, we dont have nobel prize. Cos most of the judges are prejudice against China. Fact is we beat you anytime, anywhere.

 

[F-22Raptor]

Once again. US are slow. China exascale computer will debut in 2018. It does not matter, we dont have nobel prize. Cos most of the judges are prejudice against China. Fact is we beat you anytime, anywhere.

The judges are prejudice? Is this the best excuse you can come up with for a lack of scientific breakthroughs relative to the US? The CCP sure seemed happy when Tu Youyou won her Nobel Prize.

Isn't that supercomputer expected to be a pre-exascale/prototype in 2018? Regardless, the US is greatly expanding its supercomputing capabilities over the next several years.

You beat us "anytime, anywhere." Did you beat us to the Moon? Venus, Mercury? How about Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn? Or Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto? Oh that's right, China has never even been to another planet.

Did you create the Internet, or jumpstart the Information Age? Did you whip us in Rio last year? How about the smartphone revolution?

Once again Beast, your stuck in your own alternate reality.

 

[Beast]

The judges are prejudice? Is this the best excuse you can come up with for a lack of scientific breakthroughs relative to the US? The CCP sure seemed happy when Tu Youyou won her Nobel Prize.

Isn't that supercomputer expected to be a pre-exascale/prototype in 2018? Regardless, the US is greatly expanding its supercomputing capabilities over the next several years.

You beat us "anytime, anywhere." Did you beat us to the Moon? Venus, Mercury? How about Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn? Or Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto? Oh that's right, China has never even been to another planet.

Did you create the Internet, or jumpstart the Information Age? Did you whip us in Rio last year? How about the smartphone revolution?

Once again Beast, your stuck in your own alternate reality.

LOL. Looks like some get angry? That is not an excuse but facts. When is you last time go to moon? 1972? Can US go to moon in few years time? No. You US even need Russia permission to go to ISS. What a shame. If I am Putin, I will use space to force US to submit. Too bad, he is too soft heart to use this option. If China and US goes on same technology timeline. I am sure China will beat US hands down. US is lucky after WWII not to have any political turmoil. China technology advances really start only in 1980. The one who refused to accept the reality is you.

You have to accept US technology is in decline. While China technology break thru is happening everyday. You shall ask your federal to cut down on overseas misadventure. US shall go back to its days of isolation and better make use of the sacred money to better invest in technology advancement.