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China's princelings break their silence

John Garnaut, October 17, 2011

WHEN Ma Xiaoli arrived this month at the Hall of Many Sages with the sister of China's likely next president, she had no intention of speaking what was on her mind. After all, the Chinese Communist Party usually does not permit disgruntled citizens to gather in large numbers and challenge the party line.

But as she heard other children of former leaders push back at what they saw as the party's moral decay, its attack on civil society and its revival of destructive Cultural Revolution politics, she found that when she started talking she could not stop.

''The Communist Party is like a surgeon who has cancer,'' Ms Ma told this almost unprecedented unofficial gathering of powerful families that took place in a conference room at the China World Trade Centre on October 6. ''It can't remove the tumour by itself, it needs help from others, but without help it can't survive for long.''

Ms Ma was able to dispense with discretion because of her father's prestige as a leading revolutionary and because her family has long been intertwined with other elite families represented in that room, especially that of the anointed next president, Xi Jinping. The gathering was the starkest demonstration to date of how ''princelings'' are networking and rallying to influence personnel and ideology ahead of Mr Xi replacing Hu Jintao at the helm of the Communist Party at it's five-yearly congress a year from now.

Princelings are taking sides in the battleground of ideologies and interests but they are united, it seems, by a conviction that their party has lost its way.

''In today's China we are facing tremendous challenges that range from the rapid decline of moral standards, to poisonous and genetically modified food, to rampant official corruption,'' Ye Xiangzhen, daughter of Marshal Ye Jianying, who had emerged from the Cultural Revolution as the most important figure in the People's Liberation Army, said. The Ye family remains one of China's most powerful in both politics and business.

The event was ostensibly a private tribute to the leaders who had closed the door on the Cultural Revolution exactly 35 years before by arresting the widow of Chairman Mao Zedong and three other radical politburo members who were later labelled ''the gang of four''.

All the major figures of that momentous historical disjunction were represented by their children including the then party chief Hua Guofeng, Marshal Ye, Mao's chief bodyguard, Wang Dongxing, and Li Xiannian, who was later promoted to president. Also present that evening were children of the then head of China's intelligence network, the Navy and assorted vice-premiers, ministers and generals.

Marshal Ye's nephew, a powerful princeling in his own right called Ye Xuanji, hosted the event and highlighted the unsung achievements of Mao's successor, Hua Guofeng. Assisting him was Hu Deping, the eldest son of Hu Yaobang, who was the famously open-minded Communist Party boss who mentored a team of promising cadres in the 1980s, including the current president.

Hu Deping highlighted absurdities of contemporary Chinese politics including the fact that the phrase ''civil society'' has now been banned from mainstream media discourse.

''Their motive was that there are more and more people claiming they can use methods from the Cultural Revolution to solve the problems of contemporary China,'' Wu Si, editor of the party history magazine Yanhuang Chunqiu, said.

''They felt they need another force to fight back and balance the voices,'' Mr Wu, who was at the gathering, said. ''But it went further than that: there were very strong voices calling for democracy and rule of law and bringing the party under supervision.''

Lu De, whose father Lu Dingyi had headed the propaganda department, told the gathering that party and government officials spend a third of all government revenue on their own luxury cars, travel, healthcare, banquets and other perks.

''And yet we still call it the Communist Party and socialism,'' he said.

Ma Xiaoli, whose father headed the party school and was the boss of Shaanxi province, said Mr Lu's comments had prompted her to break her silence. ''In the '80s when the party faced criticism we defended it and explained its actions,'' she said.

''In the '90s we sympathised with the critics but today we almost want to join them.''

She went as far as to hold up the example of Taiwan's Chiang Ching-kuo, who she said had transformed dictatorship into a prosperous democracy.

Ms Ma had arrived at the conference together with Mr Xi's elder sister, Xi Qianping. Her father, Ma Wenrui, had been a close ally of Xi Jinping's father, Xi Zhongxun, since the 1940s.

Her father owed his job as head of the party school to Hua Guofeng and Hu Yaobang and she later worked with Mr Hu's son, Hu Deping, at the united front department.

Hu Yaobang's family, in turn, had helped shelter the Xi family after the Cultural Revolution, while Marshal Ye engineered Xi Zhongxun's appointment as party boss of Guangdong province and probably helped secure a career-building military post for his son Xi Jinping.

Rounding the circle, Ms Xi went to school with Marshal Ye's daughter Ye Xiangzhen. Clearly, Xi Jinping, currently vice-president, owes a great deal to the families of both Marshal Ye and Hu Yaobang, who are now taking a stand.

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Ah yes, the "Taizidang". :lol:

As happens everywhere, being politically powerful often has more to do with "guanxi", than with actual abilities. Look at George Bush... his father was the President, his brother the Governor, the Supreme court judges were the ones who were appointed by his father...

I just hope Xi Jinping knows what he is doing.
 
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Poor attempt to troll old man. I actually think criticism and disagreement over the future course of the country at all level (even the elite) is a sign that China is thinking about the problem.

The same goes with those protests against chemical plants and lead pollution. DAIGF already.
 
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Ah yes, the "Taizidang". :lol:

As happens everywhere, being politically powerful often has more to do with "guanxi", than with actual abilities. Look at George Bush... his father was the President, his brother the Governor, the Supreme court judges were the ones who were appointed by his father...

His brother was Gov. of Florida (Jeb Bush). Yes, we expect "princelings" in a "capitalist" society, such as the USA, where wealth and Ivy League cliques are rampant. However, in the People's Republic of China, it seems more hypocritical for hereditary power to be growing, n'est-ce pas?
 
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Seeing she is speaking out against corruption is it fair to use the Taizidang lable?

Speaking out against moral decline and corruption i would have thought was a good thing for any society.
 
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His brother was Gov. of Florida (Jeb Bush). Yes, we expect "princelings" in a "capitalist" society, such as the USA, where wealth and Ivy League cliques are rampant. However, in the People's Republic of China, it seems more hypocritical for hereditary power to be growing, n'est-ce pas?

Good to know that you hold China to a higher standard than your own country.
 
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Surprised you didn't call me an old "white" man .... I thought it was interesting. If you think it is trolling, then you are overly sensitive.

Don't think I ever brought race into things, you sir are confusing me to someone else or stereotyping, which is kind of racist of itself.
 
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Seeing she is speaking out against corruption is it fair to use the Taizidang lable?

Speaking out against moral decline and corruption i would have thought was a good thing for any society.

Not with the state police though.

 
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Poor attempt to troll old man. I actually think criticism and disagreement over the future course of the country at all level (even the elite) is a sign that China is thinking about the problem.

The same goes with those protests against chemical plants and lead pollution. DAIGF already.

Yes, sort of like the mass protests in Dalian. :tup:

Definitely a positive sign, that the Government is being more responsive to the demands of the citizens.
 
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His brother was Gov. of Florida (Jeb Bush). Yes, we expect "princelings" in a "capitalist" society, such as the USA, where wealth and Ivy League cliques are rampant. However, in the People's Republic of China, it seems more hypocritical for hereditary power to be growing, n'est-ce pas?

China has had a market economy for 30 years. :wave:

What, did you seriously think that a "Communist economy" would be able to beat all the other major economies in terms of growth rates? Because that is what the Chinese economy is doing.

Seeing she is speaking out against corruption is it fair to use the Taizidang lable?

Speaking out against moral decline and corruption i would have thought was a good thing for any society.

Buddy I think you misunderstand the definition of Taizidang, and I was not applying it to her.

Taizidang is an (often derogatory) label that is applied to many politicians, such as the next leader of China, Xi Jinping. It means "Princeling faction".
 
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Yes, so long for American "free media" and "freedom of press".

That is blatantly a device bought for the sole purpose of denying journalistic accountability and transparency with regards to police actions. How do they justify that?
 
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