China's population to near 1.4 billion by 2015

[Nahraf]

Infact right now, anyone can go to the doctors and get sterilized.

The women in Italy, Greece, Korea, Japan, Taiwan etc. had high birthrates but now they are below replacement levels. In some some countries population is falling while some are growing only due to immigration. Prosperity and women education and employment brings lower birth rate in most cases. You cannot have sterilization programs. programs.

But there would be a propblem. The chinese would out number Australians then our country would no longer be Australia.

Before you were concerned about population and now you are concerned about keeping the current ethnic structure of Australia.

 

[r3alist]

i think the chinese will start moving people into africa, it will be a good move!!!

 

[xdrive]

The women in Italy, Greece, Korea, Japan, Taiwan etc. had high birthrates but now they are below replacement levels. In some some countries population is falling while some are growing only due to immigration. Prosperity and women education and employment brings lower birth rate in most cases. You cannot have sterilization programs. programs.

We don't have a sterilization program. But you can go get sterilized if you want.

Before you were concerned about population and now you are concerned about keeping the current ethnic structure of Australia.

Stop trying to turn this into a discussion about Australia. This is about Chinas population.

 

[mike05]

You are the one trying to connect what i am saying with the nazis.

What i am saying has nothing to do with the nazis and is in no way connected to them.

Participants in a sterilization program would be VOLUNTARY of course, as i said in my original post.

Infact right now, anyone can go to the doctors and get sterilized. Remember, kids are not always born on purpose, some are accidents.



But there would be a propblem. The chinese would out number Australians then our country would no longer be Australia.

We do have a high immigration of Chinese people into out country at the moment.

The China government has already implemented population control of the 1 child policy, are we suggesting they implement a no child policy? Of course every government would love to control their population at a flick of a switch but its easier said then done, least the one child policy was implemented with some success. Name one country that can do something similar without inciting social unrest? Also I don't see how bringing up the mention of sterilization help in this discussion (voluntary or not) unless by some miracle everyone decides to go for it because we all damn well know only people in exceptional circumstances consider such an option.

Also is Australia supposed to be made up of native Aborigines or descendants of the early British settlers? I would have thought that an Australian is someone (regardless of race) who respects the country and is willing to fight for its rights.

 

[Ibr0kEmYrAz0r]

How are my replies selfish?

Lol nothing i have said is bad, infact the ideas is suggested are already implemented in african countries to control population.

I don't know why your acting like i have said something offensive.

I think because you said something like "cut population" - it's not like "cut" crops you know, real human beings we are talking about here - which is why your comments made people felt uneasy. Maybe your intention had no ill will, but the implementation of wording needs to be desired.

Personally I also think, with half the the population China has right now, it will be stronger. However too late now, you just cannot "cut" people when they are already born. Your so-called "cutting" won't work, how many population needs to be reduced to achieve the desired effects, that's gonna be hundreds of millions?

China has already faced with an aging population with one-child policy, with ZERO-child policy, it gonna be insane! It will make the whole population grow older, literally killing off hundreds of millions families, as there are not going to be any descendants for them. As for sterilisation program, after having one child, the couples already have the options to go for that, the doctors are already way ahead of you. But sterilisation program on couples with no children is just a step too far, what if they do want children late in their lives? too many social and medical problems, even the IVF programs are expensive and carrying risks. Therefore doctors are actually against your zero-child sterilisation program.

 

[Ibr0kEmYrAz0r]

The percentage of young people among the whole population have already been reducing comparing to decades ago. Place like Shanghai has been experiencing negative population growth in the last 10 years - young couples just choose not having babies, no need some silly sterile program to enforce on that.

Make no mistake, China has been managing the population growth in the last 30 years with 1 child policy, which attracted a lot of foreign criticism back in the 80s and 90s, mainly from Christian countries. Now, suddenly people like you from the western world think you can solve a problem by letting other countries deal with it; well, I bet some human rights campaigners will shout the "nazi" slogan the minute China decides to try out a state-wide sterilisation program, the act to deny one's fertility is a crime against human race. People with sound mind will just not have children if they decide, no need for some bureaucratic sterile program that will get abused and misused, and inevitably creates tension and defiance due to human nature. Humans NEED to propagate, we just need to find new forms of energy sources.

Like someone said, perhaps by migrating 100 million Chinese into Australia, will ease the tension. Not only that, educate them, teach them Australian values, and make them become law-binding productive Australian citizens, will surely make Australia greater in the future.

You see, if Australia is really a free and liberal country as you claimed, irrespective people's races, you would embrace the idea. But in reality, you would not, because it would affect your quality of life tremendously, and the white people will become an ethnic minority group. You won't do that, in fact no country on earth will do that, cos resources are scarce; and at the end of the day, it's every man for themselves, and let others to deal with the problem.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well if they need more land they can always reclaim some from India in west side , I am sure it would be possible , which technically was disputed , I think there is some ppl called Moist or someting trying to go back to China

China needs more land for growth -

 

[Gin ka Pakistan]

by 2025 the develop world will have majority as old pensioners , I think China should revise its one child policy to two Child to have more young workers to meet world demand of young hearts.
What will Japan and Russia do by 2030 one has no time to make babies and the other no will.

 

[xdrive]

I think because you said something like "cut population" - it's not like "cut" crops you know, real human beings we are talking about here - which is why your comments made people felt uneasy. Maybe your intention had no ill will, but the implementation of wording needs to be desired.

Personally I also think, with half the the population China has right now, it will be stronger. However too late now, you just cannot "cut" people when they are already born. Your so-called "cutting" won't work, how many population needs to be reduced to achieve the desired effects, that's gonna be hundreds of millions?

China has already faced with an aging population with one-child policy, with ZERO-child policy, it gonna be insane! It will make the whole population grow older, literally killing off hundreds of millions families, as there are not going to be any descendants for them. As for sterilisation program, after having one child, the couples already have the options to go for that, the doctors are already way ahead of you. But sterilisation program on couples with no children is just a step too far, what if they do want children late in their lives? too many social and medical problems, even the IVF programs are expensive and carrying risks. Therefore doctors are actually against your zero-child sterilisation program.

I know you can't cut people when they are already born. I never said that and you obviously didn't read my post.

You can cut a population by reducing births. If you do that, the population will reduce when people naturally die.

Also i never said anything about a Zero child policy. I invite you to re read my post once again.

A sterilization program would be setup where anyone BY THEIR OWN CHOICE can come and get sterilized for free so they don't have children. Remember, people don't always have children on purpose, alot are accidents and each time you have unprotected sex, it's a gamble.

 

[below_freezing]

I know you can't cut people when they are already born. I never said that and you obviously didn't read my post.

You can cut a population by reducing births. If you do that, the population will reduce when people naturally die.

Also i never said anything about a Zero child policy. I invite you to re read my post once again.

A sterilization program would be setup where anyone BY THEIR OWN CHOICE can come and get sterilized for free so they don't have children. Remember, people don't always have children on purpose, alot are accidents and each time you have unprotected sex, it's a gamble.

i love this guy. he talks about human rights, and pollution, and greenhouse gases, while also talking about "cutting" chinese people.

do you realize that the US with a population 1/4 that of china produces more pollution? so why do you not suggest that americans cut THEIR population? Why do you not suggest that australians stop munching so many burgers and reducing per capita pollution? hypocrites.

the more laughable thing is "if china cut its population its economy would be stronger". how do you know? are you an economist? per capita income doesn't go up when population goes down, the relationship is not linear, since less people have less ability to produce wealth.

thanks though for showing your racism.

 

[Ahmad]

that is scary, the globe is exploding. limited resources are running out and population is rocketing sky high, be prepared for more wars and bloodshed.

 

[below_freezing]

population is not the problem, fatass americans are. one american eats as much as 10 africans, get rid of the americans and the globe can support much more people. the US is the greatest military and environmental threat to the global community.

remember, USA is 3rd largest in population, why do we never hear about US needing population reduction?

 

[Ahmad]

population is not the problem, fatass americans are. one american eats as much as 10 africans, get rid of the americans and the globe can support much more people. the US is the greatest military and environmental threat to the global community.

remember, USA is 3rd largest in population, why do we never hear about US needing population reduction?

lets dont condemn the US for everything, they have done things wrong, but it doesnt mean they are wrong altoghether. if they have more food to eat it is because they have brain to produce more food, they are inteligent, they have technology, sceintists, capability etc. can you honestly compare 1.4b chineese with 300m americans(in terms of number)? you need to remeber the sizes of these 2 countries as well.

 

[Areesh]

Well if they need more land they can always reclaim some from India in west side , I am sure it would be possible , which technically was disputed , I think there is some ppl called Moist or someting trying to go back to China

China needs more land for growth -

Exactly. I also agree with you. China should implement this policy. They need land and they should take what is rightfully belongs to them.

 

[Guynextdoor]

You can cut the population by implementing programs that will reduce births, such as making alot of women sterile (by there own wish of course) if you reduce births, the population will go down as people naturally die.

N u think they haven't done that Already? Hell theirs is the most reigid pop control policy in the world (the one chld policy).