China's Picturesque Tibet Autonomous Region: News & Images

[TheNoob]

I wouldnt completely trust a western source on any chinese matter. new or old.

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

******** feeling the heat of their crimes against humanity in Kashmir and north eastern states.

How many have they killed during their annexations and illegal occupations in all the states?

Pathetic attempt to start an insulting session against China. The thread must be closed.

 

[Jlaw]

A Writer’s Quest to Unearth the Roots of Tibet’s Unrest.
August 14, 2016
Sinosphere
By LUO SILIN
New York Times

The trouble actually started in the Tibetan regions of nearby Chinese provinces — Yunnan, Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu, home to about 60 percent of the Tibetan population. When the Chinese Communists forced collectivization on these Tibetan nomads and farmers in the latter half of the 1950s, the results were catastrophic. Riots and rebellions spread like wildfire. The Communists responded with military force, and there were terrible massacres. Refugees streamed into Tibet, bringing their horror stories into Lhasa.
Some of the most frightening reports had to do with the disappearances of Tibetan leaders in Sichuan and Qinghai. It was party policy to try to pre-empt Tibetan rebellion by luring prominent Tibetans from their communities with invitations to banquets, shows or study classes — from which many never returned. People in Lhasa thought the Dalai Lama could be next.
You’ve documented the massacres of Tibetans in the Chinese provinces in the late 1950s.
In 2012, I drove across Qinghai to a remote place an elderly Tibetan refugee in India had told me about: a ravine where a flood one year brought down a torrent of skeletons, clogging the Yellow River. From his description, I identified the location as Drongthil Gully, in the mountains of Tsolho Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. I had read in Chinese sources about major campaigns against Tibetans in that area in 1958 and 1959. About 10,000 Tibetans — entire families with their livestock — had fled to the hills there to escape the Chinese. At Drongthil Gully, the Chinese deployed six ground regiments, including infantry, cavalry and artillery, and something the Tibetans had never heard of: aircraft with 100-kilogram bombs. The few Tibetans who were armed — the head of a nomad household normally carried a gun to protect his herds — shot back, but they were no match for the Chinese, who recorded that more than 8,000 “rebel bandits” were “annihilated” — killed, wounded or captured — in these campaigns.
I wondered about the skeletons until I saw the place for myself, and then it seemed entirely plausible. The river at the bottom of the ravine there flows into a relatively narrow section of the Yellow River. In desolate areas like this, Chinese troops were known to withdraw after a victory, leaving the ground littered with corpses.

The Tibetans in Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai were already under nominal Chinese administration when the Communists took over in 1949. How was Tibet annexed?
It was Mao’s goal from the moment he came to power. Tibet “is strategically located,” he said in January 1950, “and we must occupy it and transform it into a people’s democracy.”
He started by sending troops to invade Tibet at Chamdo in October 1950, forcing the Tibetans to sign the 17-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet, which ceded Tibetan sovereignty to China. Next, the People’s Liberation Army marched into Lhasa in 1951, at the same time — in disregard of the Chinese promise in the agreement to leave the Tibetan sociopolitical system intact — smuggling an underground Communist Party cell into the city to build a party presence in Tibet.
Meanwhile, Mao was preparing his military and awaiting the right moment to strike. “Our time has come,” he declared in March 1959, seizing on the demonstrations in Lhasa. After conquering the city, China dissolved the Tibetan government and — under the slogan of “simultaneous battle and reform” — imposed the full Communist program throughout Tibet, culminating in the establishment of the Tibet Autonomous Region in 1965.
How did Mao prepare his military for Tibet?
Mao welcomed the campaigns to suppress minority uprisings within China’s borders as practice for war in Tibet. There were new weapons for his troops to master, to say nothing of the unfamiliar challenges of battle on the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau.
The new weapons included 10 Tupolev TU-4 bombers, which Stalin gave Mao in 1953. Mao tested them in airstrikes at three Tibetan monasteries in Sichuan, starting with Jamchen Choekhor Ling, in Lithang. On March 29, 1956, while thousands of Chinese troops fought Tibetans at the monastery, two of the new planes were deployed. The Tibetans saw giant “birds” approach and drop some strange objects, but they had no word for airplane, or for bomb. According to Chinese records, more than 2,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” in the battle, including civilians who had sought refuge in the monastery.

Mao used his most seasoned troops in Tibet. Gen. Ding Sheng and his 54th Army, veterans of the Korean War, had gained experience suppressing minority uprisings in Qinghai and Gansu in 1958 before heading to Tibet in 1959.
How often was the Chinese military used against Tibetans, and how many Tibetan casualties were there?

We don’t have an exact tally of military encounters, since many went unrecorded. My best estimate based on official Chinese materials — public and classified — is about 15,000 in all Tibetan regions between 1956 and 1962.
Precise casualty figures are hard to come by, but according to a classified Chinese military document I found in a Hong Kong library, more than 456,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” from 1956 to 1962.

SOURCE
: httpwwwnytimescom/2016/08/15/world/asia/china-tibet-lhasa-jianglin-li.html?_r=0&referer=

@waz this guy should be banned for posting fake news

 

[Abacin]

In 1956-62, Dalai Lama lead a religion army similar to ISIS to oppose the secularization of Tibet. Many cold-blooded acts similar to ISIS was recorded in these religious soldiers. Even today, Dalai lead his so called refugee government with many lamas.

Unfortunately, West and India still paint Dalai as a scared anti-China god with faked data and history. Each time when I go to see CNN news about Tibet, it had a sentence that China invaded Tibet in 1959. The truth was that Tibet was annexed into China in Yuan Dynasty and couldn't make in 1310, Tibet never could make independence after that even when China changed from Yuan dynasty to Ming Dynasty, Qing Dynasty, ROC and PRC. Tibet was always eager to pay allegiance to New dynasty. PRC recovered the whole Tibet In 1951 with small resistances even when China was having Korean Wars at that time.

When I see religious conflicts in India and West, I show no sympathy at all. When you betray secular society, you get religious conflicts. The more West and India prop up Dalai, the more religious conflicts in the west and India.

 

[Jlaw]

guys look at the link. dude made it up....

 

[Abacin]

The more India supports Dalai, the more India is trapped in religious conflicts. When India allows Dalai to have a quasi religious government, Muslims and other religions will also ask for it. Before India is serious on this issue, forget about Rise of India. India will remain the poorest country in this world. All non-secular countries can only make rich through resources. Unfortunately India doesn't.

 

[The Sandman]

******** feeling the heat of their crimes against humanity in Kashmir and north eastern states.

How many have they killed during their annexations and illegal occupations in all the states?

Pathetic attempt to start an insulting session against China. The thread must be closed.

guys look at the link. dude made it up....

Many of them are just frustrated see how low their media has stooped after the embarrassment they faced in I0K...
https://defence.pk/threads/propagan...s-baluchistan-revolt-against-pakistan.444204/

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

Many of them are just frustrated see how low their media has stooped after the embarrassment they faced in I0K...
https://defence.pk/threads/propagan...s-baluchistan-revolt-against-pakistan.444204/

Thank my friend for highlighting this. They still occupy South Tibet and are oppressing the north eastern states which they annexed illegally.

Sometimes it is difficult to understand what this hindian mob wants.

They are all over the place and come in hordes.

Guess this mob is organised one. A kind of Psychological warfare unit here on the PDF.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

@Jlaw must stop behaving like a mental asylum patient.

Here's the link:

httpwwwnytimescom/2016/08/15/world/asia/china-tibet-lhasa-jianglin-li.html?_r=0&referer=

Just put . after wwww and before com

 

[John Reese]

I wouldnt completely trust a western source on any chinese matter. new or old.

come Delhi or Dharamsala if you meet ethnic tibetans

 

[yantong1980]

About Tibet and write by someone in NYTimes, yeah right. He must be some 'expert'. Next!

 

[艹艹艹]

About Tibet and write by someone in NYTimes, yeah right. He must be some 'expert'. Next!

Do you mean the Indonesian Massacre 1998 1965

A Writer’s Quest to Unearth the Roots of Tibet’s Unrest.
August 14, 2016
Sinosphere
By LUO SILIN
New York Times

The trouble actually started in the Tibetan regions of nearby Chinese provinces — Yunnan, Sichuan, Qinghai and Gansu, home to about 60 percent of the Tibetan population. When the Chinese Communists forced collectivization on these Tibetan nomads and farmers in the latter half of the 1950s, the results were catastrophic. Riots and rebellions spread like wildfire. The Communists responded with military force, and there were terrible massacres. Refugees streamed into Tibet, bringing their horror stories into Lhasa.
Some of the most frightening reports had to do with the disappearances of Tibetan leaders in Sichuan and Qinghai. It was party policy to try to pre-empt Tibetan rebellion by luring prominent Tibetans from their communities with invitations to banquets, shows or study classes — from which many never returned. People in Lhasa thought the Dalai Lama could be next.
You’ve documented the massacres of Tibetans in the Chinese provinces in the late 1950s.
In 2012, I drove across Qinghai to a remote place an elderly Tibetan refugee in India had told me about: a ravine where a flood one year brought down a torrent of skeletons, clogging the Yellow River. From his description, I identified the location as Drongthil Gully, in the mountains of Tsolho Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture. I had read in Chinese sources about major campaigns against Tibetans in that area in 1958 and 1959. About 10,000 Tibetans — entire families with their livestock — had fled to the hills there to escape the Chinese. At Drongthil Gully, the Chinese deployed six ground regiments, including infantry, cavalry and artillery, and something the Tibetans had never heard of: aircraft with 100-kilogram bombs. The few Tibetans who were armed — the head of a nomad household normally carried a gun to protect his herds — shot back, but they were no match for the Chinese, who recorded that more than 8,000 “rebel bandits” were “annihilated” — killed, wounded or captured — in these campaigns.
I wondered about the skeletons until I saw the place for myself, and then it seemed entirely plausible. The river at the bottom of the ravine there flows into a relatively narrow section of the Yellow River. In desolate areas like this, Chinese troops were known to withdraw after a victory, leaving the ground littered with corpses.

The Tibetans in Sichuan, Yunnan, Gansu and Qinghai were already under nominal Chinese administration when the Communists took over in 1949. How was Tibet annexed?
It was Mao’s goal from the moment he came to power. Tibet “is strategically located,” he said in January 1950, “and we must occupy it and transform it into a people’s democracy.”
He started by sending troops to invade Tibet at Chamdo in October 1950, forcing the Tibetans to sign the 17-Point Agreement for the Peaceful Liberation of Tibet, which ceded Tibetan sovereignty to China. Next, the People’s Liberation Army marched into Lhasa in 1951, at the same time — in disregard of the Chinese promise in the agreement to leave the Tibetan sociopolitical system intact — smuggling an underground Communist Party cell into the city to build a party presence in Tibet.
Meanwhile, Mao was preparing his military and awaiting the right moment to strike. “Our time has come,” he declared in March 1959, seizing on the demonstrations in Lhasa. After conquering the city, China dissolved the Tibetan government and — under the slogan of “simultaneous battle and reform” — imposed the full Communist program throughout Tibet, culminating in the establishment of the Tibet Autonomous Region in 1965.
How did Mao prepare his military for Tibet?
Mao welcomed the campaigns to suppress minority uprisings within China’s borders as practice for war in Tibet. There were new weapons for his troops to master, to say nothing of the unfamiliar challenges of battle on the Qinghai-Tibetan Plateau.
The new weapons included 10 Tupolev TU-4 bombers, which Stalin gave Mao in 1953. Mao tested them in airstrikes at three Tibetan monasteries in Sichuan, starting with Jamchen Choekhor Ling, in Lithang. On March 29, 1956, while thousands of Chinese troops fought Tibetans at the monastery, two of the new planes were deployed. The Tibetans saw giant “birds” approach and drop some strange objects, but they had no word for airplane, or for bomb. According to Chinese records, more than 2,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” in the battle, including civilians who had sought refuge in the monastery.

Mao used his most seasoned troops in Tibet. Gen. Ding Sheng and his 54th Army, veterans of the Korean War, had gained experience suppressing minority uprisings in Qinghai and Gansu in 1958 before heading to Tibet in 1959.
How often was the Chinese military used against Tibetans, and how many Tibetan casualties were there?

We don’t have an exact tally of military encounters, since many went unrecorded. My best estimate based on official Chinese materials — public and classified — is about 15,000 in all Tibetan regions between 1956 and 1962.
Precise casualty figures are hard to come by, but according to a classified Chinese military document I found in a Hong Kong library, more than 456,000 Tibetans were “annihilated” from 1956 to 1962.

SOURCE
: httpwwwnytimescom/2016/08/15/world/asia/china-tibet-lhasa-jianglin-li.html?_r=0&referer=

This news is sheer nonsense.
It is true that the Indians have always wanted to invade Tibet.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

come Delhi or Dharamsala if you meet ethnic tibetans

Really, that's just a propaganda, see this true story, India is still protect the religious dictator that still oppress his own people in Dharamsala, good job India, I hope one day the oppression spread to entire India, once you finish this video, you will see ladies drop of tear

 

[Beast]

Why don't NYT reported how many red indian killed by white American in 19th century?

 

[dlclong]

You changed the title, I willnot change

放你妈那狗屁，阿三，fu---ck u ，stupid Indian Pure nonsense
Hindustani killed 300000000 people, including Kashmir, West Bengal, Tamil, Manipuri, Assam，Kahalisitan, Myer Galla, Mizoram, Tibetans, especially is in our southern Tibet

Whether u are white American, or Hindustani indian,
Do u think that a lie that can split us?
Do u think a lie would be "legal" to invade our land?
Do u think it can cover up u ，？slaughter of other people by?
Fond dream！