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chinas once hot economy is turning cold ?

The number for May is 48.7, compared to 49.3 in April. This is the seventh straight month of contraction and the more important components of the index look fairly bad.

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P.S - Just here to prove that it's a global slowdown and before someone quotes me......"Yup! India is probably in a worst situation as compared to China" :rolleyes1:;)
 
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The number for May is 48.7, compared to 49.3 in April. This is the seventh straight month of contraction and the more important components of the index look fairly bad.

The PMI index compares the growth rate to a previous period in time.

So a PMI ranking of below 50 means that the growth rate was lower than it was in the previous period.

Yes, the growth rate has slowed compared to previous periods, but it is still nominally very high.
 
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India is the epicenter of global slavery. You must be one of the elite Brahmins to be so cruel to your own countrymen.

Wrong on both counts...as usual. It is okay - you have to deride India to feel good about yourself. Just apply for asylum to India like many of your country people and we will give you a taste of freedom.
 
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India is the epicenter of global slavery. You must be one of the elite Brahmins to be so cruel to your own countrymen.

Thats quite funny?
Who said that? some pak comedian?
I belong to the most backward caste to india, yet i am fighting with u guys through net..
Dont troll,,..
China is a export oriented economy, but india is a domestic driven econnomy...
If exports fall, china may fall, but india wont, we have domestic growth to compensate for us..
Till 5 years ago, our growth was fully domestic driven...
 
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Wrong on both counts...as usual. It is okay - you have to deride India to feel good about yourself. Just apply for asylum to India like many of your country people and we will give you a taste of freedom.

Nope. Nicholas D. Kristof: India is center of child-slave trade | The Columbus Dispatch

Also, the asylum applicants are Tibetans, I thought you said Tibetans weren't Chinese? :lol:

Best for your illegal immigrants to get out of our country before a backlash occurs. Just a small provocation resulted in 2 of your businessmen being detained by private citizens and your embassy powerless to help them.
 
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hey China GDP is still over 8% and higher than gov target. it's just a great performance in Europe crisis. Don't worry about China. Indian you should fix your country problems quickly.

1. India GDP sharly slowing & far below gov target
2. Very high trade deficit
3. Very high debt
4. Very high Inflation
5. Very high unemployment
6. Rupee historically record Low
 
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China tax income over 1 trillion in 2011 (Historical High). almost more than USA

China has got too much money in hands :china:
 
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China is a export oriented economy,
yes, but that only counts for 35% of its 7.5trillion economy

but india is a domestic driven econnomy...
wrong Indian is a factor driven economy, far from domestic driven economy,``please at least educate yourself before speaking out your cluelessness, WIPO defines it clearly,
you know what is real domestic driven economy? look at U.S, U.K and most western european countries, even Gernmany and Italy cannot be categorised as such``

China demostic market consumes two entire India's GDP every year``and your primitive economy is hijacked by Foreign Institutional funds (their aims are short turn investment, and exploration of local economy) thats why you see your joke rupees is going down the drain, but RMB is ever increasing against Dollar, Euros and Sterlins (even with tight control over its appreciation)
 
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Of course the Tibetans are Chinese citizens. When did I ever deny it?


LOL and an Opinion Piece is not a source.

And last I checked the guys who were held were not in China illegally. Do you have a source which states they were in China illegally or is it more garbage that you are spewing?
 
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Wrong on both counts...as usual. It is okay - you have to deride India to feel good about yourself. Just apply for asylum to India like many of your country people and we will give you a taste of freedom.
Excuse me? What kind of idiot will apply for asylum to india? I just heard that some corrupt official will apply for politic asylum to Canada or USA!!
Freedom!! Good thing, but don't talk about india-style freedom, Because in china, it means freedom of defecating everywhere and openly!!
Of course the Tibetans are Chinese citizens. When did I ever deny it?


LOL and an Opinion Piece is not a source.

And last I checked the guys who were held were not in China illegally. Do you have a source which states they were in China illegally or is it more garbage that you are spewing?
You checked that they are not illegally? How did you check it? Where is the source?
I just one question, why a simple can pull your embassy in? If you can't answer these, Does it prove that the conclusion that you get after checking is garbage?
# of Chinese citizens in India who are asylum seekers - 120,000. They are given special permits to engage in some kind of work in India. We are always willing to help the poor and destitute.
In fact, you should send them to south tibet that you occupy temporarily, which can really show your "always willing"!!
 
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Excuse me? What kind of idiot will apply for asylum to india? I just heard that some corrupt official will apply for politic asylum to Canada or USA!!
Freedom!! Good thing, but don't talk about india-style freedom, Because in china, it means freedom of defecating everywhere and openly!!

# of Chinese citizens in India who are asylum seekers - 120,000. They are given special permits to engage in some kind of work in India. We are always willing to help the poor and destitute.
 
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After Barreling Ahead in Recession, China Finally Slows



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A construction worker near Xi’an, China. Many have lost their jobs because developers have been caught in a squeeze for money.



By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: May 24, 2012

XI’AN, China — A nationwide real estate downturn, stalling exports and declining consumer confidence have produced what a Chinese cabinet adviser, quoted on the official government Web site on Thursday, characterized as a “sharp slowdown in the economy.”



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An abandoned project near Xi’an, China, where sales of apartments have slowed sharply.



Though the Chinese economy continues to expand, construction workers are losing jobs in droves and retail sales grew last month at the slowest pace in more than three years. Investments in fixed assets have increased more slowly this year than in any year since 2001.


The most striking feature of the slowdown is that it extends beyond the coastal provinces, which depend on exports and are closely linked to the global economy, to the country’s far more insular interior, including cities like Xi’an here in northwestern China.


China’s unexpected economic difficulties are starting to unnerve investors in world markets, especially commodity markets, as China is the world’s largest consumer of most raw materials and the second-largest consumer of oil.


A deepening slowdown would ripple across the world economy. Until now, China’s economy barreled ahead mostly unhindered as the main engine of global growth, even as Europe struggled with its government debt crisis and the United States limped along with a crippled housing market.


Government indexes show real estate prices are falling in more than half of the country’s top 70 urban markets, Xi’an among them. Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services and Moody’s each issued reports on Thursday warning that many of China’s real estate developers face a severe cash squeeze as apartment sales slow to a crawl. The developers still owe heavy interest payments on bank loans.


“Weak property developers in China are likely to face a test of their survival this year,” S.& P. said.


China’s economy was 8.1 percent larger in the first quarter of this year than a year earlier, but virtually all of that growth took place last year. The economy barely grew in the first quarter compared with the fourth quarter of 2011, and the second quarter of this year is likely to show even less growth from the preceding quarter, said Diana Choyleva, a China economist in the Hong Kong office of Lombard Street Research.


The World Bank also warned on Wednesday of a slowdown.


“Clearly the economy is much, much weaker than most people thought until recently,” Ms. Choyleva said. “They have a real mess on their hands.”


China is the world’s largest importer of a long list of commodities, like iron ore and copper. It has also been a big buyer of European factory equipment and luxury goods. The United States economy is much less exposed to a slowdown in the Chinese economy, with exports of goods to China representing less than 0.7 percent of American economic output last year.

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Benefiting from heavy government spending on highways and other infrastructure and voracious demand for apartments as poor laborers arrived from the countryside, China’s inland cities had continued to expand even when the rest of the world’s economy fell into serious difficulty in late 2008 and early 2009. But now the economic troubles are evident here in Xi’an, an economic cornerstone of northwestern China that serves as one of the country’s largest transportation and distribution hubs and a manufacturing center for everything from bulldozers to aircraft components.

Sun Yufang, a wholesale dealer in Xi’an in ovens, ranges and water heaters, said that residents had nearly stopped outfitting new apartments or redecorating old ones.

“We didn’t really feel the global financial crisis, but this year, we’ve really felt it — I don’t see a solution unless people start buying,” Ms. Sun said, sitting in a spacious shop with no customers in sight.

Premier Wen Jiabao expressed concern last weekend about the economy after an inspection tour to Wuhan in east-central China. He then led a cabinet meeting on Wednesday that produced the government’s strongest statement yet.

The government should “place stabilizing growth in a more important position and carry out pre-emptive policy adjustments and fine-tuning more forcefully according to the changing situation,” the cabinet statement said.

An explanatory statement from the official Xinhua news agency drafted on Wednesday and posted on the Chinese government’s Web site on Thursday cited Zhang Liqun, a senior economist advising the cabinet, as saying that, “the sharp slowdown in the economy has aroused attention from policy makers.”


A preliminary reading of a monthly purchasing managers index showed that manufacturing had continued to weaken in May, with the index falling to 48.7 from 49.3 in April; a figure below 50 indicates a slowing sector.


The cabinet called for stimulating the economy through faster construction of railroads, schools, clinics and other infrastructure. With the Chinese economy still heavily dependent on investment spending, some economists are optimistic that China can quickly reignite growth.


“When you’ve got state banks lending to state enterprises to implement the state’s five-year plan, you don’t have a lot of downside to investment,” said Paul Gruenwald, a former International Monetary Fund official in Hong Kong who is now the chief Asia economist at ANZ, one of Australia’s biggest banks.

China has the financial resources to expand government spending sharply. China has a low ratio of debt to economic output, even when sizable local government debts are added to the national debt. Chinese banks have among the world’s lowest rates of loans to deposits, although some banking analysts have questioned whether many loans by state-owned banks to politically influential borrowers will be repaid.

But with the country having finished building much of its infrastructure, it is having a harder time finding further projects that can pass cost-benefit analyses. The Chinese interior has been the biggest beneficiary of infrastructure spending over the last decade, but now shows signs of catching up with the more developed coast.

The Xi’an airport opened a third terminal and another runway on May 3, giving it the capacity to handle as many passengers as John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York, despite considerably smaller daily traffic. Bullet trains connect Xi’an to Zhengzhou, nearly 300 miles to the east, while no fewer than three concentric beltways encircle Xi’an, although traffic jams continue to bedevil the ancient city’s core.

One more big infrastructure project remains: the city opened its first subway line late last year, plans to finish a second line later this year and has begun construction on a third. But crisscross the city these days and there are fewer streets torn up for building projects than in the past.

At the same time, residential real estate construction has slowed sharply after the government imposed a stringent ban last year on the purchase of multiple homes in an effort to discourage speculation and make housing more affordable. Wei Li, a real estate broker in downtown Xi’an, said that prices had fallen 20 percent since the start of this year for new apartments in the hundreds of towers under construction on the city’s periphery, but she said downtown real estate prices were stable. Construction material vendors here, however, say that apartment prices are also falling in downtown neighborhoods.

Developers across the country have responded to the drop in prices by abandoning the longstanding practice of floodlighting construction sites and working around the clock. They have cut back to one daytime shift, sharply reducing the demand for construction workers.

“It’s getting harder and harder to find work,” complained Li Bo, a construction worker here.

Xi’an is best known in the West as an ancient capital of China, a Silk Road entrepôt that is home to the terra-cotta warriors. But modern-day Xi’an also plays an important role in the Chinese economy as a regional economic hub with eight million residents.

Store owners and other traders from across northwestern China converge at large covered markets here to buy goods, making Xi’an one of the best places to take the pulse of China’s interior. And now, that pulse feels weak for consumer spending.

Until late March, Ma Xiechuan sold pork at his butcher shop here by hacking large chunks and handing them to lines of customers to take home and carefully slice and dice. But with sales now down by a third, he has so much extra time that he deftly wields his steel cleaver to produce thin slivers, ready for the customer’s wok.

“It’s the fastest downturn in business I’ve seen in more than 10 years here,” Mr. Ma said.

Yian Leilei, a wholesaler of tablecloths and car seat covers, said that sales nose-dived after Chinese New Year on Jan. 23 and had not recovered. Wang Heiyen, a wholesaler of insulated food and beverage containerssaid his sales were sliding steadily and customers were becoming ever pickier. Ding Lei, the co-owner of a paint and plaster store said his sales had halved since the start of this year. “People are just not buying apartments,” Mr. Ding said. “It was O.K. in 2009. I’ve never seen it as bad as it is now.”

Mayor Dong Jun of Xi’an expressed worry in a post last week on the city’s Web site.

“The economic situation in the whole city from January through April this year is not that optimistic,” he said. “Maintaining the growth rate continues to be very difficult.”


The Newyork Times.

If China's economy slows down then India is in BIG TROUBLE.....for the mean time only China buys India's LOW GRADE iron ore and can you imagine what will happen when China stops importing Iron Ore and Basmati Rice from India ?
 
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