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China’s military lays out technology road map to catch up with the US

Why only on par? Surpassing US military should be the real goal
Agree it will take a long time for China to come close to US military hegemony, since the US is not staying idle/stagnant, the US military machine is still evolving and modernizing very fast , which is quite impressive given the US is already the world's preeminent military power and a matured developed country and so you will expect the US to grow and evolve slower , but it's not the case at all, which is quite impressive. Shows the country's fundamentals are really strong.

The US is running very low on money, things are changing rapidly for the US military industrial complex as more and more countries and ditching the US dollar, which is the pillar of the US military. And with the Covid-19 rampaging the entire US, this would be even more difficult. Will the US be like the Soviet Union and use most of their resources to run an arms race with others? What happened to the SU what they did that? I think we all know the answer to that, don't we?
 
Agree it will take a long time for China to come close to US military hegemony, since the US is not staying idle/stagnant, the US military machine is still evolving and modernizing very fast , which is quite impressive given the US is already the world's preeminent military power and a matured developed country and so you will expect the US to grow and evolve slower , but it's not the case at all, which is quite impressive. Shows the country's fundamentals are really strong.

This give you an idea about the american military tech and their hype
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China is no where near US force projection. The world knows this and that is why it treats US with respect even if that can often be dressed up fear. You need to have some conflicts ~ actual fighting. This can easily be achieved by invading Eritrea, Ethopia etc under guise of bring "prosperity and freedom".
Who is the world? Iran who fire ballistic missile at US Base(indirectly declare war) and US did nothing in return? Or the Russia who decide to enter Syria war and show US the finger? Or the Chinese who continue to build islets with military installation in SCS who US brag to take it down but yet to do it?

I think it's more of you showing too much respect for overhyped US military.
 
Who is the world? Iran who fire ballistic missile at US Base(indirectly declare war) and US did nothing in return? Or the Russia who decide to enter Syria war and show US the finger? Or the Chinese who continue to build islets with military installation in SCS who US brag to take it down but yet to do it?

I think it's more of you showing too much respect for overhyped US military.
US did nothing when North Korea showed the world its first nuclear explosion and continued more tests afterwards. The US was threatening to take military action and we know how that turned out.
 
Who is the world? Iran who fire ballistic missile at US Base(indirectly declare war) and US did nothing in return? Or the Russia who decide to enter Syria war and show US the finger? Or the Chinese who continue to build islets with military installation in SCS who US brag to take it down but yet to do it?

I think it's more of you showing too much respect for overhyped US military.
US did nothing when North Korea showed the world its first nuclear explosion and continued more tests afterwards. The US was threatening to take military action and we know how that turned out.

Russia took Crimea without firing a shot. US couldn’t stop it.
 
US did nothing when North Korea showed the world its first nuclear explosion and continued more tests afterwards. The US was threatening to take military action and we know how that turned out.
Precisely, US is no more the country 20years ago who can take down any country.

US is only good in taking down small countries with little chance if fight back. The fact, US even need to hesitate to take on second rates Iran military more or less tells you how weak US has reduced.
 
Precisely, US is no more the country 20years ago who can take down any country.

US is only good in taking down small countries with little chance if fight back. The fact, US even need to hesitate to take on second rates Iran military more or less tells you how weak US has reduced.
Boasting 11 Carriers, most airfighter planes, F-22, B-2, all the high tech bombs. Iran couldn't care and fire the missles. What did US do? quack quack
 
😂😂 yall are funny! Because we chose not to attack or start a war when ever someone does something we don't like. Like we in the 20th century. These are the same people who say we are warmongers, but when we don't want to or feel like fighting we are weak. Is it hard to believe that we really don't care anymore. But don't disrespect us.
 
They were saying
in 1990 China was not worth mentioning at all.
in 2000 China was 50 years behind USA
in 2010 China was 30 years behind USA
in 2020 China is behind USA in some fields while equal or better in some other fields, overall China could be around 10 years behind USA.
in 2027 China aims to catch up with the best that US has.
in 2030 Looking back, Trump must be really piss off that Biden destroyed his America Great Again plan.

May be we will see a navy ship named USS Donald Trump??? o_O
 
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Which entity made up this chart??? 😂
They were saying
in 1990 China was not worth mentioning at all.
in 2000 China was 50 years behind USA
in 2010 China was 30 years behind USA
in 2020 China is behind USA in some fields while equal or better in some other fields, overall China could be around 10 years behind USA.
in 2027 China aims to catch up with the best that US has.
in 2030 Looking back, Trump must be really piss off that Biden destroyed his America Great Again plan.

May be we will see a navy ship named USS Donald Trump??? o_O
Donald Trump must be a decease first to ever have chance be eulogized in one of the USS.
 
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Why only on par? Surpassing US military should be the real goal


The US is running very low on money, things are changing rapidly for the US military industrial complex as more and more countries and ditching the US dollar, which is the pillar of the US military. And with the Covid-19 rampaging the entire US, this would be even more difficult. Will the US be like the Soviet Union and use most of their resources to run an arms race with others? What happened to the SU what they did that? I think we all know the answer to that, don't we?

In some areas, at the worse, China on par with Murica.
In many other key areas, China way ahead of Murica.

But again, China not going to rest on laurels. China will forge on ahead to be even betterer to make sure Murica remain a distant 2nd to China.

Let us look at artillery

Chinese tube artillery amd MRLS systems got longer reach and bigger bangs than those of Muricans.

USA is a distant third to Russia and China. Be that in tube artillery or rocket artillery.
And of even greater importance, China got a lot lot more of those than Muricans.

Totally unlike WW2 Wehrmacht with good Tiger tanks but outnumbered 10 to 1 by Shermans and Russian and Churchill tanks.


USA is a distant third to Russia and China. Be that in tube artillery or rocket artillery.

**Chinese tube artillery**

Top 10 Self-Propelled Howitzers

Saudi Arabia uses Chinese NORINCO PLZ-45 self propelled howitzer for the clear advantage over that of the best of USA artillery. More accurate and longer reach than the best of USA artillery. And Saudi Arabia is USA captive country and yet refused to use USA artillery as that so inferior to China.

PLZ-52 is capable of firing a full range of Chinese 155 mm munitions. Range of a standard High-Explosive Fragmentation (HE-FRAG) projectile is around 30 km and around 40 km of extended-range projectile. Maximum range of fire is 53 km with rocket-assisted projectile. It has been reported that China developed a GPS-guided 155 mm projectile. It was claimed that this projectile has a whooping maximum range of 100 km and accuracy of 40 m.

Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen (Saudis Use Chinese-made Cannons in Yemen
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Rate of fire

Maximum:8–10 rounds/min
Sustained: 2 rounds/min

Look at the M109 below

Rate of fire

Maximum: 4 rpm/3 min.
Sustained: 1 rpm

Effective firing range

Conventional: 18 km (11 mi)
RAP
: 30 km (19 mi)

M109 totally outmatched by the PLZ-45.

It is not a wonder why even Saudi Arabia bought PLZ-45 despite they being a captive client country of USA and yet refused and rejected USA arty despite the obvious massive arm twisting of USA on Saudi Arabia.

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**Rocket Artillery **

Now China is as good if not better than Russians in rocket artillery.

Top 10 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (Top 10 Multiple Launch Rocket Systems
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The PHL 03 is a Chinese artillery rocket system. It is a copy of the Soviet

Smerch (Smerch Multiple Launch Rocket System
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. It reportedly entered service with the Chinese army in 2004-2005. The PHL 03 is also being proposed for the export customers as the AR2. It has been exported to Morocco (one battalion with 36 units).

The PHL 03 has 12 tubes for 300 mm rockets. A standard rocket weights around 800 kg and has a 280 kg warhead. Maximum range of fire is 70-130 km depending on the warhead type. Though some sources report that rockets of this system has a maximum range of 150 km. Rockets are available with High Explosive Fragmentation (HE-FRAG), fuel-air explosive, and cluster warheads with anti-armor and anti-personnel submunitions. Cluster warheads may also carry self-targeting anti-tank munitions. A full salvo of this system could potentially cover an area of up to 67 hectares.

**Even though the PHL 03 is a Chinese version of the Smerch, it appears that Chinese overtook Russians in terms of rockets, as rockets of the PHL 03 have longer range than those of the Smerch. Manufacturers claim, that Chinese 300 mm rockets are not compatible with the Russian Smerch rockets as these use different propellant motors and components.**

China's PHL03, advanced Multiple Launch Rocket System (China's PHL03, advanced Multiple Launch Rocket System
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Various types of the 300 mm caliber rocket shells fired by the PHL03 are equipped with simple automatic correction system which allows more dense impact points. The impact point intensity doubles and the accuracy triples. In this way, a high kill probability with fewer rocket shells is possible.

Comparison with its peers

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From the table above, it can be concluded that in terms of overall design, or in particular, the range, intensity, power, survivability and maneuverability, the PHL03 MLRS has a series of major breakthroughs compared with traditional rockets. Some of its aspects meet or even exceed the world's advanced level.

The service of the PHL03 Multiple Launch Rocket System has greatly enhanced the capability of remote fire support of the Chinese military. The operational performance of the system will continue to improve with the development of China's rocket shell technology. And it will become an indispensable remote firepower for the Chinese military.

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And read this too

China’s new PCL191 multiple launch rocket system casts shadow over Taiwan Strait


  • The ‘mystery’ hardware that appeared without a name at the National Day parade in October is the PLA’s most powerful MLRS ever, experts say
  • System capable of firing eight 370mm rockets 350km or two 750mm ballistic missiles 500km


China’s new PCL191 multiple launch rocket system is capable of firing ballistic missiles up to 500km. Photo: Handout

China’s new PCL191 multiple launch rocket system is capable of firing ballistic missiles up to 500km. Photo: Handout

The multiple launch rocket system (MLRS) that made its public debut at China’s
National Day parade
on October 1 has been identified as a state-of-the-art piece of weaponry capable of firing both rockets and ballistic missiles, according to a leading military magazine.
A report in the latest issue of Modern Ships also gave the new hardware a name – the Type PCL191 – saying it was a modular launcher based on the AR3 system developed by China for the export market.
Unlike other weapon systems on display in Beijing, which had their names emblazoned along their sides, the Type PCL191 rumbled through the streets of Beijing on the back of heavy-duty trucks with almost complete anonymity.

China will have even better weapon than Muricans can build. With longer reach, and with more bang, and a lot more than Muricans.

In fact, China weapons now are better than any of the Muricans. With longer reach, and with more bang, and a lot more than Muricans.



Note the DF100s antiship missiles . Revealed only in Oct 2019. Mach 5 and range of 1000 km.








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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/chinas-df-100-missile-good-enough-kill-americas-navy-96476


China got 3000++ of Mach 3s YJ-12 and YJ18 to throw against the 11 carriers USA want to bring to their self declared FONOP.
Or at least 300++ Mach 3s on each carrier group.
Assuming only 20 % of those will hit. So be assured that at least 10 missiles will hit the carrier and not just 1 missile.
And not just the warhead, there will be 2–3 tons of missiles coming behind the warhead at Mach 3 tearing into the bulkheads and ordnance and aviation fuel and the poor men and women in the carrier. Those 2–3 tons of missile body will be tearing in the bulkheads faster and more deadly then APFSDS. Andf carrying its own unburned fuel to add to the fun.
Even steel will burn when hit with hell fire and tons of steel and debris coming in at Mach 3. The aviation fuel, and paint on walls, the bombs and ordnance will all cook off and add to the huge huge fire inside the carrier. Regardless if carrier under Condition Zebra or Donkey or Jackass.
The brave sailors in those carriers will not care or worry and be happy that their carrier not sinking. And only burning and burning from one end to the other end.



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Remember in just ten minutes, China missiles will destroy all the fucking airbases and naval bases in Japan and Guam. And in the next 30 minutes, Chinee cruise missiles by the thousands will take out whatever the **** the missiles left in Japan.

Whether the mosquito is female or male will also be known.
Your stealth F35s or B1s B2s got smaller radar profile than a mosquito?
China Using Radar To Combat Mosquitoes
China is using military technology to wage war ... on mosquitoes
USA or Israeli got any systems able to do that?
Thank you USA for enforcing ban on China in purchasing that from Israel or other countries.
Forcing China to do it all on its own and leaving you either far behind or far far behind.
**And Chinese air weaponary. To splash the air tankers and AWACs and JSTAR USA rely on to direct the fight in the air. And the Stealth planes of USA.**
How China's Clever New Missile Could Cripple American Air Power
China's Mach 6 Monster Air-to-Air Missile Could Make the U.S. Air Force Come in for a ‘Crash Landing’
This is what USA Airforce Secretary got to say in 2018
Air Force secretary: China, Russia could shoot down new JSTARS on day one of a war
There will be no usable bases for USA airforce in Japan or Guam within the first 10 minutes of the war.
First Strike: China's Missile Threat to U.S. Bases in Asia
A Missile 'Pearl Harbor': How China Could Win a War Against America?
Missile Strikes on U.S. Bases in Asia: Is This China's Real Threat to America?
Those bases will all be hit and cratered by DFs with conventional warheads so planes cannot take off.
Go into above to see photos of strikes made by Chinese on model setups in the Western desert of China that represent hardened bunkers for planes and runways and dock settings with models of Burkes and Ticos and the bases HQs to see the pin point targetting of the DFs.

USA sending in her F-22, F35s, B1s and B2s?

How difficult is it to detect stealth planes and to target them when the quality of radar Chinese are dealing with can be set to detect not just mosquitoes a few kilometers away.

Whether the mosquito is female or male will also be known.

Your stealth F-22 F35s or B1s B2s got smaller radar profile than a mosquito?

Smaller then the difference between a male and female mosquito?

China Using Radar To Combat Mosquitoes

China is using military technology to wage war ... on mosquitoes

USA or Israeli got any systems able to do that?

Thank you USA for enforcing ban on China in purchasing that from Israel or other countries.

Forcing China to do it all on its own and leaving you either far behind or far far behind.

And you can bet your bottom dollar that filters are in place to ignore normal mosquitoes flying at 10 to 20 km per hour. Any mosquito, or bird, flying at 100 mph or faster will be picked up. China got AI recognition to pick up and pin point faces from videos in cities of a few dozen millions.

Picking up F-22 of radar profile of a bird that travel close to Mach 1 will be a piece of cake.

And sending Mach 6 BVRAAMs to take down that fast flying bird.

Will they hope to hide from the Divine Eagles and more? who then will signal to the BVRAAMs to take them down?

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China’s Divine Eagle anti-stealth UAV is probably an interferometer

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10,000 Divine Eagle L-band T/R module interferometer / 1,200 F-35 X-band T/R module AESA radar = Eight times greater sensitivity based on module count

Why does China’s Divine Eagle UAV have a maximum altitude of 79,000 feet?

According to Popular Science, China’s Divine Eagle UAV has a maximum altitude of 25km (or 79,000 feet).

In contrast, the US Global Hawk has a maximum altitude of only 18km (or 57,000 feet).

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And Chinese Soar Dragon XiangLong

ANOTHER BIG BIRD

The 7-10 ton Xianglong, with some stealthy features, would make an ideal EW drone thanks to its huge size, and lone endurance. Its unique 20 meter joined tandem wings increase its range and on station time.

http://www.top81.cn
, via yexu at China Defense Forum

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vacuuming up a wealth of data, for extended periods of time.
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The system might also move beyond a surveillance role. Chinese engineers have noted that the Xianglong's large payload, endurance and range makes it ideal for electronic warfare (EW) missions, both for gathering intelligence on electronic activity, as well as carrying jammers to disrupt enemy radars and datalinks. In wartime, the Xianglong's high altitude jammers would seek to disrupt not only the radars of enemy fighters and missiles, but also jam and spoof communications between enemy bombers, airborne early warning and control aircraft, drones and even datalinks between satellites, ships, land based missile launchers and missiles. in such role, the EW Xianglong would operate alongside a host of other Chinese EW aircraft, including Y-9 heavy transport jammers, J-16 and JH-7 strike aircraft, in both offensive and defensive operations.

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