China’s Jinbei to build vehicle production plant in Pakistan

[N.Siddiqui]

He is telling, though quality of chinese car much improved, still higher end version is equivalent to basic version of foreign brands and people still not trust chinese cars !

5 More Indian Made Cars Fail Crash Test

Made in India cars have failed crash tests. Again. In the third round of tests involving popular models sold in India, Global NCAP has crashed the Renault Kwid, Maruti Suzuki Celerio, Maruti Suzuki Eeco, Mahindra Scorpio and Hyundai Eon. All cars have received zero stars for safety in the tests.

The simple truth here is that to pass these tests vehicles must carry some basic safety equipment - dual airbags is a mandated requirement. The fact that none of these cars have airbags as standard, means that like in the previous tests, they failed even before they could be crashed. Of course the structural integrity of the car's body shell is also tested, and here too many performed poorly.

https://auto.ndtv.com/news/5-indian-cars-fail-2016-global-ncap-test-1407129

He is telling, though quality of chinese car much improved, still higher end version is equivalent to basic version of foreign brands and people still not trust chinese cars !

Global NCAP safety test fails seven Indian cars, car companies remain unfazed

New Delhi: Car companies such as Maruti Suzuki, Hyundai, Mahindra and Renault refused to read much into Global NCAP's crash test results - that failed some of their models - and said they are producing vehicles in line with the existing safety norms.
The companies said that they will upgrade the cars to more stringent safety norms as the new crash test regulations kick in from 2017.

Maruti Suzuki, which saw two of its models (Celerio hatchback and Eeco van) fail the test, said that its products are safe when looked from the perspective of the present day norms. "All our products are safe. They meet the safety standards of the country and in most cases, exceed them. The tests by Global NCAP are conducted at speeds that are higher than those prescribed by the regulatory authorities not only in India but in Europe and USA. The results of Global NCAP have to be seen in that perspective," a company spokesperson said.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...anies-remain-unfazed/articleshow/52313665.cms

 

[!eon]

Like Mehran was providing top notch quality and road safety

Who said Chinese bikes are causing accidents due to quality ?

 

[N.Siddiqui]

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[Karna_007]

Proud Tata

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Why do Indian cars offer poor safety features?

Also the premise of the question is misleading. The western spec Suzuki Swift doesn’t weigh 1,000kg more, that would be stupid and put it OVER the category of full sized sedans in weight. It weighs 80–90kg more at most and all of that weight is in added electronics and sub systems like brake assist, steering assist, traction control, sophisticated airbag and control systems and the likes. The priority here being to stop a crash from happening in the first place by making the car more predictable and responsive. Redoing manufacturing process to make a chassis lighter or cheaper would be so expensive that the R&D costs will roll back any cost cuttings you get. However I will not rule out the possibility that this might still be practiced.

Coming back to the topic, consumer brands will try to get away with the bare minimum they can ship to consumers legally. That is why we have food safety board, vehicular emission control board, standard of weights and measures board, consumer products board et cetera. To ensure that the companies don’t ship toxic food to billions of unsuspecting consumers for the sake of profits. Remember the Maggi-MSG scandal? The norms do have loopholes which are regularly leveraged by firms.

 

[Karna_007]

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...


5 top Indian cars fail global NCAP safety test


The most notable four-wheeler names such as Hyundai Eon, Maruti Suzuki Eeco, Maruti Celerio, Mahindra Scorpio and three models of Renault Kwid failed in crash tests carried by Global New Car Assessment Programme (NCAP).

These seven cars scored zero stars for adults on safety parameters when these were crashed at 64 kmph speed.

"The Renault Kwid, Maruti Suzuki Celerio, Maruti Suzuki Eeco, Mahindra Scorpio and Hyundai Eon all showed low levels of adult occupant protection," said a statement from a UK-based safety watchdog.

https://www.firstpost.com/business/...26rm-V3-w44V0Y5PLodAdYjVpXZYbqb8aAn7VEALw_wcB

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...

He is telling, though quality of chinese car much improved, still higher end version is equivalent to basic version of foreign brands and people still not trust chinese cars !

Poor quality accessories in India main reason behind car fires

NEW DELHI: Use of non-genuine accessories (parts/ kits) caused almost 50% of all vehicle fires in 2013-14, according to automobile industry body, SIAM. The second major reason of such incidents is the ambient environment while 64% of fire cases involved diesel vehicles.
Presentations made by both private auto major and Automotive Research Association of India (ARAI) at a workshop on fire safety in vehicles organised by SIAM in Delhi this week also mentioned top 10 causes of car fires across the country.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...son-behind-car-fires/articleshow/43767633.cms

 

[Sugarcane]

Who said Chinese bikes are causing accidents due to quality ?

You implied in your post that it's because of Chinese motorbikes that accidents are happening like accidents weren't happening when overcharged Japanese bike were on roads

 

[!eon]

Meh! Not so different here, kids getting themselves killed. Otoh some states have better control over it. Can't comment on your case.

But when a cheap ride in 10000 is available, it's like kids want to go in toilet on bike
I am in Pakistan now and have seen three fatal bike accidents in two days in my village. One kid lost his foot, other crushed his thigh, while injuring two other people, third one hit another bike, both died.
I mostly live in Germany and don't see so much accidents in whole year as my 2 3 months in Pakistan.

My point is, when these cheap Chinese vehicles would be in hands of kids, these accidents will also shoot up, as there is no authority to enforce law.

You implied in your post that it's because of Chinese motorbikes that accidents are happening like accidents weren't happening when overcharged Japanese bike were on roads

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chin...plant-in-pakistan.562417/page-2#post-10555553

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Are Indians Less Quality Conscious? - Group Discussion - IndiaBIX


80 percent middle class and poor people want to buy lower quality products only. ...... Indians are lessquality conscious the best example is "Nano" car everyone ...

https://www.indiabix.com/group-discussion/are-indians-less-quality-conscious/

He is telling, though quality of chinese car much improved, still higher end version is equivalent to basic version of foreign brands and people still not trust chinese cars !

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...





Food served by Indian Railways not fit for human consumption: CAG

The Comptroller and Auditor General (CAG) of India has said in its audit report that the food served by the Indian Railways to its passengers is unfit for consumption by humans.

The CAG has pointed out several loopholes in managing the catering services. It has pulled up the Railways for mismanagement of catering services, poor quality food and monopolisation that has led to compromise in quality.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...-for-human-consumption-cag-1025625-2017-07-21







CAG REPORT ON RAILWAYS FOOD: THINGS TO KNOW

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   • Joint inspections by audit teams exposed inefficiency and malpractices relating to hygiene even a survey by the audit exposed that 75 per cent of the passengers felt hygiene and cleanliness was either average or poor.

 

[Karna_007]

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...









Poor quality accessories in India main reason behind car fires

NEW DELHI: Use of non-genuine accessories (parts/ kits) caused almost 50% of all vehicle fires in 2013-14, according to automobile industry body, SIAM. The second major reason of such incidents is the ambient environment while 64% of fire cases involved diesel vehicles.
Presentations made by both private auto major and Automotive Research Association of India (ARAI) at a workshop on fire safety in vehicles organised by SIAM in Delhi this week also mentioned top 10 causes of car fires across the country.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...son-behind-car-fires/articleshow/43767633.cms

Deming & Japan Quality Medal winner Mahindra Tractors launches its tractor range in Turkey

http://www.mahindra.com/news-room/press-release/1294142899

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Deming & Japan Quality Medal winner Mahindra Tractors launches its tractor range in Turkey

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...




India has Poor Quality Roads and Highways

Although India is home to over fifty national highways the sad state of affairs is that most national highways are just two lanes or even lesser. The design of the highways is a matter of great importance since only properly designed highways can withstand the pressure created by heavy vehicles. Apart from being narrow they are also highly congested since quite a large part of India's freight is carried on these highways.

Rural Areas have Bad Roads

India is home to quite a large rural population. Most of the rural areas in India do not have access to all weather roads and hence have a tough time during the monsoons. This problem is more significant in the northern and northeastern part of the country. The government in its 11th five year plan has allotted Rs 100,000 crore for the construction and maintenance of roads in villages.

Urban Areas are Severely Congested

Traffic is one common problem in most of the metropolitans today. Cities like Mumbai, Delhi, and Kolkata are extremely congested during office hours. This is mainly because of industrialization and the sudden rise in vehicle ownership over the last few years. If India wants to be in tandem with the growing traffic, the government will need to construct around 15,000 km expressways in the next ten years

Currently India's annual expenditure on the road sector is around Rs 20,000-30,000 crore . One of the major reasons behind this huge expenditure on maintaining roads is due to the problems of overloading and poor maintenance.

http://www.badroadsinindia.com/

 

[Karna_007]

Why do Indian cars offer poor safety features?

Also the premise of the question is misleading. The western spec Suzuki Swift doesn’t weigh 1,000kg more, that would be stupid and put it OVER the category of full sized sedans in weight. It weighs 80–90kg more at most and all of that weight is in added electronics and sub systems like brake assist, steering assist, traction control, sophisticated airbag and control systems and the likes. The priority here being to stop a crash from happening in the first place by making the car more predictable and responsive. Redoing manufacturing process to make a chassis lighter or cheaper would be so expensive that the R&D costs will roll back any cost cuttings you get. However I will not rule out the possibility that this might still be practiced.

Coming back to the topic, consumer brands will try to get away with the bare minimum they can ship to consumers legally. That is why we have food safety board, vehicular emission control board, standard of weights and measures board, consumer products board et cetera. To ensure that the companies don’t ship toxic food to billions of unsuspecting consumers for the sake of profits. Remember the Maggi-MSG scandal? The norms do have loopholes which are regularly leveraged by firms.

Proud royal enfield

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Deming & Japan Quality Medal winner Mahindra Tractors launches its tractor range in Turkey

Why Cars sold in India expensive & poor quality

http://forum.autocarindia.com/topic/3896-why-cars-sold-in-india-expensive-poor-quality/











Maruti-Suzuki Sells Worst Quality Cars In India

Ever since India started liking cars, Maruti-Suzuki India Limited is leading the pack since then. Their Brand penetration is so strong that most of their cars are are market hit irrespective of safety credentials they carry. To support huge country like India, they built strong service network across India. Also typical Indian car buyer weighs more on price, mileage, features, service. Safety is almost no-thought for most of them. It is exactly the same thing which Maruti-Suzuki tried to exploit, knowingly putting countless Indian lives at stakes.

Why Maruti-Suzuki is worst car maker & fooling millions of Indians, let’s find it out.

https://indiacarfacts.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/maruti-suzuki-sells-worst-quality-cars-in-india/

 

[Karna_007]

Quality and Indian are two separate things...they don't get together, though the cosmetics are good, what lies beneath the bonnet, beneath that cosmetics are crap and worst quality in safety, no wonder more Indians die in road accidents than any other country, about 1.6 lacs per year...




India has Poor Quality Roads and Highways

Although India is home to over fifty national highways the sad state of affairs is that most national highways are just two lanes or even lesser. The design of the highways is a matter of great importance since only properly designed highways can withstand the pressure created by heavy vehicles. Apart from being narrow they are also highly congested since quite a large part of India's freight is carried on these highways.

Rural Areas have Bad Roads

India is home to quite a large rural population. Most of the rural areas in India do not have access to all weather roads and hence have a tough time during the monsoons. This problem is more significant in the northern and northeastern part of the country. The government in its 11th five year plan has allotted Rs 100,000 crore for the construction and maintenance of roads in villages.

Urban Areas are Severely Congested

Traffic is one common problem in most of the metropolitans today. Cities like Mumbai, Delhi, and Kolkata are extremely congested during office hours. This is mainly because of industrialization and the sudden rise in vehicle ownership over the last few years. If India wants to be in tandem with the growing traffic, the government will need to construct around 15,000 km expressways in the next ten years

Currently India's annual expenditure on the road sector is around Rs 20,000-30,000 crore . One of the major reasons behind this huge expenditure on maintaining roads is due to the problems of overloading and poor maintenance.

http://www.badroadsinindia.com/

Nissan India Exports 5,00,000th Car(3 year back)