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China's high-speed rail goes global in 2014

Lack of strategic depth on our part. Nevertheless, we wish the best and auspicious success to our friends in China !

You're a quite diplomate with your statement, I only wish that China and Japan could have a greater cooperation over the High speed rail project so Japan can have a fair share over HSR project around the world instead of competing each other but seem that this unlikely in short future.
 
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Europeans becoming worried that united Chinese companies can eventually put them our of business.

Now they are using anti trust laws against them. But I don't see what can be done because the merger is done under China's business laws.

Yeah they will lose most if not all the business to China
They will apply the law if the Chinese company after merger tries to tender for projects in their territories. Outside of their realm, they cant enforce the law where they have no jurisdiction

I can recall a case of Microsoft:
Microsoft loses EU antitrust fine appeal | Technology | The Guardian

It is a stupid move by the Europeans. I think there are still other ways to go around that even if they win the anti trust law in their own territories
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Yeah they will lose most if not all the business to China
They will apply the law if the Chinese company after merger tries to tender for projects in their territories. Outside of their realm, they cant enforce the law where they have no jurisdiction

I can recall a case of Microsoft:
Microsoft loses EU antitrust fine appeal | Technology | The Guardian

It is a stupid move by the Europeans. I think there are still other ways to go around that even if they win the anti trust law in their own territories
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the two chinese companies can secretly collaborate regardless
 
You're a quite diplomate with your statement, I only wish that China and Japan could have a greater cooperation over the High speed rail project so Japan can have a fair share over HSR project around the world instead of competing each other but seem that this unlikely in short future.

The world is a pie, my friend. Sometimes, its necessary to feed each other , and share the piece(s). ;)

Let's say you have a chocolate cheese cake slice and I got a pineapple cheese cake slice. I want to try your chocolate cheese cake slice and you want to try some of my pineapple. What do we do? We share with each other that way we get the best of both worlds.

Besides, eating the same thing gets boring, doesnt it?

@Genesis ....LOL
 
The world is a pie, my friend. Sometimes, its necessary to feed each other , and share the piece(s). ;)

Let's say you have a chocolate cheese cake slice and I got a pineapple cheese cake slice. I want to try your chocolate cheese cake slice and you want to try some of my pineapple. What do we do? We share with each other that way we get the best of both worlds.

Besides, eating the same thing gets boring, doesnt it?

@Genesis ....LOL

Indeed the world is a pie but Instead of compete to eat all the pie, if we can cooperate to share the pie is even better for both, zero sum game is not a healthty competition for any nation, China and Japan could have combined both strengh to earn more HSR projects around the world: while Japan provides High speed train and we build high speed rail, that will be the win-win formula, this is my personal opinion.
 
The world is a pie, my friend. Sometimes, its necessary to feed each other , and share the piece(s). ;)

Let's say you have a chocolate cheese cake slice and I got a pineapple cheese cake slice. I want to try your chocolate cheese cake slice and you want to try some of my pineapple. What do we do? We share with each other that way we get the best of both worlds.

Besides, eating the same thing gets boring, doesnt it?

@Genesis ....LOL
I don't like sharing, I rather take your pie as well as have mine. See I have the best of both world, I have all the pies, but as an added bonus, I get to see you with no pies, that just makes everything taste so much better.
 
I don't like sharing, I rather take your pie as well as have mine. See I have the best of both world, I have all the pies, but as an added bonus, I get to see you with no pies, that just makes everything taste so much better.

Stop being Mr. Grinch !:mad:
 
Six African countries bonded by China's high-speed rail dream|Markets|Business|WantChinaTimes.com

Six African countries bonded by China's high-speed rail dream
Staff Reporter | 2015-01-13 | 10:12 (GMT+8)

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A high-speed rail in Hohhot, Inner Mongolia, Jan. 8. (File photo/Xinhua)

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China has signed a deal to build a 480km railway link between Kenya's largest seaport of Mombasa and the capital Nairobi — the first stage of a line that will eventually link Tanzania, Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi and South Sudan, reports the Beijing News.

The railway, built at a cost of US$3.8 billion, is the first to be built in Kenya in a century and will be designed with a transportation capacity of 25 million metric tons, based on China's rail standards.

The cooperation between China, Kenya and other African countries represents the reciprocity between developing countries and mutual assistance between China and its friends, China's foreign minister Wang Yi said on Jan. 10 in Kenya on the first stop of an Africa tour.

The agreement was signed when Premier Li Keqiang visited Kenya in May 2014. and marks a stride by China toward helping to build a high-speed railway that could link all the capitals of the six countries.

China is in talks with other countries concerning the construction of 20 high-speed rail projects. Under the "one belt, one road" initiative, referring to the Silk Road Economic Belt and the 21st Century Maritime Silk Road trade route initiatives, China will build a complex network of high-speed rail passing through the whole of Asia.

China has made no secret of its desire to export its high-speed rail technology abroad after building the world's largest network — over 12,000 kilometers — in just seven years.

The country has been actively marketing its high-speed railway design around the world over the past five years.

Premier Li — dubbed by local media as China's high-speed rail salesman — has led a drive to promote its technology in Thailand, Britain, Russia and India.
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CNR division in Tangshan on track to move world - Headlines, features, photo and videos from ecns.cn|china|news|chinanews|ecns|cns

CNR division in Tangshan on track to move world
2015-02-17 10:01 China Daily Web Editor: Qin Dexing

High-speed trainmaker picks up steam in global operations, reports Lan Lan in Tangshan, Hebei.

Sun Binbin's family has worked for three generations for China's first railway factory, now owned by Tangshan Railway Vehicle Co, a subsidiary of CNR Corp. The factory is based about 150 kilometers from Beijing in Hebei province.

"My grandfather would be more than 90 years old if he still lived. My father retired from the same factory, and I work here, too," said Sun, 37.

But Sun is unlike the older generations of factory workers. She was one of the first female technicians with a high-level certification to train technicians welding aluminum alloy, and her signature is recognized globally.

She earned the certificate in Germany after several months of overseas study, and she has trained more than 500 technicians since then.

Sun and her students work on the bodies of multiple, high-speed electronic train units. The work involves the high precision, manual welding of nearly 100 types of sheet metals with a minimum thickness of 2mm.

The aluminum alloy car bodies have been exported to Europe and many other parts of the world.

The predecessor of the company Sun works for was founded in 1881 as a locomotive and rolling stock works. The factory in Tangshan has reshaped itself into a global supplier.

High-speed trains covering the Beijing-Tianjin, Beijing-Guangzhou and Guangzhou-Shenzhen routes, which travel as fast as 394 kilometers per hour, were made in the factory. Its products have been exported to more than 20 countries.

Assembly, including wiring, is another step that demands precision.

There are more than 100,000 wires and cables in one vehicle and they control functions such as traction, control and communications.

Like in ancient China, when some craftsmen carved their names in a corner of their handiwork, the wiring workers' names are included on many small yellow plates on cables inside high-speed trains assembled at the factory.

Hao Shuqing, a company executive, said thousands of such plates travel around the world with the vehicles.

"We require our workers to mark their name on all critical places. It's a kind of credit for them, and the information is input into a computer so we can track it if there's any problem," Hao said during a field trip to the plant.

Parent company CNR, one of the world's largest suppliers of railway transportation equipment, has exported its products to more than 84 countries and regions. CNR's exports were valued at $3 billion in 2014, up 68.6 percent year-on-year.

China is talking with 28 countries, including the United States, Russia, Brazil and Thailand, about supplying high-speed trains, said Yu Weiping, vice-president of CNR, who is in charge of the company's overseas business.

Yu said CNR is able to independently develop all critical technologies, including traction, braking and network control systems.

In addition to its national-level research and development centers in China, it has a traction and control system R&D center in the Czech Republic and a welding structure R&D center in the US state of Michigan. Plans call for a new R&D center in South Africa to provide products better adapted to local conditions.

"China has the most complicated and stringent operating environment for railways, so if rolling stock can operate well in China, usually it will be applicable to all kinds of environments in other countries," Yu said.

For example, the 2,264 km railway linking Harbin and Wuhan crosses several climatic zones with a temperature variance of 26 C.

Another example is the railway linking Wuhan and Guangzhou, which has more than 200 tunnels and bridges, a rarity worldwide.

By the end of 2014, China's railways measured 112,000 km, including 16,000 km of high-speed rail, and carried an average of about 2.32 billion passengers a year, according to officials.

The US will be the next strategic focus for CNR, Yu said. The company secured a 4.12 billion yuan ($659.38 million) contract last year to supply train cars to Boston's subway system, the first US rolling stock order for a Chinese company.

Some of the vehicles will be assembled at a Boston manufacturing facility that will be used as a base to assemble vehicles for other US cities, Yu said. The company said it also is looking at opportunities in cities such as New York and Washington.

It also will establish a manufacturing company in South Africa, he said. The company won a contract last year to supply 232 diesel locomotives to the country.

CNR delivered multiple electric units and subway trains used during the 2014 FIFA World Cup in Brazil. They were made at CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co.

With 27 subsidiaries, CNR has a production capacity of 1,000 units of electric and diesel locomotives; 4,000 high-speed train cars, metro cars and multiple units; and 30,000 freight wagons and other kind of wagons.

It has established joint ventures in the US, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Iran, India, Malaysia and Thailand.

CNR and CSR Corp, China's top two high-speed train manufacturers, have announced a plan to merge to become the world's largest train manufacturer. Shareholders will vote on the move on March 9.

Antitrust scrutiny in the international market is "an issue" facing the merger of the two biggest trainmakers in China, Yu said. They have established a working group to study future strategy and deal with issues related to domestic and international agencies and governmental bodies, he said.

"A successful merger of China's top two train manufacturers will avoid internal competition and form a combined competitive edge," he said.

The Boston contract won by CNR suggests that "Chinese railway technology is no longer seen as an obstacle to access the more demanding Western markets", said a recent report by Moody's Investors Service Inc.

"The merger of the two companies is negative for France-based Alstom, Canada-based Bombardier Inc and Germany-based Siemens Aktiengesellschaft because it will create a stronger competitor in the already competitive global market for railway and metro transportation equipment," said Roberto Pozzi, a senior credit officer of Moody's, in the report.

Both CNR and CSR have yet to win rolling stock contracts in the European market, which is a challenge given that the region has mature manufacturers and stringent requirements for market entry. Other Asian players such as Hitachi Ltd's Hitachi Rail and Hyundai Motor Co's Hyundai Rotem have gained a slice of the market.

"There is no barrier for CNR to go global because we have grasped all the core and critical technologies of railway transportation equipment," Yu said.

Exports of China's railway equipment hit 26.77 billion yuan in 2014, a year-on-year increase of 22.6 percent, according to the General Administration of Customs.
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For example, the 2,264 km railway linking Harbin and Wuhan crosses several climatic zones with a temperature variance of 26 C.

Another example is the railway linking Wuhan and Guangzhou, which has more than 200 tunnels and bridges, a rarity worldwide.

By the end of 2014, China's railways measured 112,000 km, including 16,000 km of high-speed rail, and carried an average of about 2.32 billion passengers a year, according to officials.

Such an engineering and logistics accomplishment!
 
China, Japan to build rail systems in Thailand
Xinhua, March 3, 2015

Eastern Thailand will be linked with other parts of the country by varied rail systems, confirmed Transport Minister Prajin Juntong on Tuesday.

Those rail systems include a Chinese-built medium-speed rail system which will link southern China with Thailand via northern Laos, a Japanese-built high-speed rail system and an extended Airport Link rail system, he said.

Different rail systems will keep Pattaya, Maptaput and other spots in the eastern region of the country connected with the capital in the next few years, according to the transport minister.

The 1.435-meter-wide, dual-track rail system will shuttle Chinese tourists and cargoes between Kunming, capital city of Yunnan province in southern China and the northeastern and eastern regions of Thailand.

The Chinese rail system is designed to cover 873 kilometers linking the Thai northeastern province of Nong Khai, across Mekong River from the Lao capital of Vientiane, with Kaeng Khoi junction in Thailand's central region from where one route will get down to Bangkok and the other route to Pattaya and Rayong.

The Japanese rail system is designed to transport travelers between Bangkok and Pattaya as well as a nearby Rayong province, according to Prajin.

Pattaya is largely viewed as a world-renowned seaside resort which draws millions of visitors and billions of U.S. dollars in a year while Maptaput locates manufacturing factories and petrochemical plants.

"The kind of investment capital to finance the construction of the Japanese rail system might be decided upon within this year. It remains to be seen whether the project should be run under Public-Private Partnership funding or a private firm should be accredited to do it," said the transport minister.

In addition, another Japanese high-speed rail project will be built to link the capital with Hua Hin, a flourishing tourist resort viewed as the gateway to southern Thailand.

The Thai government is yet to consult with the Japanese government about the 196-kilometer Bangkok-Pattaya and 211- kilometer Bangkok-Hua Hin rail projects, he said.

Meanwhile, a stretch of the existing Airport Link rail system will be built to link Suvarnabhumi and Don Muang airports in Bangkok with U-tapao airport in Rayong, he added.

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I am not sure if Junta really want to built train to China.
 
China Says Railway Cooperation with Thailand on Fast Track
2015-03-06

A senior Chinese railway official on Thursday dismissed rumors that the high-speed railway cooperation between Beijing and Bangkok has stalled, saying that it is going well.

The latest comment came amid recent media reports that China and Thailand suspended their high-speed railway cooperation over Thailand's political turmoil and foreign competition.

"Our cooperation is desirable," said Sheng Guangzu, general manager of the China Railway Corporation (CRC). "We are rapidly advancing our cooperation."


Chinese and Thai governments agreed to build Thailand's first standard-gauge railway lines with a total length of more than 800 km last year.

China has been encouraging projects that export Chinese industrial capacity and equipment, including the high-speed train that is the pride of the rising world's second largest economy, under a "win-win" principle.

On Thursday, China announced that it will invest at least 800 billion yuan (130 billion U.S. dollars) in railway construction this year.

Sheng, a deputy to the National People's Congress, China's top legislature, said that the investment will be mainly targeting the country's vast central and western regions that is lagging far behind the southeastern coasts in infrastructure construction.

In 2013, China dismantled its Ministry of Railways into administrative and commercial arms to reduce bureaucracy and improve railway service efficiency. CRC is responsible for railway transportation dispatch and command, freight and passenger transport business management and railway construction.

Sheng said that CRC will consider going listed in the stock market if conditions are right to make the railway giant operate in a more market-oriented manner.

"We are also considering the mixed ownership reform," he said. "We hope that through the investment and financing system reform, more private investment can participate in China's railway construction."
 
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