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The following is an old news article. I post it to get people's, specially Chinese members, opinion on this issue of North East India, where native people there do not feel like they are a part of Indian "mainland", which is situated to the east of 23 km wide Siliguri corridor, a narrow strip of land between Bangladesh and Nepal, that connects North East states with rest of "mainland" India.

Is China Backing Indian Insurgents? | The Diplomat

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Is China Backing Indian Insurgents?
March 22, 2011
By Lyle Morris

The arrest in January of a Chinese spy who allegedly met insurgents in the northeast of the country may suggest a broader effort to destabilize India.

On January 25, 2011, Wang Qing, a Chinese spy disguised as a TV reporter, was arrested and deported after she reportedly visited the headquarters of the National Socialist Council of Nagalim (Isak-Muivah) or NSCN-IM—one of India’s largest and most troublesome insurgent groups. Indian authorities said Qing admitted to being a spy for the People's Security Bureau, a Chinese intelligence agency, and that she had conducted a secretive four-hour-long, closed-door meeting with Thuingaleng Muivah, a key rebel leader of the NSCN-IM who is currently holding reconciliation talks with the Indian government. The rebel group, however, insisted that it was holding talks with the Indian Government in good faith and that it has had ‘no relations with China.’

While the news attracted little attention, it’s hard to see the incident as inconsequential for Sino-Indian relations, as it suggests potential links between China’s intelligence agencies with insurgent groups in India’s volatile Northeast region. More worrisome for New Delhi, though, is the fact that Qing’s case is only one of several recently that suggest an attempt by Beijing to step up efforts at undermining peace and increasing leverage over India as both countries grapple with sensitive border negotiations.

Such dealings were recently revealed in detail in a 100-page Indian government report, accessed by Outlook India. The report pertains to the October 2010 arrest by Indian authorities of Anthony Shimray, a key official and major arms procurer of the NSCN-IM, who had been operating out of Bangkok. During his interrogation, the report alleged that the NSCN-IM was offered the chance to purchase surface-to-air missiles (SAMs) by Chinese agents working on behalf of the Chinese intelligence agencies.

The negotiations for the deal reportedly took place in Chengdu in December 2009, with the agents asking $1 million for the missiles as part of a package that included training the rebels in the technical know-how to use them. However, the deal reportedly fell through as the rebel groups couldn’t raise the money. Shimray also admitted that in return for Chinese support, Naga insurgents had been giving away details of Indian army deployments in the China-India border region of Twang in Arunachal Pradesh, including positions of Indian aircraft and missiles.

If substantiated, Shimray’s revelations would mark for Indian officials a clear and troubling increase in covert Chinese intelligence activity in India’s internal affairs. China has maintained that it doesn’t interfere in India’s internal affairs, adhering closely to the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence—a series of agreements in 1954 put forward by Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai governing relations with India. But China also remains deeply distrustful of Indian intentions along the sensitive southern tip of the Sino-Indian border, and may perceive India’s complex web of insurgent groups in that area as an opportunity to undermine India’s grip on power there.

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Reference Articles:
The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Frontpage | Chinese ‘spy’ detained but deported without noise
Remote Control Rebels | Ajit Doval
Chinese agents offered missiles to NE rebels - Hindustan Times
Naga rebels giving out Indian Army positions to China | NDTV.com

http://www.hindustantimes.com/India...its-aid-to-NE-insurgents/Article1-810977.aspx

‘China given evidence of its aid to NE insurgents’
Sanjib Kr Baruah, Hindustan Times
New Delhi, February 13, 2012

First Published: 23:03 IST(13/2/2012)
Last Updated: 00:54 IST(14/2/2012)

India has given China evidence — on several occasions — of its involvement in aiding insurgency movements in India’s northeast, government officials have told HT.

“There was evidence that insurgents from India’s northeast were meeting Chinese intelligence officials regularly in Yunnan (China) and in Nepal. We tracked top NSCN (National Socialist Council of Nagaland) arms procurer Anthony Shimray who had ordered a massive supply of weapons. The procedures involved in shipment, export orders, regulatory compliances, etc are impossible without China’s involvement,” said GK Pillay, former home secretary.
“We have also given China details of Ulfa (United Liberation Front of Asom) chief Paresh Barua’s travel to Yunnan, including airline tickets, period of stay, etc,” he said.

In the past, India had always distinguished between state and non-state actors when it came to Chinese involvement.

“On several occasions, we have given concrete proof of certain elements from the Chinese establishment aiding northeast militants. The Chinese government, at least at the prefecture (provincial) level, was involved in such activity,” said a senior government official, who did not want to be named.

The evidence was also submitted to the ministry of external affairs, which took it up during the January 16-17 talks in New Delhi between national security adviser Shivshankar Menon and Dai Bingguo, China’s special representative, the official said.

The evidence mainly pertained to regular interactions of the insurgent leaders with Chinese intelligence agencies regarding supply and shipment of weapons to rebel outfits like Ulfa, NSCN, United National Liberation Front (UNLF) and the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) of Manipur.

Intelligence reports say fresh consignments — comprising weapons like Heckler and Koch rifles (HK 33), T81 rifles — have landed in the hands of the rebels in substantial numbers.

What is more worrying for India is the coming together of forces. “We have information that top Chinese intelligence officials have told all these outfits to unite under a single umbrella and devise joint strategies. We are witnessing that unification move now,” the official said.
 
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Another old article:

`China should break India into 20-30 states`

'China should break India into 20-30 states'
Last Updated: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 23:46 78

New Delhi: In an article likely to raise Indian hackles, a Chinese strategist contends that Beijing should break up India into 20-30 independent states with the help of “friendly countries” like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan.

The publication of the article nearly coincided with the 13th round of India-China border talks that ended in New Delhi Saturday on a positive note, with Beijing emphasizing the need to build strategic trust and elevate strategic partnership to a new level to include coordination on global issues.

Written in Chinese, the article, “If China takes a little action, the so-called Great Indian Federation can be broken up,” is published in the new edition of the website of the China International Institute for Strategic Studies (CIISS), an influential think tank that advises Beijing on global and strategic issues.

According to DS Rajan, director of the Chennai Centre for China Studies, Chennai, Zhan Lue, the author of the article, argues that the “so-called” Indian nation cannot be considered as one having existed in history as it relies primarily on Hindu religion for unity.

The article says that India could only be termed a “Hindu religious state” that is based on caste exploitation and which is coming in the way of modernisation.

The writer goes on to argue that with these caste cleavages in mind, China in its own interest and the progress of whole of Asia should join forces with “different nationalities” like Assamese, Tamils and Kashmiris and support them in establishing independent nation states of their own.


In particular, the article asks Beijing to support the United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA), a militant separatist group in the Indian northeast, to it achieve independence for Assam from India.

Furthermore, the article suggests that China can give political support to Bangladesh to encourage ethnic Bengalis in India get rid of “Indian control” and unite with Bangladesh as one Bengali nation.

If this is not possible, the creation of at least another free Bengali nation state as a friendly neighbour of Bangladesh would be desirable for the purpose of weakening India’s expansion and threat aimed at forming a “unified South Asia”, the article argues.

The article recommends India’s break up into 20-30 nation-states like in Europe and contends that if the consciousness of “nationalities” in India could be aroused, social reforms in South Asia can be achieved, the caste system can be eradicated and the region can march towards prosperity.

The Chinese strategist suggests that to split India, China can seek support of friendly countries including Pakistan, Nepal and Bhutan.


China should encourage Bangladesh to give a push to the independence of West Bengal and recover the 90,000 sq km territory in Arunachal Pradesh, which China calls Southern Tibet, says Rajan who has analysed the article for the Chennai-based think tank.

“The write-up could not have been published without the permission of the Chinese authorities, but it is sure that Beijing will wash its hands out of this if the matter is taken up by New Delhi,” says Rajan.

“It has generally been seen that China is speaking in two voices - its diplomatic interlocutors have always shown understanding in their dealings with their Indian counterparts, but its media is pouring venom on India,” says Rajan.


Which one to believe is a question confronting the public opinion and even policy makers in India, Rajan says, adding that ignoring such an article will “prove to be costly” for India.

Govt downplays suggestion

The Indian Government however described as an "expression of individual opinion" comments by the Chinese analyst.

At the same time, India emphasised that "opinions and assessment of the state of India-China relations should be expressed after careful judgement based on long-term interests of building a stable relationship between the two countries."

External Affairs Ministry spokesman Vishnu Prakash said India and China have strategic and cooperative partnership, and the multi-sectoral engagement and the pace of bilateral exchanges have gained momentum in recent years.

"The article in question appears to be an expression of individual opinion and does not accord with the officially stated position of China on bilateral relations conveyed to us on several occasions, including at the highest level, most recently by the State Councillor Dai Bingguo during the visit to India last week," he said, reacting to the analyst's views.

"We continue to maintain that opinion and assessment on the state of India-China relations should be expressed after careful judgement based on long-term interests of building a stable relationship between the two countries," Prakash said.

"The Chinese side has conveyed to us that in approaching India-China relations, China abides by the Five Principles of Peaceful Co-existence. One of these principles stresses respect for territorial integrity and sovereignty," Prakash said.

IANS input

First Published: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 23:46
 
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India destroyed relations with China in 1959, by hosting our largest separatist goup (Tibetan government in exile)... even while claiming to be our friends.

So they deserve everything they have coming to them.
 
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China government is not fool, india put the hand on Tibet, we also have counteraction, And in india, it is not hard to find the seperatist, and if China really decide to separate indian north east part from india, it is much easy, I very like that narrow "neck", it is sexy!!
If the war between china and india happens again, China must use the separatist, of course, they also use us, we have the common goal partly.
 
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India destroyed relations with China in 1959, by hosting our largest separatist goup (Tibetan government in exile)... even while claiming to be our friends.

So they deserve everything they have coming to them.

It's not like they had a choice. Indians don't even want the Lamas there. However, rejecting them would be the equivalent of kowtowing to Communist China, which is unacceptable. India isn't South Africa or Pakistan.

Indian policymakers were quite arrogant back in the 1960s, with both American and Soviet support after the Sino-Soviet split. The Tibetan Armed Rebellion and the subsequent fleeing was a Chinese mistake, not India's. The 1962 humiliation was a simple case of India being too aggressive with nothing to back it up. When it realized that the Soviets and Americans were only paying lip service, it had already lost.

Indians should get over 1962, instead of dreaming to take revenge. Chinese should stop dreaming about getting the Dalai back from India. The 2 could be friends thereafter.
 
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It's not like they had a choice. Indians don't even want the Lamas there. However, rejecting them would be the equivalent of kowtowing to Communist China, which is unacceptable. India isn't South Africa or Pakistan.

They kowtow to us all the time anyway, what is the difference?

Mihir Sharma: India's shameful kowtow to China - Business Standard

(The article above is from March 2012).

Indians should get over 1962, instead of dreaming to take revenge. Chinese should stop dreaming about getting the Dalai back from India. The 2 could be friends thereafter.

That is hilarious. Good joke. :rofl:
 
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Does the North-East Belong in India ?

Does the North-East Belong in India ?
by NE BLOGGER on APRIL 1, 2011

I first discovered that ‘we’ were seen as ‘different’ when we moved to Chandigarh. I was 16, and rather surprised when we were visited at lunchtime by Mrs. Khunjoo , who lived in the next apartment. Surprised because we don’t generally expect visitors at lunchtime. Certainly not visitors who spring lithely over the balconies as Mrs Khunjoo did.

“Will you have lunch” my mother , ever hospitable asked her, the first time she manifested.

“No no sister,” she said. “i just want to see.”

“What do you want to see?”,I asked.

“No, please , just what you are eating ?”

She advanced upon our table. My Mother uncovered our serving dishes. She stared at it like some mystery was to be uncovered.

“Arre!” said Mrs Khujroo. “Rice? Dal?”

We do these things. We eat rice and dal but Mrs Khujroo was hoping that she would see something exotic.

“Do people from Nagaland really eat dogs?” asked my landlady when she first learnt that I was from the North East. She was offended when I walked out of the room. Mrs Vaidya (named changed to protect the innocent, namely me) failed to even realise that what she said could be offensive. Mrs Vaidya represents mainland India’s opinion about the seven states of North East India. But at least she has given me a place to stay. Many other North-Eastern students have been turned away because they don’t “look like us”. The other thing is institutional. Don’t believe it? Consider this.

One of India’s proudest moments was at the opening ceremony of the XIX Commonwealth Games. It was one of those moments when one feels proud to be part of such a great Indian Union. The Indian contingent marched in led by Abhinav Bindra proudly carrying our Indian flag. Before him, the signboard holder was wearing the Mizo tradition Puanchei dress. Such a proud moment for the North East to be finally recognised at a event of this scale.

The very next morning the Times of India front page had a photograph of the Indian contingent. “All the teams were led out by girls wearing saris in different styles, except for the Indian team, which was heralded by a girl in a Naga dress.” So much for a “knowledgeable” leading daily.

No North Eastern student in a mainland metropolitan city would be surprised by this sheer ignorance. It has become a part of their lives and an accepted fact that they do not belong here. Nor has the mainland made them feel like they’re part of this country. Hundreds of students come every year from the North East to seek admission in Delhi University. The joy of seeking admission is often cut short by the difficulties faced in the capital. Racial discrimination, language barriers, sexual harassment and trouble finding accommodation are only some of the numerous problems.

“How do you guys contribute to the economy besides tea and a few bombs to seek attention?” says an educated, upper middle class boy in a conversation we had about the various states in India. Of course, it did not matter that just one state, Assam, produces 55 per cent of India’s tea and 60 per cent of its plywood and a substantial part of its crude oil. Of course, he failed to name three out of the seven states. Of course, he didn’t even care to know the names of the capitals of the states. His attitude was clear; how did it matter.

“With a name like ***-am, what do you guys expect?” he says.

“Have you ever been to the North-East?” I asked.

“Are you nuts?” he asks, this brave mainlander, always willing to mock the name of a state to a woman. “Dude, you guys are like dangerous. I might get killed or abducted or something.”

But then I don’t expect much better from him. He thinks Muslims should “go back where they came from”. (I won’t go into what it is like to be Muslim and North-Eastern. Not enough room. Not enough time.)

To the mainland, the seven states of the North-East are ‘sisters’. This term reeks of paternalism, a patriarchal way of reducing seven independent and diverse states into a single identity. This is why I get really angry when the media talks about the problems of the North-East. Manipur is not Assam. The problems of Meghalaya are different from the problems of Arunachal Pradesh. Trying to work out a single solution that will be inclusive is like trying to find one cure for all ailments.

Let’s consider what happens when Shabana Azmi decides to fast for the rights of slum dwellers facing eviction. The media arrive. The politicians make promises. And within a week, Ms Azmi can return to her biriani. Meanwhile Irom Sharmila has entered the eleventh year of her superhuman fast, protesting the indefensible Armed Forces Special Powers Act (AFSPA) that has been imposed in Manipur and most of the Northeast since 1980.The Act allows the army to use force, arrest or shoot anyone on the mere suspicion that someone has committed or was about to commit a cognisable offence. The Act also prohibits any legal or judicial proceedings against army personnel without the sanction of the Central Government. Is this how our own country wants to treat its citizens? When the government imposes such measures, it only speaks of the centre’s failure as a governing body. Even as the entire country marks the anniversary of Mumbai 26/11, most mainland Indians remain ignorant of the fact that hundreds of their brothers and sisters that die every year of government action.

Some argue that it is the sheer physical isolation that makes it impossible for mainland India to find out about anything about the North-East. States like Tripura and Arunachal and Mizoram aren’t even connected by the railways let alone any other form of infrastructural and educational development. Nitin Gokhale, an NDTV journalist who has written extensively about the North East and its problems says, “Physical isolation from the mainland has aggravated the already existing mental quarantine”. So we don’t even exist and if we do we’re not part of India.

What does it take to qualify to be an Indian? When Nehru spoke about our tryst with destiny, was he thinking the North East? When the Jana Gana Mana was adopted as the National Anthem, did anyone think of the North East? Is anyone thinking right now ?

NB : This is post by Leilah Zeenat Hazarika from North East India, living in Mumbai. Her twitter account is : Like the Song (@Leilah_zeenat) on Twitter. We encourage you to follow her to get updates about North East India.

The original post is found in her Facebook Notes here.

Some interesting comments (I did not include comments from "mainland Indians" except for a few):

Puanthanmei Panmei March 20, 2012 at 1:16 pm
YES , North -East is a direction, with respect to KOLKATA . When th British rule India,Kolkata was the Capital of British India .Those indigenous people living in N-E wrt kolkata are TIBETO- BURMAN, race and are NOT INDIAN for many centuries. When the expansion of British India colonies took placed in late 19 century, the British India rule N-E.
After WW -II the Britisher Gave freedom in 14th August 1947.But The INDIAN GOVT. forcefully merge NE into INDIAN Teritory. AFTER THE BRITISHER LEFT .

P. Elangovan April 2, 2011 at 2:32 pm
You’re right, the NE is meant to have been independent, but the British rule brought it into india which is what happened to Tamil Nadu as well. india is, at its core, just a northern narrow minded pastureland with no room for pluralism, multiculturalism and progressive thinking. The discrimination you mention is identical to what I encountered up in the north, and I am not even different looking from the cowbelt denizens, purely because I speak Tamil and no hindy.

It is time we looked at the future of our own countries and steer clear of india which is clearly destined to an embattled future. india’s enemies, i.e., Pakistan and China, are not our enemies. Therein lies the key.

samantha chongmwin April 27, 2011 at 10:12 am
i don’t know..i am from nagaland….i went to mumbai some years before one guy came up to me and asked me from which country do u belong ? what a silly question….i told of course india…he told from where…i told nagaland…he told that…u are a guest of honour for us…as if i were a foreigner…i told what an idiot u are do we say people coming from mumbai to northeast like that he instantly came up with the question why do u people from northeast look like chinky kind u know ..i instantly walked away disgusted cause he offended me enough to make me angry….

khasiman May 8, 2011 at 2:38 pm
historically northeast is not a part of india .the indian forcefully annexed it after their independence from the brits ,just like what china did to tibet,we have no indian quality.And now they are colonising us.

khasiman May 11, 2011 at 4:32 pm
a pack of indian ,ugly ,blackie, dirty ,******,indian sucks. i am from northeast i don’t consider myself as indian we have our own identity ,we have our own history,nothing related to india. please don’t force yourself into being indian . no one like it not even the indian .

Ashamed Indian of how Nagas were treated August 10, 2011 at 2:46 pm
A created identity will never work, they have their own identity that they have carried for hundreds of years. Indian is considered as a multiple personality disorder syndrome. Where will this madness end then ? Keep expanding the definition to cover Afghans, Arabs, Europeans, Burmese, Chinese in the end ? Somewhere the boundaries have to be drawn. Thousands of stars shine bright at night, each one having it’s own identity and own beauty, to see them the sun has to go away, in the brightness of one sun, all these stars vanish. To impose an Idea on them, of “India”, thousands and thousands were killed. A country that itself has confusion about it’s identity before the world and can’t even keep peace within itself, what sort of an entity can provide peace to occupied tribes ? Who created these boundaries? Who decides them? Hinduism? Nimrod? who ? How many of them have to die to make Indians feel good about themselves ? Murdering human beings or kidnapping some one and claiming them to be your son or daughter or brother won’t work. Let them go, and let them have a referendum to decide wether they want to join with this created super state or stand on their own. As a people they can decide that, just as “Indians”, or whatever 2000 ethnic groups in it are , don’t want europeans to decide for them.

surandash urikhimbam August 13, 2011 at 6:18 am
its better if north east is separated from india

the definer August 28, 2011 at 5:29 am
Keep expanding your definition of “Indian’ to cover Arabs, Europeans, and Latin Americans. People arn’t interested in your created multiple personality disorder syndrome , confused of your own identity. A nation is defined by it’s culture, borders, language, heritage, blood links, ancestral identity, familial ties.

If “South East Asians” are “Indians”, then, “Indians” are Turks , as the Turks and Afghans and Persians had their empire down there. You can take someone else’s daughter and kidnap her, and rape her repeatedly, and keep telling her, she is your daughter, won’t make it your daughter.

A created nation-state , created in 1947. We all have our own identities, that our forefathers gave us, not New Delhi. This whole “Indian” thing never existed in the past, forgieners put this name , in reality each nation-kingdom had it’s own identity , each tribe it’s own.

Nations keep changing, and it’s boundaries keep changing, I am sure tomorow, russia’s boundary can extend south wards and you can become russians. But the blood in you won’t change would it ?

Sachet Upadhya October 14, 2011 at 8:25 pm
Chitrakut,
You claim whole Far East Asia was part of indian empire. which indiam empire are you talking about? I agree Far Eatern countires especially Khemers in combodia practised a form of “Sanatan Dharma” but they still had their own culture. It was not by any means Indian Empire.
During the medival times there was no such thing as india or hindu, these names were given to people of sub-continent by European and Muslim invaders. Before Muslim and European invasion different kinds of “Sanatan Dharma ” was practised by people from central asia to present day combodia.
According to you claim everything from central asia to combodia should be India which is totally bogus. Point is different people and culture can practise same religion it does not mean they are all the same people.
Just my two cents..

Shahid September 1, 2011 at 4:14 am
Hello Chitrakut, I can tell you about many non-arabs who live in Saudi Arabia,mecca,Medina,etc. Just becoz Hinduism doesn’t allow Dalits( whom it considers ****** subhuman fouth class animals) into Brahmin temples,doesn’t mean an Egalitarian religion like Islam also has that practice. Islamic world from Spain to Indonesia has much more diversity that India has……. Although I respect India,i do not see Hindus respecting Muslim world. Islam is a great religion and some blabbering by you is doing nothing but fooling your own self! Anyways IT WAS MUSLIMS WHO RULED INDIA AND BROUGHT PROSPERITY TO IT,When we ruled,India had 25% share in the world trade and no one could even think of attacking India.It was the traitor Marathas along with Nizams who helped Brits to attack Tipu Sultan who was defending this country.This helped the Brits establish footprints in India.They themselves considered the Tipu’s ISLAMIC kingdom the Last MAJOR obstacle in their path to India’s complete capture..
As far as NE is concerned, EVEN Aurangzeb couldn’t capture it so it must be Given Freedom as INDIA has done INJUSTICE to them.

RUSHIKA October 11, 2011 at 4:22 am
wtf is the prob if we eat dogs …yes we eat silkworms …ants..any prob itz our food
man ….if tis goes on lyk tis we dont want 2 b apart of u …
no ones beggin for ur attention or respect

james January 16, 2012 at 4:25 am
aftr reading all the commnts ..i
came at a point tat indians have
treated people of NE v.badly ..n
nw also they do ,may be it has
lessen but but..its v.poor thnkng
of an Indian.
Govt.of india should take care of
every state especialy
Tripura..becoz tat land belongs
to Tripuri tribe..dan how can a
bengali refugee is leading a
state..n those people are
cuming 4m bangladesh..through
them out of country ..As Bengali
leads in WB,Marathi leads
Maharastra,Bihari leads Bihar
etc etc etc dan why a Tripuri or
Dberma is nt leading Tripura??
if indian govt. and indian people
cant treat or except The people
of NE india as a true indian
brother and sister than i think its
better to be seperated.
and that doesnt mean tat NE
should Be added to China,its
true that people looks same.but
Chinese may also treat NE like
Tibet. .better to form a seperate
COUNTRY Or INDIAN
govt.should change the
situation Or Chinese can take NE
giving a surety of proper
Independence.
No nid to fight
What to do is v.simple just take
public votes and comments and
do as what the people of NE
wants.
thats it!
all what i want is do not capture
any1s right.
i m jst talkng the reality.
not with any1 s favour..

Keith April 30, 2012 at 3:35 pm
Subhodip u r wrong about north east states begging to merge with india for protection.maharaj budhachandra of manipur was forced to sign at gun point.
Now we r part of india.

Disruptor May 2, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Oh come on man! North east is not a part of india.just accept it
 
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Thanks for the reading, was not aware of this situation. India is rarely the topic of discussion these days.

Could you or Indian posters confirm that the caste system is still in effect today? If it is then where do the NE muslims fall in such a system?
 
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“How do you guys contribute to the economy besides tea and a few bombs to seek attention?” says an educated, upper middle class boy in a conversation we had about the various states in India. “With a name like ***-am, what do you guys expect?”



Sounds awful familiar with many debaters in this particular in this forum.
 
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“How do you guys contribute to the economy besides tea and a few bombs to seek attention?” says an educated, upper middle class boy in a conversation we had about the various states in India. “With a name like ***-am, what do you guys expect?”



Sounds awful familiar with many debaters in this particular in this forum.

Sounds very similar to Singapore to me. :rolleyes:
 
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Chinese members here- I am really disappointed with you... that bangladeshi guy has been practically begging you for many days now.. he has created 10's of threads asking support of china to break up India & Myanmaar but no support from chinese at all... :devil:

The least you could do is to provide some lip service; like- China will break up India NE & Myanmaar and gift it to Bangladeshi brothers.. or your could say- In case India try to attack Bangladesh then China will unleash megaton nuclear bombs on India... :chilli:

I am sure you have enough generals here to come up with some good plans... you should not give away a bangladeshi slave who has to come to you on his own will... :rofl:
 
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Chinese members here- I am really disappointed with you... that bangladeshi guy has been practically begging you for many days now.. he has created 10's of threads asking support of china to break up India & Myanmaar but no support from chinese at all... :devil:

The least you could do is to provide some lip service; like- China will break up India NE & Myanmaar and gift it to Bangladeshi brothers.. or your could say- In case India try to attack Bangladesh then China will unleash megaton nuclear bombs on India... :chilli:

I am sure you have enough generals here to come up with some good plans... you should not give away a bangladeshi slave who has to come to you on his own will... :rofl:

These people ruin it for other bangladeshis ... fail
 
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Oh yea.. ISI is working over-time to get rid of Baluchistan from Pakistan... :D

hope im not wrong and ISI is working with China for this nobel cause...to get the free land for poor people there.
 
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