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China's dangerous railways: 1,232 people killed in 2014 (down 7.8%)

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This is in response to the seriously wrong thread which claims only 317 deaths in 20 years.
https://defence.pk/threads/comparative-rail-safety.421443/

Straight from Xinhua itself:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/04/c_134209334.htm

"There were fewer accidents and deaths on China's railways in 2014, official statistics showed on Monday, in a boost to industrial expansion both at home and abroad.

Data released by the National Railway Administration (NRA) showed that 1,232 people died in railway accidents in 2014, down 7.8 percent from 2013, according to the Ministry of Transport website.

The NRA attributed the accidents mainly to floods, trespassing on tracks and nonstandard construction work along railway lines.

In 2014, 2.36 billion people traveled by rail, while freight trains transported 3.81 billion tonnes of cargo. Of the 112,000 km of track in operation, over 16,000 km, 14.3 percent, was high speed rail (HSR).

Last year, 8,427 km of new track was added to the network, with 65 percent being HSR. More than 10,000 km of new high-speed track is under construction.

Spending on new trains hit 146 billion yuan (24 billion U.S. dollars) in 2014, up 22.2 percent, while investment in new railroads rose 12.6 percent to 662 billion yuan.

China is increasing its involvement in overseas rail projects and is in discussions with the United States, Russia, India and European countries.

Yu Weiping, vice president of CNR, China's leading railway equipment maker, said last Monday that the company is building an assembly plant near Boston, after it won the bid for 284 metro vehicles worth 567 million U.S. dollars for the city.

China Railway ErYuan Engineering Group, a branch of China Railway Group, was chosen on Thursday as a co-contractor by Russian Railways to build a 770-km high-speed line connecting Moscow with Kazan. The contract is said to be worth 20 billion rubles (over 380 million U.S. dollars).

A Chinese delegation led by an NRA official was also in India on Saturday to assess the feasibility of a high-speed link between Mysuru and Chennai.

One of China South Railway's (CSR) state-of-the-art products, the CRH 380A, went on show at the Milan Expo on Saturday. The CRH (China railway high-speed) train hit a speed of 486.1 km per hour in a test in 2010. The train has run safely for more than 300 million km.

A merger between CSR and CNR has been approved and they will form a new company named CRRC Corporation Ltd. In separate notices filed to the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Wednesday, both companies said their stocks will stop trading on the Shanghai bourse on Thursday, because the board of directors has decided to accelerate the merger.

It aims to build a new transnational and globally significant provider of railway equipment, according to CSR.

Stocks of the CNR and the CSR dipped by 5.96 percent and 5.55 percent on Monday to close at 30.62 yuan and 29.94 yuan respectively."
 
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http://www.todayonline.com/chinaindia/china/railway-deaths-china-shrouded-secrecy

Railway deaths in China shrouded in secrecy


Published: 4:15 AM, January 12, 2016

BEIJING — Disputes between the two agencies running the trains in China over how to classify and publish details on fatal railway incidents have kept reports on some accidents last year from surfacing, say people close to the matter.

Several employees of China Railway Corporation (CRC), which builds the country’s railway networks and manages their commercial operations, said they have received reports about several serious accidents that involved three to 10 deaths last year.


None of the reports have been made public, which would contradict new rules from the National Railway Administration, the agency established in 2013 to handle the non-commercial affairs of the country’s railway network after the Ministry of Railways was dissolved.

The sources Caixin spoke to did not say how many accidents occurred or how many had people died. The railway administration announced rules in May that said all companies in the industry must tell it about accidents that caused three deaths or more. Information, including investigation results and who was punished and how, should be contained in the report and published on the administration’s website within 20 working days after the report is filed, say the rules. As of yesterday, no reports on fatal accidents have appeared on the website.

An official from the Ministry of Transport, which supervises the railway administration, said the CRC opposed the disclosure rules and has argued for a “more cautious” approach to publishing the information.

He said employees of the Ministry and the railway administration found people at the CRC’s 18 regional bureaus were reluctant to cooperate with them on accident probes and on publishing investigation results.

A source close to the Ministry said the administration’s rules were rushed out before all parties concerned agreed on key provisions.

Negotiations on new rules seem to have stalled over sharp divisions regarding how to investigate and classify fatal accidents, and when and how to release information to the public, he said.

Fatality rates in the railway industry have traditionally been among China’s most closely guarded secrets. The State Administration of Work Safety has a database for accidents that includes data on deaths and injuries in almost all major industries and most of the information is published on its website.

However, the railway sector is not included in the database, said a source close to the safety watchdog.
 
This is in response to the seriously wrong thread which claims only 300 deaths in 20 years.
https://defence.pk/threads/comparative-rail-safety.421443/

Straight from Xinhua itself:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-05/04/c_134209334.htm

"There were fewer accidents and deaths on China's railways in 2014, official statistics showed on Monday, in a boost to industrial expansion both at home and abroad.

Data released by the National Railway Administration (NRA) showed that 1,232 people died in railway accidents in 2014, down 7.8 percent from 2013, according to the Ministry of Transport website.

The NRA attributed the accidents mainly to floods, trespassing on tracks and nonstandard construction work along railway lines.

In 2014, 2.36 billion people traveled by rail, while freight trains transported 3.81 billion tonnes of cargo. Of the 112,000 km of track in operation, over 16,000 km, 14.3 percent, was high speed rail (HSR).

Last year, 8,427 km of new track was added to the network, with 65 percent being HSR. More than 10,000 km of new high-speed track is under construction.

Spending on new trains hit 146 billion yuan (24 billion U.S. dollars) in 2014, up 22.2 percent, while investment in new railroads rose 12.6 percent to 662 billion yuan.

China is increasing its involvement in overseas rail projects and is in discussions with the United States, Russia, India and European countries.

Yu Weiping, vice president of CNR, China's leading railway equipment maker, said last Monday that the company is building an assembly plant near Boston, after it won the bid for 284 metro vehicles worth 567 million U.S. dollars for the city.

China Railway ErYuan Engineering Group, a branch of China Railway Group, was chosen on Thursday as a co-contractor by Russian Railways to build a 770-km high-speed line connecting Moscow with Kazan. The contract is said to be worth 20 billion rubles (over 380 million U.S. dollars).

A Chinese delegation led by an NRA official was also in India on Saturday to assess the feasibility of a high-speed link between Mysuru and Chennai.

One of China South Railway's (CSR) state-of-the-art products, the CRH 380A, went on show at the Milan Expo on Saturday. The CRH (China railway high-speed) train hit a speed of 486.1 km per hour in a test in 2010. The train has run safely for more than 300 million km.

A merger between CSR and CNR has been approved and they will form a new company named CRRC Corporation Ltd. In separate notices filed to the Shanghai Stock Exchange on Wednesday, both companies said their stocks will stop trading on the Shanghai bourse on Thursday, because the board of directors has decided to accelerate the merger.

It aims to build a new transnational and globally significant provider of railway equipment, according to CSR.

Stocks of the CNR and the CSR dipped by 5.96 percent and 5.55 percent on Monday to close at 30.62 yuan and 29.94 yuan respectively."
This is a good news, death rate is down and none of the death is on train passenger like derail or train crash. China train is safe and meeting world standard.

You surely do not understand the difference between railway related death and passenger death by train.
Monkey's wisdom, lol
American as usual. They will not report news like Obama support blood thirsty monarch like Saudi that chopped off people head on street or support spreading of terrorism in US by the same regime. :D
 
You surely do not understand the difference between railway related death and passenger death by train.
Monkey's wisdom, lol

Dude you had 40 people killed in just one train accident a few years ago. I bet the total killed ON US passenger trains in the last 10 years does not exceed 50 people. .


Build me a list. You aren't going to hit 50.

Just two crashes in China with 112 deaths in the last 8 years:
2008 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zibo_train_collision 72 killed
2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenzhou_train_collision 40 killed

There is simply NO WAY more US passengers are killed in trains than in China.
 
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Dude you had 40 people killed in just one train accident a few years ago. I bet the total killed ON US passenger trains in the last 10 years does not exceed 50 people. 99% of people killed by trains in the US are not on the train. They are in a car hit by a train or walking on the tracks.


Build me a list. You aren't going to hit 50.
You talk about 2014 and then suddenly you want to bring in few years ago? You must be badly hurt when we dig out news of incompetent US rail that killed more passenger than China? :lol:

Let me ask you, how many passenger killed in China train in 2014? None. :D

While US lousy crap rail killed many many.
 
Dude you had 40 people killed in just one train accident a few years ago. I bet the total killed ON US passenger trains in the last 10 years does not exceed 50 people. 99% of people killed by trains in the US are not on the train. They are in a car hit by a train or walking on the tracks.


Build me a list. You aren't going to hit 50.
Do I have the duty to teach you like your Papa? Can't you learn to use Google by yourself? A simple search show that the accident happened cause 25 deaths in 2008, Sept in LA
 
Do I have the duty to teach you like your Papa? Can't you learn to use Google by yourself? A simple search show that the accident happened in 2008, Sept in LA cause 25 deaths

yes, and that is not 50. You need 25 more. Keep googling.
 
I‘m not your Papa. You can call me it at your wish

Hey if there were tons of deaths on US trains it should take you 30 seconds to build that list.
But there isn't...and it will take you a LONG time to track down every little incident until you cross 50.

That is all the proof I need.
 

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