China's Century? Not if We Don't Give It Away

[vietnamese_sausage]

You know, I posted a logical reply, but I decided to delete it.

Prejudice cannot be overcome by reason because it is not based on logic.

We Vietnamese men are not all women beater that is common stereotype in united states

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

We Vietnamese men are not all women beater that is common stereotype in united states

See I don't even know how that stereotype came about (actually I do, but I won't offend any people here - hint, its not real). The Chinese and Vietnamese guys I know are very respectful towards women and don't have a chip on their shoulder to have to prove their masculinity.

Its kinda funny how they talk about how China has angry young men that can't get girls, when they themselves have Elliot Rodgers.

I don't know about Vietnamese TV, but at least on Chinese TV, showing both men and women in strong leadership roles is common and not even worthy of mention. Its not like on US TV where having a woman as the lead is "feminist" and "groundbreaking".

 

[Aepsilons]

I was raised a liberal but I've learned to recognize that there can be differences in habits and thinking between different nationalities; it's ignorant or deceitful - even intolerant - to hold that everyone thinks the same or must think the same.

Good to know that you've turned away from the dark side of the force...lol

See I don't even know how that stereotype came about (actually I do, but I won't offend any people here - hint, its not real). The Chinese and Vietnamese guys I know are very respectful towards women and don't have a chip on their shoulder to have to prove their masculinity.

Its kinda funny how they talk about how China has angry young men that can't get girls, when they themselves have Elliot Rodgers.

I don't know about Vietnamese TV, but at least on Chinese TV, showing both men and women in strong leadership roles is common and not even worthy of mention. Its not like on US TV where having a woman as the lead is "feminist" and "groundbreaking".

Correct me i'm wrong, but is not Chinese society a patrilineal society ? Is not there a cultural phenomena wherein there is greater emphasis and importance imparted onto the male offspring?

 

[Genesis]

Correct me i'm wrong, but is not Chinese society a patrilineal society ? Is not there a cultural phenomena wherein there is greater emphasis and importance imparted onto the male offspring?

sure, but no more important than Japan, or any of the European or American countries. Read gone with the Wind, yea, I know, I was forced to, but it's a good book, lol.

Except you guys were developed far sooner than we did.

Right now people want girls, I mean they won't abort a male child, but female babies are better. There's tons of advantages, and people are starting to see it.

Not to mention we are more and more developed, that doesn't hurt.

 

[Aepsilons]

sure, but no more important than Japan, or any of the European or American countries. Read gone with the Wind, yea, I know, I was forced to, but it's a good book, lol.

Gone with the Wind? Oh Stacy! lol. OT: Seriously? and did you watch the movie too?

Except you guys were developed far sooner than we did.

Meh. It was more like we were FORCED to. It's not like we wanted to industrialize, we were isolated for 200 some years before Commodore Perry came along.

Right now people want girls, I mean they won't abort a male child, but female babies are better. There's tons of advantages, and people are starting to see it.

I think Japan and China are similar in that we have very strongly patrilineal societies. Emphasis is on the boy, still. Our ability to forward the family name and all you know. With the girl, family name is lost when she marries. I'm sure that there are more Chinese families that are favoring girls, but you cannot deny that Chinese parents would prefer if they had at least one boy in a brood of children. That boy will continue the family name...

Not to mention we are more and more developed, that doesn't hurt.

Japan is ultra-developed. Yet we still have a strongly patrilineal culture. Even to this day.

 

[dlclong]

How could,
Do not forget that China is a dictatorship country.
Chinese people do not have human rights.
Do not believe the false propaganda of the Communist Party.


21st century belongs to India, modi said in the US

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Good to know that you've turned away from the dark side of the force...lol

Correct me i'm wrong, but is not Chinese society a patrilineal society ? Is not there a cultural phenomena wherein there is greater emphasis and importance imparted onto the male offspring?

Patrilineal - yes. Greater importance on male offspring - no. Since you study psychology, do you remember the whole controversy about Barbie saying "math is hard"? That is actually a valid controversy: it teaches girls that math, a subject that should have no gender, is actually gendered: male. No analog of that for Chinese - plenty of women in science and engineering.

There's no stigma against female leadership in China because Chinese males are secure in their masculinity and don't have a chip on their shoulder. 38% of senior management positions in China are held by females; only 22% in the US are held by females, and 9% in Japan.

When It Comes To Women In Management, The U.S. Ranks 37th Of 45 Countries

Chinese women hold more leadership positions in government as well: Women in Parliaments: World Classification

Chinese women don't change their name after marriage, so there's no double-loss of the family name. Also, right now couples with multiple children are starting to have children with the last names of both the husband and the wife.

 

[dlclong]

Urge the United States, Japan, India, and other countries, including Vietnam（Although himself is a communist country）, the Philippines,
save the Chinese people living in hell.

Once people get Chinese democracy, never has the dispute with you.
Believe me, please

HELP！！！

 

[Aepsilons]

Chinese women don't change their name after marriage.

Of course, but the identity of the children passes on to the father.

There's no stigma against female leadership in China because Chinese males are secure in their masculinity and don't have a chip on their shoulder. 38% of senior management positions in China are held by females; only 22% in the US are held by females, and 9% in Japan.

Japan has a definite unique social construct in which males are leaders, and as much as developed Japan is, there is still this social thinking that the woman is to be submissive to the man. It reflects Japan's inherent conservative social construct. Tho I do hope that there will be a legislative push to encourage greater opportunities for women to climb up, one has to recognize this reality.

Patrilineal - yes. Greater importance on male offspring - no. Since you study psychology, do you remember the whole controversy about Barbie saying "math is hard"? That is actually a valid controversy: it teaches girls that math, a subject that should have no gender, is actually gendered: male. No analog of that for Chinese - plenty of women in science and engineering.

A lot of professions, unfortunately are gendered. One for example is Nursing and Medicine. In Japan, majority of nursing students and professional nurses are still female, tho there are a growing number of males taking this professional career path. Medicine, on the other hand is masculine, as majority of Japanese who study medicine are men. Some fields that are still gendered include: Engineering, Military.

 

[dlclong]

LOL，，，，Dreaming! ! ! !
Come on, continue! ↖ (^ ω ^) ↗

 

[Aepsilons]

Urge the United States, Japan, India, and other countries, including Vietnam（Although himself is a communist country）, the Philippines,
save the Chinese people living in hell.

Once people get Chinese democracy, never has the dispute with you.
Believe me, please

HELP！！！

China requires a Singapore-styled Democracy.

LOL，，，，Dreaming! ! ! !
Come on, continue! ↖ (^ ω ^) ↗

¬_¬

 

[vietnamese_sausage]

See I don't even know how that stereotype came about (actually I do, but I won't offend any people here - hint, its not real). The Chinese and Vietnamese guys I know are very respectful towards women and don't have a chip on their shoulder to have to prove their masculinity.

Its kinda funny how they talk about how China has angry young men that can't get girls, when they themselves have Elliot Rodgers.

I don't know about Vietnamese TV, but at least on Chinese TV, showing both men and women in strong leadership roles is common and not even worthy of mention. Its not like on US TV where having a woman as the lead is "feminist" and "groundbreaking".

The stupid Vietnamese gangs give good Vietnamese a bad reputation. i hope the police or black gangs kill them all.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Of course, but the identity of the children passes on to the father.




Japan has a definite unique social construct in which males are leaders, and as much as developed Japan is, there is still this social thinking that the woman is to be submissive to the man. It reflects Japan's inherent conservative social construct. Tho I do hope that there will be a legislative push to encourage greater opportunities for women to climb up, one has to recognize this reality.



A lot of professions, unfortunately are gendered. One for example is Nursing and Medicine. In Japan, majority of nursing students and professional nurses are still female, tho there are a growing number of males taking this professional career path. Medicine, on the other hand is masculine, as majority of Japanese who study medicine are men. Some fields that are still gendered include: Engineering, Military.

You can explain Japan's 9% rate as cultural conservatism, but what about the US's 22% rate and the 21% OECD average?

Certain vocational degrees such as nursing and military are special because they reflect natural physiological differences between men and women. They are mostly work done by following a manual and set procedures. Due to physiological differences, men and women are better at following certain types of procedures.

However, things that are purely mental - science, engineering, medicine, law, business, literature - should not be gendered. Although there is a subject oriented gender bias in China, it is much less than what I've seen elsewhere. Look at any random website of a physical science or engineering research group in a Chinese university - at least 1/3 of the students are female. There are rarely all-male groups like I have seen in the elsewhere.

 

[dlclong]

I'm back!

Who says I'm finished? ?

Just more than one leg. .

 

[Genesis]

Gone with the Wind? Oh Stacy! lol. OT: Seriously? and did you watch the movie too?

Scarlett, come on, dude, and a little bit.Not all of it.

Meh. It was more like we were FORCED to. It's not like we wanted to industrialize, we were isolated for 200 some years before Commodore Perry came along.

I was referring to actual development, you know the 80s. Though also because of the Americans.

I think Japan and China are similar in that we have very strongly patrilineal societies. Emphasis is on the boy, still. Our ability to forward the family name and all you know. With the girl, family name is lost when she marries. I'm sure that there are more Chinese families that are favoring girls, but you cannot deny that Chinese parents would prefer if they had at least one boy in a brood of children. That boy will continue the family name...

Yes, but in many ways we are better in this particular field, due to our communist past, present and future. For example, women in China is better, as is Vietnam, why? Communism. We literally wiped the old society off the face of the earth.

And I will deny it, especially with the urban youth, which numbers in the hundreds of millions, that are the majority of the young people in China.So at this point the gender balance could very well be balanced, though not without a lot of help from our less fortunate South East Asia buddies down under.

Japan is ultra-developed. Yet we still have a strongly patrilineal culture. Even to this day.

But Japan can be considered traditional, for all our talk of history we are not traditional, most like because the traditional people are dead or in Taiwan.