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The DiploMad 2.0

Sunday, October 5, 2014
I wrote the following piece over two years ago. Given what we now see happening in Hong Kong, I think it remains a valid assessment of China's "century."

April 2, 2012

China's Century? Not if We Don't Give It Away

Years ago in Jakarta, I occasionally would meet, lunch, or dine with a husband-wife team of correspondents for two prominent American newspapers. They were very pleasant, had a sense of humor, and a great deal of experience overseas, mostly in Asia. They were well-educated, wrote well, and had the standard liberal biases of their class--e.g., they hated President Bush, hoped John Kerry would win the 2004 election, and viewed the United States as a seriously flawed country on the way to the dust-bin of history. They saw the 21st century "belonging" to China in the same way that the 20th "belonged" to us. They made the usual arguments about China's manufacturing prowess, well-coordinated and determined political class, social discipline, and education--which is the real kind, not the "women's studies" kind. Their writing reflected these views. This narrative continues today from other purveyors of conventional faux wisdom such as the annoying and boring Thomas Friedman, and the condescending and insufferable Fareed Zakaria.

Don't buy it. The 21st will prove "China's century" only if we destroy ourselves; but, if we do, odds are we're taking China with us--and the Chinese rulers know it (more to follow).

I love Chinese history; been to China several times; and like and respect the Chinese people--they work hard, they like Americans, and want to study and live in America. I have dealt with China's very slick, tough, and well-trained diplomats. That said, I have found it impressive over the years to see how China has transformed itself from a poor, brutal authoritarian police state into a poor, brutal, authoritarian police state with large foreign currency reserves. Sorry, but shoddily-built skyscrapers, and streets clogged with Fords, BMWs, Lexus, and Buicks, and lined with luxury stores and restaurants cannot hide the hard facts.

Confucius's 2500-year old Analects still provides an accurate account of China's philosophy of governance in which every person has an assigned role; failure to keep to it has dire consequences. I saw the repression at work in a visit to Tibet which escaped the control of our handlers. Even outside Tibet the legal system, to put it mildly, remains opaque, capricious, subject to political manipulation, and harsh. Avoid Chinese cops--who seem to be everywhere--and courts. For all the vaunted economic progress, control of the legal-political system remains with an unelected and corrupt Communist Party cadre. These rulers have agreed among themselves that not one will have the total power once wielded so disastrously by Mao. The top jobs rotate; major decisions are not made solo. Progress? I don't know. We saw a similar development in the USSR after Stalin: how is the USSR doing these days? The people remain cut out. The elite decide what's best, the people must comply--see Confucius. This secretive, stale, corrupt, aloof, and repressive system remains a major hindrance for China's development as a true power. Despite ham-handed attempts to block outside influence, word spreads of ways to live which do not involve fear and blind loyalty. We probably will not see a Chinese 21st century, but we will see a "Chinese Spring," and it could get nasty.

We hear a lot of heated nonsense about a GOP "war on women." To see a real war on women, go to China. Thanks to Chinese preference for sons, the one-child dictate means females in China are disappearing: they are being aborted, killed, and given for adoption overseas. This is gendercide, a human rights disaster of major proportions and one almost ignored. Moral issues aside, China is heading for demographic disaster. Marrying age men vastly outnumber women. Among those who can afford it, there is a hunt on for foreign brides. Large groups of young Chinese men charter planes to Indonesia, Malaysia, and elsewhere, and hold "speed dating" sessions at local hotels in the hunt for brides, stoking the anti-Chinese hatred which lies just beneath the surface of many Asian societies.

In East Asia, China is deeply feared and resented. East Asian leaders would much rather deal with the United States, and are big proponents of an active US military and economic presence in the area. They do not want China (and previously Japan) as the undisputed big gorilla in the region. As a senior Vietnamese diplomat once told me, "Everybody wants to be American. Nobody wants to be Chinese. Even the Chinese want to be American." This from a man whose father, he said, died fighting the US Marines in Hue, and whose own son was studying in California. Unless you're wealthy and can isolate yourself from Chinese reality, China is an unpleasant place to live for a foreigner, especially one from another Asian country. It has little in the way of "soft power" or uplifting universal values; it does not welcome immigrants, and views foreigners with the same sort of suspicion and disdain that Chinese citizens themselves find in much of East Asia.

Even in the economic sphere there is less than meets the eye. Most Chinese, the overwhelming number of them, live in crushing rural and urban poverty, work under appalling conditions, and suffer levels of environmental pollution and food contamination that no Western society would tolerate. The mass education system is a disaster. Increasingly foreign firms, which, after all, have fueled China's economic growth, are encountering shortages of skilled and semi-skilled workers, and are no longer quite so eager to set up shop in China.

China's banks are a mystery. They are secretive, corrupt, and work closely with the Party and the government. China pursues a policy which will be coming to the end of its rope soon, that of keeping its currency artificially low to keep exports cheap, and try to keep the job creation machine churning. The central bank, which holds the largest foreign currency reserves in the world, must come up with ways ("sterilization") to sop up the currency generated in China by the influx of foreign currency to prevent inflation and prevent the Chinese currency from appreciating against other major currencies. This involves forcing the banks to keep an ever increasing reserve, and forcing them to buy low or no yield government bonds. I am no expert, but the ones whom I know wonder how long that can continue. The experts ignore another aspect to this: the overseas political side of it. China's trading partners, the US and Europe most notably, are reaching the end of their patience with China's currency manipulations. A trade war is not inconceivable; China would have the most to lose.

One of the greatest threats to China's future is President Obama. His administration's reckless spending and conjuring of dollars out of thin air, is ruining us and stretching the Chinese ability to "sterilize" the effects of all these cheap dollars pouring in. It is no wonder that Chinese authorities have been lecturing Obama on the need for fiscal restraint and budgetary responsibility. China is tied to our mast. If we sink, they go with us--their billions and billions of dollars in US bonds, worthless. Let's view it as a backhanded compliment to our silly President.

As stated at the outset, China will have as much power and influence as we let them have. China's future as a superpower will be decided in Washington, not in Beijing. Under the Communists, China has not proven an inventive or innovative society; their technological progress is bought, borrowed, copied, or stolen. The USSR tried that, too. They offer no compelling alternative vision to the West's prosperity and freedom. They can try to become a military bully, but that will go only so far in their very complicated neighborhood and with the serious structural and resource weaknesses they suffer.

China should copy and try one thing from the West it has not so far: it works in Japan, in the Republic of Korea, and, ironically, in the "breakaway" Chinese province of Taiwan. I am talking about freedom, the real kind, not the Communist Party kind.
 
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As if United States/Britain/Germany/Russia didn't have internal problems during their rise...?

Let's not blow HongKong out of proportion.
 
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I highly doubt the author of the article has any sort of actual understanding of China. The stuff is frankly like a US high school student's essay put together with bits and pieces found on the internet. Basically, it starts off with a bunch of random name and appeal to authority. Stick in words American audience will eat up like freedom and corruption. Stroke the epeen a little bit like "they have it because we let them have it" or "they have good stuff but it doesn't matter" and finally come up with a conclusion that leaves you scratching your head on how did that logic even work. Bonus if you can mix in your personal political agenda in there.
 
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I highly doubt the author of the article has any sort of actual understanding of China. The stuff is frankly like a US high school student's essay -
The author, W. Lewis Amselem, was one of America's finest diplomats so you don't have to worry that he might be ignorant in this matter - at the very least he's better informed and experienced than many an American high school student!
 
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Joke is US government couldn't force China sanction Russia how can US has the power to direct China foreign policy?
 
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The author, W. Lewis Amselem, was one of America's finest diplomats so you don't have to worry that he might be ignorant in this matter - at the very least he's better informed and experienced than many an American high school student!

Yeah, a diplomat, more specifically, deputy chief of mission at US embassy to Indonesia. (And a number of South/Southeast Asian countries, but never East Asia, let alone China) Hence, the part about him having no idea about China. Considering the stark differences between culture, custom, politics and economic development between China and these countries, it make me wonder if Mr. Amselem is actually talking about China.

There is also the fact that said article is hardly written in an official capacity, nor it is intended to be used for professional purpose of determining US policy. Let's be frank, when the site started off with "Wracked with angst over the fate of our beloved and horribly misgoverned Republic, the DiploMad returns to do battle on the world wide web, swearing death to political correctness, and pulling no punches", it is pretty hard to take it as academic analysis of Chinese internal politic, let alone use it to determine what US should be for the next century.

BTW, considering the recent news for the Ferguson incident, I would like to share an interesting bit of culture shock coming from China to US. One of the most stressed lessons for Chinese immigrants and visitors to US is "do not treat US police the same way as Chinese ones". In Chinese, you can pretty much take any problem you have to the police, ranging from actual cases to small things like lost pet and getting lost in the neighborhood. Basically, on their worst day they are way more friendly than US police on a good day. The reason for this is simple. China is a much more stable society with significantly less amount of violence, especially gun related ones. This means the police work is a lot less dangerous than their US or ASEAN country part. As a result, they can afford to be friendly and approachable. I don't blame Mr. Amselem to make the mistake on the issue. Considering he has only been to countries like US, Indonesia, Sri Lanka and Panama where the police work is a lot more dangerous and the officers themselves are much more cautious.
 
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The DiploMad 2.0

Sunday, October 5, 2014
I wrote the following piece over two years ago. Given what we now see happening in Hong Kong, I think it remains a valid assessment of China's "century."

April 2, 2012

China's Century? Not if We Don't Give It Away

Years ago in Jakarta, I occasionally would meet, lunch, or dine with a husband-wife team of correspondents for two prominent American newspapers. They were very pleasant, had a sense of humor, and a great deal of experience overseas, mostly in Asia. They were well-educated, wrote well, and had the standard liberal biases of their class--e.g., they hated President Bush, hoped John Kerry would win the 2004 election, and viewed the United States as a seriously flawed country on the way to the dust-bin of history. They saw the 21st century "belonging" to China in the same way that the 20th "belonged" to us. They made the usual arguments about China's manufacturing prowess, well-coordinated and determined political class, social discipline, and education--which is the real kind, not the "women's studies" kind. Their writing reflected these views. This narrative continues today from other purveyors of conventional faux wisdom such as the annoying and boring Thomas Friedman, and the condescending and insufferable Fareed Zakaria.

Don't buy it. The 21st will prove "China's century" only if we destroy ourselves; but, if we do, odds are we're taking China with us--and the Chinese rulers know it (more to follow).

I love Chinese history; been to China several times; and like and respect the Chinese people--they work hard, they like Americans, and want to study and live in America. I have dealt with China's very slick, tough, and well-trained diplomats. That said, I have found it impressive over the years to see how China has transformed itself from a poor, brutal authoritarian police state into a poor, brutal, authoritarian police state with large foreign currency reserves. Sorry, but shoddily-built skyscrapers, and streets clogged with Fords, BMWs, Lexus, and Buicks, and lined with luxury stores and restaurants cannot hide the hard facts.


China went from very poor to poor. He was in South East asia, he should know what the same old same old is. lol, if anyone is an expert on that it's him.

Brutal? In what way? Perhaps the one child policy, but that has just as many supporters both inside and outside of China compared to detractors. India is even thinking of it, sort of, at least quite a few support it inside India.

Political dissent? This guy is a moron then, Falungong is pretty open today in China, I mean the pamphlets are everywhere, and guys are recruiting and stuff everywhere. Nobody cares. People criticize China a lot, on Weibou, in real life, at least 10 protests every day, legal or not, and a lot of other crap.

Just because the official line and the old bias say it isn't doesn't mean it isn't. These things are very easy to verify. Go to a building see the pamphlets, get some Chinese friends and hear the complains, walk down a street and see the protests. Go on Weibou and have your brain fried.


Confucius's 2500-year old Analects still provides an accurate account of China's philosophy of governance in which every person has an assigned role; failure to keep to it has dire consequences. I saw the repression at work in a visit to Tibet which escaped the control of our handlers. Even outside Tibet the legal system, to put it mildly, remains opaque, capricious, subject to political manipulation, and harsh. Avoid Chinese cops--who seem to be everywhere--and courts. For all the vaunted economic progress, control of the legal-political system remains with an unelected and corrupt Communist Party cadre. These rulers have agreed among themselves that not one will have the total power once wielded so disastrously by Mao. The top jobs rotate; major decisions are not made solo. Progress? I don't know. We saw a similar development in the USSR after Stalin: how is the USSR doing these days? The people remain cut out. The elite decide what's best, the people must comply--see Confucius. This secretive, stale, corrupt, aloof, and repressive system remains a major hindrance for China's development as a true power. Despite ham-handed attempts to block outside influence, word spreads of ways to live which do not involve fear and blind loyalty. We probably will not see a Chinese 21st century, but we will see a "Chinese Spring," and it could get nasty.

Dude has no idea who Confucius is or why he was made the model for China, especially, he doesn't know jack crap about Chinese culture, this is like me saying well now America follows Aristotle or something like that. He's attributing many to one.

Tibet has problems, but funny he didn't mention the medical service we must provide, the no interest loans for students, the land, the benefits of being a minority and all that.

Run away from Chinese cops? He means run away from american cops. I see American and Canadian cops literally everywhere, sometimes 4 police cars in one drive, I see Chinese cops almost never, unless you count traffic cops, which dont' carry a gun.

I seen guys eating at McDonalds with a gun, while our guys don't have a gun even on a hunt.

Same as after Stalin? This really proves it, if he thinks this is the same as after Stalin times, then he needs to go back into the pensieve and compare the mood.

There's no Chinese walking down the street and thinking, am I going to get my *** kicked? But the same can't be true about America. While I understand the fear he talks about, but it's not an accurate sum up of it. He makes it look like everyone has no choice and is fearful, while if that were true, we be North Korea, and even NK isn't the same as people say, I'm not saying it's good, but it's very generalized, though if it weren't we need books to document what NK is really like.

Every country's elite decide, Obamacare, stiumlius, more taxes, less taxes, and everything else in between, you are saying >50% believe in any one of those?

Difference is America elects them, China choose them base on resume, you will never see someone with Obama's resume be anywhere near the center of power.

We are fine as a developing power, there's this thing called the China system now, people usually don't follow something that doesn't work, but then again, our good friend Solomon follows you, so I don't know.

We hear a lot of heated nonsense about a GOP "war on women." To see a real war on women, go to China. Thanks to Chinese preference for sons, the one-child dictate means females in China are disappearing: they are being aborted, killed, and given for adoption overseas. This is gendercide, a human rights disaster of major proportions and one almost ignored. Moral issues aside, China is heading for demographic disaster. Marrying age men vastly outnumber women. Among those who can afford it, there is a hunt on for foreign brides. Large groups of young Chinese men charter planes to Indonesia, Malaysia, and elsewhere, and hold "speed dating" sessions at local hotels in the hunt for brides, stoking the anti-Chinese hatred which lies just beneath the surface of many Asian societies.

One child prolicy has problems, name me an American policy that doesn't. China ranks better on women's roles than even Japan and Korea. So what's Korea doing? Boiling women for food?

Could we improve? Of course.

Regarding this issue, he could have talked about any number of issues still exist, yet he chose the easy one and coincidentally, the one that's not true and certainly proved his credentials. He could talk about Women's role in society in Rural areas, Women's access to social services and education due to being a unregistered first child, domestic violence, media perception and much more. Yet here he is.


In East Asia, China is deeply feared and resented. East Asian leaders would much rather deal with the United States, and are big proponents of an active US military and economic presence in the area. They do not want China (and previously Japan) as the undisputed big gorilla in the region. As a senior Vietnamese diplomat once told me, "Everybody wants to be American. Nobody wants to be Chinese. Even the Chinese want to be American." This from a man whose father, he said, died fighting the US Marines in Hue, and whose own son was studying in California. Unless you're wealthy and can isolate yourself from Chinese reality, China is an unpleasant place to live for a foreigner, especially one from another Asian country. It has little in the way of "soft power" or uplifting universal values; it does not welcome immigrants, and views foreigners with the same sort of suspicion and disdain that Chinese citizens themselves find in much of East Asia.

A diplomat really? South Asia likes China better than India why? Cause we are not in South Asia, and our influence there however big will always be smaller than an Indian one.

People want to be American due to the prestige, look at china 30 years ago, look at America 30 years ago, back then anyone given the chance would run to America, but now, a lot are returning, can you see 30 years later from now?

As to racism, that's a problem everyone faces, now obviously China is a developing nation with not as much exposure to immigrants but if you are going to go that route, look at the camps in Europe and the way Japanese treat people, do I even need to say what America is suppose to do to those that seeks a better life in the name of human rights.

Now, I'm not saying we are better than America or close, but looking at our development levels, I say at this point of development, we are far more accepting than Americans were, for one thing we don't have a black only toilet.

Even in the economic sphere there is less than meets the eye. Most Chinese, the overwhelming number of them, live in crushing rural and urban poverty, work under appalling conditions, and suffer levels of environmental pollution and food contamination that no Western society would tolerate. The mass education system is a disaster. Increasingly foreign firms, which, after all, have fueled China's economic growth, are encountering shortages of skilled and semi-skilled workers, and are no longer quite so eager to set up shop in China.
Most Walmart employees can't live without food stamps, factories use South Americans as "slave labor," there was an ad that says Americans are better because you work more.

China isn't better, but we all got problems, for China's development level that's the price. Though India or Africa doesn't have this problem, cause they dont' got jobs, not as many as we do anyways.

The education system has it's benefits and downsides, like any system, no one is perfect, but for China right now, it's to preach the importance of it, and to built up that first and second batch of experienced employees so they can pass on their experience and knowledge to new people and let the cycle start.

Shortage of skilled labors? They are short on labors, yes, chinese are much more advanced today and they don't want to nor need to be anyone's lab dog anymore. More and more are looking to a service job rather than in the manufacturing.

By every indication that's a positive sign, but like all the other points, here it is.


China's banks are a mystery. They are secretive, corrupt, and work closely with the Party and the government. China pursues a policy which will be coming to the end of its rope soon, that of keeping its currency artificially low to keep exports cheap, and try to keep the job creation machine churning. The central bank, which holds the largest foreign currency reserves in the world, must come up with ways ("sterilization") to sop up the currency generated in China by the influx of foreign currency to prevent inflation and prevent the Chinese currency from appreciating against other major currencies. This involves forcing the banks to keep an ever increasing reserve, and forcing them to buy low or no yield government bonds. I am no expert, but the ones whom I know wonder how long that can continue. The experts ignore another aspect to this: the overseas political side of it. China's trading partners, the US and Europe most notably, are reaching the end of their patience with China's currency manipulations. A trade war is not inconceivable; China would have the most to lose.

when is this soon? At least the Chang man had the courage to set a date, but like the God pushers before him, he was wrong and will continue to be so. Shock I even saw a positive article from him about China the other day.

US and EU will have patients, that or we can all go down, seeing as Obama and Cameron are not children that like to see the world burn for spite, Mr. whatever your name is, you are very much in the minority here, unless you go to pre school, or high school, then you be in the majority.


One of the greatest threats to China's future is President Obama. His administration's reckless spending and conjuring of dollars out of thin air, is ruining us and stretching the Chinese ability to "sterilize" the effects of all these cheap dollars pouring in. It is no wonder that Chinese authorities have been lecturing Obama on the need for fiscal restraint and budgetary responsibility. China is tied to our mast. If we sink, they go with us--their billions and billions of dollars in US bonds, worthless. Let's view it as a backhanded compliment to our silly President.

Whether Obama is competent or not, he didn't start the policy and he can't be the one to end it. China won't sink with you, though we will be affected, probably badly, so will the rest of the world, and the one that has the best tools to climb up, is the nation with a hand in the poor and rich cookie jar, able to produce at relatively low cost, while able to design like the developed nations.


As stated at the outset, China will have as much power and influence as we let them have. China's future as a superpower will be decided in Washington, not in Beijing. Under the Communists, China has not proven an inventive or innovative society; their technological progress is bought, borrowed, copied, or stolen. The USSR tried that, too. They offer no compelling alternative vision to the West's prosperity and freedom. They can try to become a military bully, but that will go only so far in their very complicated neighborhood and with the serious structural and resource weaknesses they suffer.

China should copy and try one thing from the West it has not so far: it works in Japan, in the Republic of Korea, and, ironically, in the "breakaway" Chinese province of Taiwan. I am talking about freedom, the real kind, not the Communist Party kind.

Really? In DC? Maybe DC can also tell me what to get my GF, though she doesn't like DC shoes, cause it's kinda lame. Inventive? Innovation? You mean Japan? Oh wait, Japan and Korea proved with time and investment they will come, and Nazi Germany and Stalin USSr were the beacon of innovation, just because you lead now, don't forget what happened just a few decades ago.

The USSR by size is not bigger than US and to be fair also not as involved in the world economic game. Today you are talkingto the number one trading nation, and the number one biggest nation. We have more friends than the two and a half "frienames" here, and we are the most important partner for Africa, and many other nations around the world.

One tax and high standards on coal and Australia is talking like we ruined Christmas. Though we kinda did, but we are just copying the Grinch, I mean that's all we are good for no?

As to freedom? Define it, I seen so many Western people come to China only then to completely change their view on China.
 
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The DiploMad 2.0

Sunday, October 5, 2014
I wrote the following piece over two years ago. Given what we now see happening in Hong Kong, I think it remains a valid assessment of China's "century."

April 2, 2012

China's Century? Not if We Don't Give It Away

Years ago in Jakarta, I occasionally would meet, lunch, or dine with a husband-wife team of correspondents for two prominent American newspapers. They were very pleasant, had a sense of humor, and a great deal of experience overseas, mostly in Asia. They were well-educated, wrote well, and had the standard liberal biases of their class--e.g., they hated President Bush, hoped John Kerry would win the 2004 election, and viewed the United States as a seriously flawed country on the way to the dust-bin of history. They saw the 21st century "belonging" to China in the same way that the 20th "belonged" to us. They made the usual arguments about China's manufacturing prowess, well-coordinated and determined political class, social discipline, and education--which is the real kind, not the "women's studies" kind. Their writing reflected these views. This narrative continues today from other purveyors of conventional faux wisdom such as the annoying and boring Thomas Friedman, and the condescending and insufferable Fareed Zakaria.

Don't buy it. The 21st will prove "China's century" only if we destroy ourselves; but, if we do, odds are we're taking China with us--and the Chinese rulers know it (more to follow).

I love Chinese history; been to China several times; and like and respect the Chinese people--they work hard, they like Americans, and want to study and live in America. I have dealt with China's very slick, tough, and well-trained diplomats. That said, I have found it impressive over the years to see how China has transformed itself from a poor, brutal authoritarian police state into a poor, brutal, authoritarian police state with large foreign currency reserves. Sorry, but shoddily-built skyscrapers, and streets clogged with Fords, BMWs, Lexus, and Buicks, and lined with luxury stores and restaurants cannot hide the hard facts.

Confucius's 2500-year old Analects still provides an accurate account of China's philosophy of governance in which every person has an assigned role; failure to keep to it has dire consequences. I saw the repression at work in a visit to Tibet which escaped the control of our handlers. Even outside Tibet the legal system, to put it mildly, remains opaque, capricious, subject to political manipulation, and harsh. Avoid Chinese cops--who seem to be everywhere--and courts. For all the vaunted economic progress, control of the legal-political system remains with an unelected and corrupt Communist Party cadre. These rulers have agreed among themselves that not one will have the total power once wielded so disastrously by Mao. The top jobs rotate; major decisions are not made solo. Progress? I don't know. We saw a similar development in the USSR after Stalin: how is the USSR doing these days? The people remain cut out. The elite decide what's best, the people must comply--see Confucius. This secretive, stale, corrupt, aloof, and repressive system remains a major hindrance for China's development as a true power. Despite ham-handed attempts to block outside influence, word spreads of ways to live which do not involve fear and blind loyalty. We probably will not see a Chinese 21st century, but we will see a "Chinese Spring," and it could get nasty.

We hear a lot of heated nonsense about a GOP "war on women." To see a real war on women, go to China. Thanks to Chinese preference for sons, the one-child dictate means females in China are disappearing: they are being aborted, killed, and given for adoption overseas. This is gendercide, a human rights disaster of major proportions and one almost ignored. Moral issues aside, China is heading for demographic disaster. Marrying age men vastly outnumber women. Among those who can afford it, there is a hunt on for foreign brides. Large groups of young Chinese men charter planes to Indonesia, Malaysia, and elsewhere, and hold "speed dating" sessions at local hotels in the hunt for brides, stoking the anti-Chinese hatred which lies just beneath the surface of many Asian societies.

In East Asia, China is deeply feared and resented. East Asian leaders would much rather deal with the United States, and are big proponents of an active US military and economic presence in the area. They do not want China (and previously Japan) as the undisputed big gorilla in the region. As a senior Vietnamese diplomat once told me, "Everybody wants to be American. Nobody wants to be Chinese. Even the Chinese want to be American." This from a man whose father, he said, died fighting the US Marines in Hue, and whose own son was studying in California. Unless you're wealthy and can isolate yourself from Chinese reality, China is an unpleasant place to live for a foreigner, especially one from another Asian country. It has little in the way of "soft power" or uplifting universal values; it does not welcome immigrants, and views foreigners with the same sort of suspicion and disdain that Chinese citizens themselves find in much of East Asia.

Even in the economic sphere there is less than meets the eye. Most Chinese, the overwhelming number of them, live in crushing rural and urban poverty, work under appalling conditions, and suffer levels of environmental pollution and food contamination that no Western society would tolerate. The mass education system is a disaster. Increasingly foreign firms, which, after all, have fueled China's economic growth, are encountering shortages of skilled and semi-skilled workers, and are no longer quite so eager to set up shop in China.

China's banks are a mystery. They are secretive, corrupt, and work closely with the Party and the government. China pursues a policy which will be coming to the end of its rope soon, that of keeping its currency artificially low to keep exports cheap, and try to keep the job creation machine churning. The central bank, which holds the largest foreign currency reserves in the world, must come up with ways ("sterilization") to sop up the currency generated in China by the influx of foreign currency to prevent inflation and prevent the Chinese currency from appreciating against other major currencies. This involves forcing the banks to keep an ever increasing reserve, and forcing them to buy low or no yield government bonds. I am no expert, but the ones whom I know wonder how long that can continue. The experts ignore another aspect to this: the overseas political side of it. China's trading partners, the US and Europe most notably, are reaching the end of their patience with China's currency manipulations. A trade war is not inconceivable; China would have the most to lose.

One of the greatest threats to China's future is President Obama. His administration's reckless spending and conjuring of dollars out of thin air, is ruining us and stretching the Chinese ability to "sterilize" the effects of all these cheap dollars pouring in. It is no wonder that Chinese authorities have been lecturing Obama on the need for fiscal restraint and budgetary responsibility. China is tied to our mast. If we sink, they go with us--their billions and billions of dollars in US bonds, worthless. Let's view it as a backhanded compliment to our silly President.

As stated at the outset, China will have as much power and influence as we let them have. China's future as a superpower will be decided in Washington, not in Beijing. Under the Communists, China has not proven an inventive or innovative society; their technological progress is bought, borrowed, copied, or stolen. The USSR tried that, too. They offer no compelling alternative vision to the West's prosperity and freedom. They can try to become a military bully, but that will go only so far in their very complicated neighborhood and with the serious structural and resource weaknesses they suffer.

China should copy and try one thing from the West it has not so far: it works in Japan, in the Republic of Korea, and, ironically, in the "breakaway" Chinese province of Taiwan. I am talking about freedom, the real kind, not the Communist Party kind.

Sounds like the sort of thing that might appeal to Tea Party type nuts.
 
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China went from very poor to poor. He was in South East asia, he should know what the same old same old is. lol, if anyone is an expert on that it's him.

Brutal? In what way? Perhaps the one child policy, but that has just as many supporters both inside and outside of China compared to detractors. India is even thinking of it, sort of, at least quite a few support it inside India.

Political dissent? This guy is a moron then, Falungong is pretty open today in China, I mean the pamphlets are everywhere, and guys are recruiting and stuff everywhere. Nobody cares. People criticize China a lot, on Weibou, in real life, at least 10 protests every day, legal or not, and a lot of other crap.

Just because the official line and the old bias say it isn't doesn't mean it isn't. These things are very easy to verify. Go to a building see the pamphlets, get some Chinese friends and hear the complains, walk down a street and see the protests. Go on Weibou and have your brain fried.


Dude has no idea who Confucius is or why he was made the model for China, especially, he doesn't know jack crap about Chinese culture, this is like me saying well now America follows Aristotle or something like that. He's attributing many to one.

Tibet has problems, but funny he didn't mention the medical service we must provide, the no interest loans for students, the land, the benefits of being a minority and all that.

Run away from Chinese cops? He means run away from american cops. I see American and Canadian cops literally everywhere, sometimes 4 police cars in one drive, I see Chinese cops almost never, unless you count traffic cops, which dont' carry a gun.

I seen guys eating at McDonalds with a gun, while our guys don't have a gun even on a hunt.

Same as after Stalin? This really proves it, if he thinks this is the same as after Stalin times, then he needs to go back into the pensieve and compare the mood.

There's no Chinese walking down the street and thinking, am I going to get my *** kicked? But the same can't be true about America. While I understand the fear he talks about, but it's not an accurate sum up of it. He makes it look like everyone has no choice and is fearful, while if that were true, we be North Korea, and even NK isn't the same as people say, I'm not saying it's good, but it's very generalized, though if it weren't we need books to document what NK is really like.

Every country's elite decide, Obamacare, stiumlius, more taxes, less taxes, and everything else in between, you are saying >50% believe in any one of those?

Difference is America elects them, China choose them base on resume, you will never see someone with Obama's resume be anywhere near the center of power.

We are fine as a developing power, there's this thing called the China system now, people usually don't follow something that doesn't work, but then again, our good friend Solomon follows you, so I don't know.


One child prolicy has problems, name me an American policy that doesn't. China ranks better on women's roles than even Japan and Korea. So what's Korea doing? Boiling women for food?

Could we improve? Of course.

Regarding this issue, he could have talked about any number of issues still exist, yet he chose the easy one and coincidentally, the one that's not true and certainly proved his credentials. He could talk about Women's role in society in Rural areas, Women's access to social services and education due to being a unregistered first child, domestic violence, media perception and much more. Yet here he is.


A diplomat really? South Asia likes China better than India why? Cause we are not in South Asia, and our influence there however big will always be smaller than an Indian one.

People want to be American due to the prestige, look at china 30 years ago, look at America 30 years ago, back then anyone given the chance would run to America, but now, a lot are returning, can you see 30 years later from now?

As to racism, that's a problem everyone faces, now obviously China is a developing nation with not as much exposure to immigrants but if you are going to go that route, look at the camps in Europe and the way Japanese treat people, do I even need to say what America is suppose to do to those that seeks a better life in the name of human rights.

Now, I'm not saying we are better than America or close, but looking at our development levels, I say at this point of development, we are far more accepting than Americans were, for one thing we don't have a black only toilet.

Most Walmart employees can't live without food stamps, factories use South Americans as "slave labor," there was an ad that says Americans are better because you work more.

China isn't better, but we all got problems, for China's development level that's the price. Though India or Africa doesn't have this problem, cause they dont' got jobs, not as many as we do anyways.

The education system has it's benefits and downsides, like any system, no one is perfect, but for China right now, it's to preach the importance of it, and to built up that first and second batch of experienced employees so they can pass on their experience and knowledge to new people and let the cycle start.

Shortage of skilled labors? They are short on labors, yes, chinese are much more advanced today and they don't want to nor need to be anyone's lab dog anymore. More and more are looking to a service job rather than in the manufacturing.

By every indication that's a positive sign, but like all the other points, here it is.



when is this soon? At least the Chang man had the courage to set a date, but like the God pushers before him, he was wrong and will continue to be so. Shock I even saw a positive article from him about China the other day.

US and EU will have patients, that or we can all go down, seeing as Obama and Cameron are not children that like to see the world burn for spite, Mr. whatever your name is, you are very much in the minority here, unless you go to pre school, or high school, then you be in the majority.


Whether Obama is competent or not, he didn't start the policy and he can't be the one to end it. China won't sink with you, though we will be affected, probably badly, so will the rest of the world, and the one that has the best tools to climb up, is the nation with a hand in the poor and rich cookie jar, able to produce at relatively low cost, while able to design like the developed nations.



Really? In DC? Maybe DC can also tell me what to get my GF, though she doesn't like DC shoes, cause it's kinda lame. Inventive? Innovation? You mean Japan? Oh wait, Japan and Korea proved with time and investment they will come, and Nazi Germany and Stalin USSr were the beacon of innovation, just because you lead now, don't forget what happened just a few decades ago.

The USSR by size is not bigger than US and to be fair also not as involved in the world economic game. Today you are talkingto the number one trading nation, and the number one biggest nation. We have more friends than the two and a half "frienames" here, and we are the most important partner for Africa, and many other nations around the world.

One tax and high standards on coal and Australia is talking like we ruined Christmas. Though we kinda did, but we are just copying the Grinch, I mean that's all we are good for no?

As to freedom? Define it, I seen so many Western people come to China only then to completely change their view on China.
just get to the point.
 
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