China's Blitzkrieg on U.S. Carrier

[gambit]

Guys, there is no point arguing in an online forum about the superior quality of Chinese weapons/tactics over Western ones. Remember one of Sun Tzu's tenets.

When able, you must appear unable, and vice versa.

It's to our advantage to let the military be underestimated. Never forget this.

Why do you think the CCP boasted about its many achievements in the 70's and 80's when they're in deplorable form? Why do you think the CCP no longer makes those proclamations of superior ability and instead chooses to emphasize the peaceful aspects of its army?

Don't make the mistake of giving up tactical advantage for a few moments of 逞嘴皮子.

And that is why China predicted that the US would have massive casualty in Desert Storm. Also, we do not have regular military parades with jackbooted high kicking troopers designed to impress the gullible. Looks like we followed Sun Tzu better than China does.

 

[doidoi2]

And that is why China predicted that the US would have massive casualty in Desert Storm. Also, we do not have regular military parades with jackbooted high kicking troopers designed to impress the gullible. Looks like we followed Sun Tzu better than China does.

You're absolutely right. America > China in every way. China won't catch up militarily for at least 100 years (as Lee Kuan Yew has said). Not too sure what Americans are worried about. Nothing but paper tiger here.

 

[gambit]

You're absolutely right. America > China in every way. China won't catch up militarily for at least 100 years (as Lee Kuan Yew has said). Not too sure what Americans are worried about. Nothing but paper tiger here.

The difference between the Americans on this forum versus the Chinese on this forum is that a few of us actually served in the military, have traveled to foreign countries and served with their militaries, and understands our military's weaknesses as well as our strengths. Whereas not one of the Chinese members here, from mainland China or the US, have even passed through Basic. So which ones of us all are really vulnerable to the guilt of underestimating a potential adversary?

 

[LetsGetRowdy]

The difference between the Americans on this forum versus the Chinese on this forum is that a few of us actually served in the military, have traveled to foreign countries and served with their militaries, and understands our military's weaknesses as well as our strengths. Whereas not one of the Chinese members here, from mainland China or the US, have even passed through Basic. So which ones of us all are really vulnerable to the guilt of underestimating a potential adversary?

The difference is because Americans (not you, you are vietnamese) are from a war-mongering nation, no other nations on earth has invaded more countries in the past decade compared to the US.

 

[amalakas]

The difference between the Americans on this forum versus the Chinese on this forum is that a few of us actually served in the military, have traveled to foreign countries and served with their militaries, and understands our military's weaknesses as well as our strengths. Whereas not one of the Chinese members here, from mainland China or the US, have even passed through Basic. So which ones of us all are really vulnerable to the guilt of underestimating a potential adversary?

lessons learned through serving with different militaries within NATO for example are invaluable.

I mentioned before that when the Greek Airforce conducted training run against a CVN, the de-briefing /feedback we got was that the tactics employed were never seen before and an eye opener for the US Navy in pelagic environments with a multitude of islands.

Guess who knows more about defending a fleet now than they used to know 10 years ago!

 

[Oldman1]

The difference is because Americans (not you, you are vietnamese) are from a war-mongering nation, no other nations on earth has invaded more countries in the past decade compared to the US.

Not every country is a superpower, can only invade one nation or so. Kind of like Iraq invading Kuwait.

 

[UKBengali]

US versus Iraq proves the superiority of the US?

 

[gambit]

The difference is because Americans (not you, you are vietnamese)...

I am an American. Or do you prefer to look at the world through a racial/racist prism?

...are from a war-mongering nation, no other nations on earth has invaded more countries in the past decade compared to the US.

For what reasons? How many of those countries do you want to live in? Why are so many people want to 'invade' US through immigration?

 

[Oldman1]

US versus Iraq proves the superiority of the US?

Of course. Iraq could only invade one country. We invaded multiple. Unless you can prove me wrong that Iraq can invade a dozen countries in a few decades.

 

[terranMarine]

I am an American. Or do you prefer to look at the world through a racial/racist prism?


For what reasons? How many of those countries do you want to live in? Why are so many people want to 'invade' US through immigration?

For what reasons you ask? You tell us why your country have wage wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea.
Let me give you some history facts in a nutshell

* US feared Communism
- US attacked North Vietnam and North Korea.
- US placed Jupiter missiles (armed with nuclear warheads) in Italy and Turkey targeting USSR
- US wanted to overthrow Cuba and kill Castro
- USSR responded, this led to the Cuban missile crisis
- Both countries came to an agreement: USSR remove nuclear missiles from Cuba, US remove Jupiter missiles from Italy and Turkey and promised not to invade Cuba.

During the Iraq-Iran conflict , US didn't want Iraq to lose and thus provided help to Saddam with arms but still considered Iraq a country supporting terrorists. When Saddam decided to attack Kuwait, US declared war on Iraq (operation dessert storm)

After 9/11, US started hunting down Bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Believed they were hiding in Afghanistan so the US launched a war in that country.

US accused Iraq of developing nuclear weapons and supporting al-Qaeda and told the world that they had proofs.
After capturing Saddam and defeated the country, no proof of nukes can be found.

US wanted to place defense missile shield in Poland and Czech in order to protect EU from Iranian threats.
Russia doubts the US intention and think they could be targeting Russian ICMB.

Why was US so anxious for actions against Libya and now in Syria but didn't want to intervene when hell broke loose in Egypt?

Everything points to one thing and that is Americans want to replace those unfriendly government towards their country with one that is so called better for its civilians but also acceptable to the US.

 

[gambit]

For what reasons you ask? You tell us why your country have wage wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea.
Let me give you some history facts in a nutshell

Am old enough to be your father. I lived through the Cold War.

* US feared Communism

Good reason.

- US attacked North Vietnam and North Korea.

To contain communism. A good reason.

- US placed Jupiter missiles (armed with nuclear warheads) in Italy and Turkey targeting USSR

To contain communism. A good reason.

- US wanted to overthrow Cuba and kill Castro

To contain communism. A good reason.

- USSR responded, this led to the Cuban missile crisis

Which the USSR backed down. A good reason.

- Both countries came to an agreement: USSR remove nuclear missiles from Cuba, US remove Jupiter missiles from Italy and Turkey and promised not to invade Cuba.

And communism was contained in the Western Hemisphere. A good reason.

During the Iraq-Iran conflict , US didn't want Iraq to lose and thus provided help to Saddam with arms but still considered Iraq a country supporting terrorists.

To contain Iran, a nutcase country. A good reason. Besides, we were not the only one who wanted to contain Iran. Convenient that you ignored the rest of the ME. And you want to teach me a history lesson?

When Saddam decided to attack Kuwait, US declared war on Iraq (operation dessert storm)

A good reason.

After 9/11, US started hunting down Bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Believed they were hiding in Afghanistan so the US launched a war in that country.

And we were correct. A good reason.

US accused Iraq of developing nuclear weapons and supporting al-Qaeda and told the world that they had proofs.
After capturing Saddam and defeated the country, no proof of nukes can be found.

WMD in itself is a good reason. Whether actual weapons were there or not is a different issue. Convenient that you ignore dozens of other countries, including those in the ME, who believed in the same thing and wanted US to take do 'something' about it. And you want to teach me a history lesson?

US wanted to place defense missile shield in Poland and Czech in order to protect EU from Iranian threats.

A good reason.

Russia doubts the US intention and think they could be targeting Russian ICMB.

Different issue.

Why was US so anxious for actions against Libya and now in Syria but didn't want to intervene when hell broke loose in Egypt?

Because Egypt is not threatening anyone. Yet.

Everything points to one thing and that is Americans want to replace those unfriendly government towards their country with one that is so called better for its civilians but also acceptable to the US.

Beats invading for oil, women, and natural resources, ya think?

 

[Oldman1]

For what reasons you ask? You tell us why your country have wage wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea.
Let me give you some history facts in a nutshell

* US feared Communism

Based on Soviet's past to support communism sure we feared it.

- US attacked North Vietnam and North Korea.

North Vietnam invaded South, North Korea invaded South its a well known fact.

- US placed Jupiter missiles (armed with nuclear warheads) in Italy and Turkey targeting USSR

USSR attempted to spread communism in Turkey and Greece hence the reason for it.

- US wanted to overthrow Cuba and kill Castro

Soviets would have done the same just like close to home in Eastern and Southern Europe.

- USSR responded, this led to the Cuban missile crisis
- Both countries came to an agreement: USSR remove nuclear missiles from Cuba, US remove Jupiter missiles from Italy and Turkey and promised not to invade Cuba.

Thats awesome but didn't matter since we have SSBNs.

During the Iraq-Iran conflict , US didn't want Iraq to lose and thus provided help to Saddam with arms but still considered Iraq a country supporting terrorists. When Saddam decided to attack Kuwait, US declared war on Iraq (operation dessert storm)

Name one U.S. equipment in Iraq's arsenal that we sold to.

After 9/11, US started hunting down Bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Believed they were hiding in Afghanistan so the US launched a war in that country.

And?

US accused Iraq of developing nuclear weapons and supporting al-Qaeda and told the world that they had proofs.
After capturing Saddam and defeated the country, no proof of nukes can be found.

Past history of using chemical weapons in Iraq and Iran as well as messing with the U.N. inspections tends to lead to Saddam's downfall.

US wanted to place defense missile shield in Poland and Czech in order to protect EU from Iranian threats.
Russia doubts the US intention and think they could be targeting Russian ICMB.

Learn geography. If Iran were to fire missiles where would it go?

Why was US so anxious for actions against Libya and now in Syria but didn't want to intervene when hell broke loose in Egypt?

Didn't lead to civil war and it was quick.

Everything points to one thing and that is Americans want to replace those unfriendly government towards their country with one that is so called better for its civilians but also acceptable to the US.

Pretty much everything you pointed just contradicts what you just put out.

 

[longyi]

I wonder these two guys are marry to each other or is the same guy with two different IDs. Their MOs are almost identical.

 

[gambit]

I wonder these two guys are marry to each other or is the same guy with two different IDs. Their MOs are almost identical.

And you Chinese boys...???

 

[timetravel]

And you Chinese boys...???

they are all sitting in one big room, with CD overlooking them and giving instructions