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China’s [$34 Trillion] Debt Bomb

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https://www.bloombergquint.com/global-economics/2018/09/17/chinas-debt-bomb#gs.8_Aiv5g

Bloomberg) -- It’s been called a mountain, a horror movie, a treadmill to hell and a bomb. To doomsayers, China's $34 trillion pile of public and private debt is an explosive threat to the global economy. Or maybe it's just a manageable byproduct of the boom that created the world’s second-biggest economy. Either way, the buildup has been breathtaking, with borrowing quadrupling in seven years by one estimate. (China doesn't give a complete tally). President Xi Jinping has taken note, pushing authorities to announce a slew of measures that target risks lurking in the financial system. The challenge is how to wean the country off its debt drip without intensifying an economic slowdown. Since China is a key driver of global growth, it's a matter of concern for everybody.

The Situation
Even with the government focus on deleveraging, Chinese borrowing rose 14 percent in 2017, ballooning to 266 percent of gross domestic product, from 162 percent in 2008. That growth outpaced the U.K. and U.S. in the decade before the financial crisis. However, the de-risking campaign has begun to bite: Once-rare corporate debt defaults ran at a record pace in 2018; China’s huge conglomerates were reined in following debt-fueled acquisition sprees; the government targeted spending cuts in its budget; and sweeping rules were introduced to tackle shadow banking, a $10 trillion network of unregulated lending and risky investment products. There’s also been a focus on curbing loans to bloated state-owned enterprises, a task that Xi termed “the priority of priorities.” (More than half of China’s debt is held by state and private corporations.) The upshot is that the cycle of expanding credit that began in 2004 has ended, according to S&P Global Ratings. Nonetheless, former central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan warned in late 2017 of a buildup of financial risks that are “hidden, complex, sudden, contagious and hazardous.”

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The Background
During the 2008 financial crisis, Beijing ordered local governments to build roads, bridges and other public works to keep the economy pumping and workers in jobs. It set off a borrowing binge that’s invited comparisons with Japan’s debt bubble of the 1980s. That ended in a property and stock market crash which left banks saddled with bad debt for decades. China has seen busts before. In the late 1990s, after years of state-directed lending, at least a quarter of the nation’s credit soured, triggering a $650 billion bailout of state banks. The central government retains tight controls over banks, foreign exchange and capital flows, so it can manipulate the financial system to contain the debt burden and limit the risk of a blowup. At the same time, officials say they are keen to introduce more free-market discipline, which could further increase their tolerance for bankruptcies. China’s concerted shift toward an economy driven by domestic consumption, and less reliant on debt-intensive heavy industry and exports, is also contributing to the easing of the debt habit. Even so, the government remains willing to change tack when the economy is threatened: A brewing trade war with the U.S., coinciding with those moves to curb leverage and shadow banking, began to make it harder for companies to get funding in 2018. That prompted authorities to introduce monetary easing measures, such as freeing up banks to make more loans to smaller businesses.

The Argument
Optimists say concerns about China’s debt are overblown; companies and local governments can simply grow their way out of the problem as an expanding economy supports borrowers and creates inflation, which erodes the burden of debt repayments. China’s high savings rate helps, as does a long run of current-account surpluses, which makes the country a net lender to other nations rather than a net borrower. Pessimists say the problem is not self-correcting. They expect policy makers to tackle nonperforming loans and stave off defaults. Options include cutting interest rates, expanding programs where investors swap debt for equity, clamping down harder on shadow banking, pushing for asset sales and encouraging more companies to raise money through stock sales. There’s a risk that China’s debt could at best be a drag on global growth for decades or at worst trigger a new financial crisis. Such warnings have been sounded for years, however, all the while as China has continued an unprecedented economic expansion driven by mountains of credit.
 
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How many times you have to be educated about China?

"There is the myth of an impending crash of the Chinese economy due to its debt overhang. China’s debt level had indeed surged in the aftermath of the global financial crisis when the government opened the spigot to flood the economy with bank lending. It helped holding up China’s economic growth, and in so doing provided much needed support to the global economy as well. However, China’s debt level also rose to among the highest in the world measured as a percentage of GDP, and has led to dire warnings of a coming financial crisis. The argument runs that, to avert a financial crisis, China has no choice but to deleverage, but in so doing the economy could crash.

What is overlooked is the fact that virtually all China’s debt is domestic, and most of it is owed by state-owned enterprises to state-owned banks. In other words, most debts are owed by one part of the government to another. Coupled with China’s massive foreign reserves, this makes a debt crisis like that of Greece impossible. China dealt with a worse debt situation in the 1990s by removing the banks’ non-performing loans and recapitalizing the banks. In the worst case scenario, the government could do so again; and today its fiscal power is stronger than in the 1990s."

The debt owned by China is also China's asset
 
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The debt if US is mainly foreign owed. The monetary policy of US is conducted by a private banking consortium that runs the country through the privately held Federal Reserves. Americans need to worry as it is one of the western countries that allow private consortiim to run its treasury! :coffee:

Chinese central banks and regular banks are owned by the Chinese people. There are no foreigners that can blackmail China unlike US.
 
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If the majority of the debt is owed by Chinese companies or Provinces to Chinese banks, then this is similar to how Japan, which is said to have 230% Debt to GDP ratio is still holding steady (maintaining its GDP) while it expects a 15% population drop in the next 30 years.
China should be fine, as long as the infrastructure is used. Moving people from the older buildings to the "ghost cities" may increase economic development as small local businesses can work better with more modern infrastructure.

The Growth china hopes for is from overseas Projects. Hence the Chinese companies seeking high ROI on infrastructure projects abroad to pay off debts ad keep workers employed. Other Countries need to keep this in mind, and negotiate hard, even if China is the only one willing to loan to these underdeveloped countries in large amounts. Many analysts expect the global economy is going to contract in the next 2-3 years, and growth in the underdeveloped countries through modernizing infrastructure and factories will be where more developed countries will try to find their profits and a market for their firms. The new Malaysian Government is the leader in negotiating hard for it interests. They are trying to balance development with due diligence.
 
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Another China debt trouble article, it is getting boring...

If one look at some hard numbers from IMF debt database between US, China and Japan (Japan is here for comparative purpose) :)

% Debt of GDP at 2017/2018

Japan private (household)- 57%
Japan private (corporate)- 101%
Japan Public. - 223%
Japan Total - 381%

US private (household)- 78%
US private (corporate)- 72%
US Public. - 150%
US Total. - 257%

China private (household)- 44%
China private (corporate)- 149%
China Public. - 48%
China Total. - 241%

As far as my elementary math concerned, China’s total debt position is still below that of US, and way below that of Japan. And finally only 15% of China’s debt is sourced externally, compared to US at 94% and Japan’s 74%. It is self explanatory that who is in a riskier position. Interestingly you don’t see many US or Japan debt problem articles floating around.

Japan Total External - 74%
US Total External - 94%
China Total External - 15%

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/datasets/GDD
 
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western disinformation campaign.

I call it goebbels propaganda.
 
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Another China debt trouble article, it is getting boring...

If one look at some hard numbers from IMF debt database between US, China and Japan (Japan is here for comparative purpose) :)

% Debt of GDP at 2017/2018

Japan private (household)- 57%
Japan private (corporate)- 101%
Japan Public. - 223%
Japan Total - 381%

US private (household)- 78%
US private (corporate)- 72%
US Public. - 150%
US Total. - 257%

China private (household)- 44%
China private (corporate)- 149%
China Public. - 48%
China Total. - 241%

As far as my elementary math concerned, China’s total debt position is still below that of US, and way below that of Japan. And finally only 15% of China’s debt is sourced externally, compared to US at 94% and Japan’s 74%. It is self explanatory that who is in a riskier position. Interestingly you don’t see many US or Japan debt problem articles floating around.

Japan Total External - 74%
US Total External - 94%
China Total External - 15%

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/datasets/GDD

Japan is the most indebted country in the world and they have been pursing aggressive monetary policies for quite awhile. Anyway China shouldn't be compared with Japan or the US because they are advanced mature economies which usually have higher debt ratios. What's worrying isn't now but rather the future.

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What's critical is to reform the SOEs and cut down on wasteful investments which generate little returns and bad debts. They pose risks to the financial sector in the long run.
 
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