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Shankar Sharma & Devina Mehra: China's $22 trillion time-bomb

For years, a wispy, gossamer dream has been spun by economists working for Wall Street investment banks about how China has managed the impossible: high growth with a very low debt-to-GDP ratio. The dream has been so aggressively sold that almost everybody believes it, including editors of this newspaper who have written glowingly about China’s growth, how far ahead it is of India, how India should give up this race once and for all and so on.

Like all things churned out by Wall Street, this romantic story is also complete rubbish. Regardless of the level of education, we all behave the same way when we analyse countries: we land at the airport, see multi-lane highways, gleaming skyscrapers in the city centre, massive infrastructure development, teeming shopping malls, tall apartment blocks and golf courses. And immediately jump to the conclusion that this country has done it. It has made it. If you are an Indian, you say this country has left India behind by 100 or 200 years.

But it is instructive to remember what a crafty villain in an old Hindi movie said: “Har badi kaamyabi ke peeche koi gunaah chhupa hai…” (Behind every great success, lies hidden a great crime).

Just as behind nearly every rapid economic growth story, lies hidden, debt. Usually lots of it. Just like Ireland that went from being a really poor country in the 1980s to getting to the top of European Union’s per capital GDP league tables — all within 20 years or so.

China is no exception. The common wisdom is that China runs a very low debt-to-GDP ratio of around 30 per cent (this ratio was in the low 20s till 2007 but jumped sharply during the 2008 crisis), which gives it lots of firepower to keep reflating the economy and to keep recapitalising its banks. The reality is that this ratio is plain wrong. China’s growth model is based on the oldest rapid economic growth hormone available: debt.

China has debt at various levels and pockets. Let’s add to this central debt, the local government and provincial debt figures. This figure is around $1.9 trillion. Let’s further add the obligations of the Ministry of Railways. That’s $360 billion. And finally let’s also add 80 per cent of outstanding bank credit. This adds $6.3 trillion. We add bank loans to national debt because unlike most countries, China uses banks for nearly all of its directed, policy lending programmes. For example, the stimulus of 2008-09 was financed largely by banks. By pushing its lending via the banks’ balance sheets, China creates the impression of a country that has very low budget deficits and, of course, very low central debt. We take 80 per cent of bank debt into the national debt figures under the assumption that 20 per cent goes towards consumer and private sector credit.

Now let’s total up the few trillions we have unearthed. As of 2011, this figure amounted to a tad over $10 trillion! And the ratio of total debt to GDP becomes a more ominous 149 per cent. Mind you, there may be other debts that are obligations of the central government that we don’t know about since reliability of data in China is suspect, to say the least. It is eminently possible that debt is understated and GDP overstated.

But the story gets worse from hereon. China’s growth model is highly capital or, more accurately, debt intensive. We have calculated a ratio called DIG (debt intensity of GDP), that is, the amount of debt needed to generate one unit of GDP. This ratio started out being in the 0.9 to 1.2 range in the first half of the nineties. During the Asian crisis, this ratio worsened to around two as China again threw loads of debt to come out of the slowdown. The ratio subsided a bit to below one in the boom years from 2003 to 2007. But it jumped dramatically to over four in 2008 as China threw a huge amount of money at an unprecedented slowdown. The trouble is that given the overall low growth environment globally and the worsening trade situation for China, generating a unit of GDP growth now requires higher and higher doses of debt. And, in hindsight, we will look back and say this stimulus of 2008-09 was a colossal mistake.

So what does the DIG ratio lead us to? See the table.

As we can see, each crisis leads to a worsening of the DIG ratio and, concomitantly, a sharp worsening of the total debt-to-GDP ratio as China starts building bridges and roads to nowhere in order to reflate.

The bigger problem lies ahead. Given this inclined treadmill model, if China grows faster, the bigger the debt problem becomes. For the sake of calculation, let’s assume the DIG ratio goes to 1.7 over the next four years till 2016 and that China wishes to grow at eight per cent. The total debt-to-GDP ratio at the end of 2016 becomes 180 per cent, up from the 150 per cent of 2011! In absolute terms, China’s total debt will reach $22 trillion. Coupled with a worsening demographic picture, this high total debt-to-GDP ratio becomes a trap from which there is virtually no escape. To compound the problem, China’s private consumption expenditure (PCE) to GDP has declined sharply to 33 per cent from 55 per cent 20 years ago. The ratio of net exports to GDP has fallen to 3.9 per cent in 2010, from 8.8 per cent in 2007. It’s only the ratio of gross fixed capital formation to GDP that has jumped to over 50 per cent in 2011 from 25 per cent a few years ago. As is clear, if China has to maintain its pace of growth, it has to pile on more debt. If it slows down, its social powder keg starts getting incendiary.

We are not even counting the burgeoning, widespread non-performing loans problem that is looming large and will, in all probability, lead to China’s fourth systemic banking crisis in less than 25 years. If this is a growth model, then it is even worse than the Western growth model.

So, the bullets China has in order to emerge from this rock-and-a-hard-place situation are few, if any at all. China is indeed riding the tiger. In contrast, India’s is the Toyota Prius of growth models. India should simply avoid the trap of excessive public spending on infrastructure. That’s where almost every country in Asia, including Japan in the nineties to China and Dubai now, has run into problems. India’s growth model is infinitely more robust and time will prove this to a world bedazzled by China.
 
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it is know by every one in the world nothing new. china is just a japan in the making. they will grow manufacture a lot and then slow down like a good kid or they could crash and dissapoint the world. it is bound to happen.
 
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As the last Sentence Says...Time will tell.

Half of all the article is based on speculation, but the speculation is based on valid trends ....Nevertheless they are still speculations

well have to wait and watch...
 
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china has built 80000km of expressways, 40000km of high speed rail, 4000 skyscrapercers, 100 ghost cities, 500 ghost malls, 100 million empty apartments, 100s of empty building whose prices r going up by 150% every 3 yrs but they r sold only 3%. all this has been built with printed money and bank lending...

HU WILL PAY FOR ALL THIS?

their infra make canada look like a 3rd world country and india a 5th world country.
 
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One more prediction of China's collapse from the Indians. I'll add it to the already long list. :lol:

Here, read this 2008 article from an Indian "think tank", which predicted the collapse of China during the 2008 Credit Crunch:

The Fall of the Dragon - IDR




Now, four years later in 2012, what is the result? We can all see for ourselves. :azn:

BBC News - India's GDP growth falls to 6.1%

India's obsession with the collapse of their neighbours, has ensured that their own dreams of reaching "double-digit growth" have now collapsed.
 
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indians talking about chinese debt is the definition of pot calling the kettle black.

the entire indian economy is based on debt, india cannot grow without going into debt.

its a massive debt bubble. bubble nation.

mark my words, the indian ponzi scheme will collapse soon.
 
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One more prediction of China's collapse from the Indians. I'll add it to the already long list. :lol:

Here, read this 2008 article from an Indian "think tank", which predicted the collapse of China during the 2008 Credit Crunch:

The Fall of the Dragon - IDR

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Now, four years later in 2012, what is the result? We can see for ourselves. :azn:

BBC News - India's GDP growth falls to 6.1%


loll this india article u gave link for is not talking abt economic collape but geographical collapse. now we r talking abt economic collapse. it doesnt means that china will collapse but slow down economically from 9% to 2% in next few years. japan was said the same thing in 1990 they laughed it off like u guys coz they also did all their developments on debts. but look at them now their economy is destroyed and they have beggars from leaders. u guys are heading at some way at 10 times faster speed. its cpp that is holding this country together any other countru would have crased by now.
 
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indians are economic newbies.
none of them understand economics, thats why their growth is collapsing, their currency is collapsing, and their debt is skyrocketing.
 
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indians talking about chinese debt is the definition of pot calling the kettle black.

the entire indian economy is based on debt, india cannot grow without going into debt.

its a massive debt bubble. bubble nation.

mark my words, the indian ponzi scheme will collapse soon.

we r not collapsing mr economist. our buisness men sit on a stock pile of 170 billion dollars or real money and are everready to invest into country. india will maintain 8% growth. just 2 quarters were bad last year. while on the other hand ur chr rail is under debt of 5% of gdp

2010 rail spending: 112 billion
2011: 76
2012: 50
so is china growing or slowing down u gotta decide??
 
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Shankar Sharma & Devina Mehra: China's $22 trillion time-bomb

For years, a wispy, gossamer dream has been spun by economists working for Wall Street investment banks about how China has managed the impossible: high growth with a very low debt-to-GDP ratio. The dream has been so aggressively sold that almost everybody believes it, including editors of this newspaper who have written glowingly about China’s growth, how far ahead it is of India, how India should give up this race once and for all and so on.

Like all things churned out by Wall Street, this romantic story is also complete rubbish. Regardless of the level of education, we all behave the same way when we analyse countries: we land at the airport, see multi-lane highways, gleaming skyscrapers in the city centre, massive infrastructure development, teeming shopping malls, tall apartment blocks and golf courses. And immediately jump to the conclusion that this country has done it. It has made it. If you are an Indian, you say this country has left India behind by 100 or 200 years.

But it is instructive to remember what a crafty villain in an old Hindi movie said: “Har badi kaamyabi ke peeche koi gunaah chhupa hai…” (Behind every great success, lies hidden a great crime).

Just as behind nearly every rapid economic growth story, lies hidden, debt. Usually lots of it. Just like Ireland that went from being a really poor country in the 1980s to getting to the top of European Union’s per capital GDP league tables — all within 20 years or so.

China is no exception. The common wisdom is that China runs a very low debt-to-GDP ratio of around 30 per cent (this ratio was in the low 20s till 2007 but jumped sharply during the 2008 crisis), which gives it lots of firepower to keep reflating the economy and to keep recapitalising its banks. The reality is that this ratio is plain wrong. China’s growth model is based on the oldest rapid economic growth hormone available: debt.

China has debt at various levels and pockets. Let’s add to this central debt, the local government and provincial debt figures. This figure is around $1.9 trillion. Let’s further add the obligations of the Ministry of Railways. That’s $360 billion. And finally let’s also add 80 per cent of outstanding bank credit. This adds $6.3 trillion. We add bank loans to national debt because unlike most countries, China uses banks for nearly all of its directed, policy lending programmes. For example, the stimulus of 2008-09 was financed largely by banks. By pushing its lending via the banks’ balance sheets, China creates the impression of a country that has very low budget deficits and, of course, very low central debt. We take 80 per cent of bank debt into the national debt figures under the assumption that 20 per cent goes towards consumer and private sector credit.

Now let’s total up the few trillions we have unearthed. As of 2011, this figure amounted to a tad over $10 trillion! And the ratio of total debt to GDP becomes a more ominous 149 per cent. Mind you, there may be other debts that are obligations of the central government that we don’t know about since reliability of data in China is suspect, to say the least. It is eminently possible that debt is understated and GDP overstated.

But the story gets worse from hereon. China’s growth model is highly capital or, more accurately, debt intensive. We have calculated a ratio called DIG (debt intensity of GDP), that is, the amount of debt needed to generate one unit of GDP. This ratio started out being in the 0.9 to 1.2 range in the first half of the nineties. During the Asian crisis, this ratio worsened to around two as China again threw loads of debt to come out of the slowdown. The ratio subsided a bit to below one in the boom years from 2003 to 2007. But it jumped dramatically to over four in 2008 as China threw a huge amount of money at an unprecedented slowdown. The trouble is that given the overall low growth environment globally and the worsening trade situation for China, generating a unit of GDP growth now requires higher and higher doses of debt. And, in hindsight, we will look back and say this stimulus of 2008-09 was a colossal mistake.

So what does the DIG ratio lead us to? See the table.

As we can see, each crisis leads to a worsening of the DIG ratio and, concomitantly, a sharp worsening of the total debt-to-GDP ratio as China starts building bridges and roads to nowhere in order to reflate.

The bigger problem lies ahead. Given this inclined treadmill model, if China grows faster, the bigger the debt problem becomes. For the sake of calculation, let’s assume the DIG ratio goes to 1.7 over the next four years till 2016 and that China wishes to grow at eight per cent. The total debt-to-GDP ratio at the end of 2016 becomes 180 per cent, up from the 150 per cent of 2011! In absolute terms, China’s total debt will reach $22 trillion. Coupled with a worsening demographic picture, this high total debt-to-GDP ratio becomes a trap from which there is virtually no escape. To compound the problem, China’s private consumption expenditure (PCE) to GDP has declined sharply to 33 per cent from 55 per cent 20 years ago. The ratio of net exports to GDP has fallen to 3.9 per cent in 2010, from 8.8 per cent in 2007. It’s only the ratio of gross fixed capital formation to GDP that has jumped to over 50 per cent in 2011 from 25 per cent a few years ago. As is clear, if China has to maintain its pace of growth, it has to pile on more debt. If it slows down, its social powder keg starts getting incendiary.

We are not even counting the burgeoning, widespread non-performing loans problem that is looming large and will, in all probability, lead to China’s fourth systemic banking crisis in less than 25 years. If this is a growth model, then it is even worse than the Western growth model.

So, the bullets China has in order to emerge from this rock-and-a-hard-place situation are few, if any at all. China is indeed riding the tiger. In contrast, India’s is the Toyota Prius of growth models. India should simply avoid the trap of excessive public spending on infrastructure. That’s where almost every country in Asia, including Japan in the nineties to China and Dubai now, has run into problems. India’s growth model is infinitely more robust and time will prove this to a world bedazzled by China.
Oh!! i guess the poor India can't do anything but to cry of jealousy with China's economic growth....so sad to see that behavior......:smokin:
 
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indian debt is growing at 10% per year, thats on top of a 70% debt to gdp.

staggering debt.

indian growth is already collapsing all due to debt, they want to cut back on deficits, but they dont understand that without them going into debt, they cannot grow.

as all ponzi schemes, they all collapse, india is finding that out now.

Oh!! i guess the poor India can't do anything but to cry of jealousy with China's economic growth....so sad to see that behavior......:smokin:

thats what happens when they are born inferior to china.
they wish they were like china, yet they are like africa.

personally i dont even trust the gdp numbers from india, they cook their books to get votes.
 
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indian debt is growing at 10% per year, thats on top of a 70% debt to gdp.

staggering debt.

indian growth is already collapsing all due to debt, they want to cut back on deficits, but they dont understand that without them going into debt, they cannot grow.

as all ponzi schemes, they all collapse, india is finding that out now.

we will not let debt go over 60%. we have maintained that for a very long time. one bad year doesnt mean anything. plzz check our past history. we want to maintain 8% growth for a very very long time.

cchina set a growth target of 8.5% from 2000 to 2011. but in 2012 it suddenly changed to 7.5 what happened dragon loosing its fire..
 
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we will not let debt go over 60%. we have maintained that for a very long time. one bad year doesnt mean anything. plzz check our past history. we want to maintain 8% growth for a very very long time.

cchina set a growth target of 8.5% from 2000 to 2011. but in 2012 it suddenly changed to 7.5 what happened dragon loosing its fire..

:rofl:

indian growth is collapsing, the ponzi scheme is starting to unravel.
 
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