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China's 2014 Growth Rate and Future Growth Trend

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I have seen an article at Chinadaily today. 7 economists are answering the same 4 questions about China. Let's discuss them on this forum. That could be a nice discussion.

Q1 : Given the third-quarter figures, do you think Chinese economy can grow by 7.5 percent this year? If yes, why? If not, is it a big problem?

Q2 : Should China lower it's GDP target next year? What is the appropriate rate?

Q3 : There is no doubt that China is slowing. Will the slowdown do more good than harm to the country in the long run? Why?

Q4 : What are the benefits and drawbacks of China's slowdown? How can China reduce or avoid damage?

My answers.

Q1 : The problem is not about the growth rate within reach per se. Of course it's within reach. The actual matter is does the government really wants it? In my opinion China can easily get back to it's 8+% growth rate but this will be the thing that damages the economy. Chinese economy is facing environmental pressure. High quality growth is the keyword of Xi-Li administration. That's why while being in reach China might or might not push for 7.5%. Since the target was "about 7.5%", my prediction about overall 2014 growth is 7.4%.

Q2 : Appropriate rate can be determine by employment. 10 million new jobs a year is a good target. Above 7% growth should create that many new jobs.

Q3 : R&D driven, Greener, better wealth distributed 7% growth is much more welcome than inefficient 8% growth. Numbers doesn't matter as long as you create a good civilization. Previous growth is not sustainable for China, new growth trends are. That's why it's actually doing more good.

Q4 : As long as Chinese government can create welfare for it's people, I guess people don't make 7% or 8% growth. Employment and welfare that's what people want, and that's how you can avoid the damage.
 
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tens of millions people became multi-millionaire in last decade, but i would rather to see hundreds of millions to become up-middle class in next decade

middle class is the main driving force of any developed economies
 
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I have seen an article at Chinadaily today. 7 economists are answering the same 4 questions about China. Let's discuss them on this forum. That could be a nice discussion.

Q1 : Given the third-quarter figures, do you think Chinese economy can grow by 7.5 percent this year? If yes, why? If not, is it a big problem?

Q2 : Should China lower it's GDP target next year? What is the appropriate rate?

Q3 : There is no doubt that China is slowing. Will the slowdown do more good than harm to the country in the long run? Why?

Q4 : What are the benefits and drawbacks of China's slowdown? How can China reduce or avoid damage?

My answers.

Q1 : The problem is not about the growth rate within reach per se. Of course it's within reach. The actual matter is does the government really wants it? In my opinion China can easily get back to it's 8+% growth rate but this will be the thing that damages the economy. Chinese economy is facing environmental pressure. High quality growth is the keyword of Xi-Li administration. That's why while being in reach China might or might not push for 7.5%. Since the target was "about 7.5%", my prediction about overall 2014 growth is 7.4%.

Q2 : Appropriate rate can be determine by employment. 10 million new jobs a year is a good target. Above 7% growth should create that many new jobs.

Q3 : R&D driven, Greener, better wealth distributed 7% growth is much more welcome than inefficient 8% growth. Numbers doesn't matter as long as you create a good civilization. Previous growth is not sustainable for China, new growth trends are. That's why it's actually doing more good.

Q4 : As long as Chinese government can create welfare for it's people, I guess people don't make 7% or 8% growth. Employment and welfare that's what people want, and that's how you can avoid the damage.

GDP growth rate is not very important
if the quality is OK, then RMB will be more valuable and thus the exchange rate will rise and China's GDP per capita and average wages in dollars will still rise quickly
 
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GDP growth rate is not very important
if the quality is OK, then RMB will be more valuable and thus the exchange rate will rise and China's GDP per capita and average wages in dollars will still rise quickly
Real growth rate is important . What you're stating doesn't make sense. A strong rise in rmb will hurt export, right now China still rely on export.. Domestic consumption --soon.
 
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I think the slow down is very overrated. When India was growing at 6-7%, the western media was saying India was having an economic miracle.

When China grows at 7.5%, the western media is saying China is facing a economic crisis.

Truth is China is still adding 1 trillion a year to the economy.

From Wikipedia.

2014
The IMF also predicted for the end of the year 2014 released in the October 2014 edition of the World Economic Outlook Databases (WEO). Since the list is preliminary as 2014 is not finished, only countries with GDP over 2 trillion dollars are listed.

Rank Country 2014 GDP (Nominal)
(Billions of US$) % of Global GDP (Nominal)
- European Union $18,399
1
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United States
$17,416
2
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China
$10,355
3
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Japan
$4,770
4
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Germany
$3,820
5
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France
$2,902
6
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United Kingdom
$2,848
7
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Brazil
$2,244
8
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Italy
$2,129
9
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Russia
$2,057
10
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India
$2,048
 

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7.5% or 7.1% might be important to the stock market punters, but not the China, PBOC has ample reserves to prop up the economy if it wants to. Quality growth is what Li Keqiang is looking for: more jobs, higher income, better standard of living. RMB may go higher, impact on export will somewhat be offset by the appreciation of USD once Fed hike rate in 2015.
 
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3% is a good number for China! <-- Everyone know I'm trolling for saying this.

So does 7%!


A lot of people here are heavily brainwashed.
 
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china will slow down in future and its obvious... nothing wrong...
china has managed to make big... now its time to consolidate....
make economy.from export oriented to home consumption oriented... that will help...
currency rmb is highly undervalued by ccp... once ur economy start depending on home masses... u dont hv to fear for it... and u can boost ur currency...
 
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Every country has theirown way to do gdp survey.
In Chinese ,it's mainly from the big company(Many people are tax-dodger,especially the store and restaurant) and industry.
In USA,maybe more from tertiary industry and virtual economy.
In a word,it seems that China is underestimate like the pollution in our glorious democratic India.
And now,I get 50cent.~That's kuma kuma good.
 
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