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China Would Gain Swift Air Superiority Over Taiwan, US Leaks Show

This is complete delusion/copium. China has far exceeded Russia in defense capabilities, case in point the J-20 far exceeds any Russian aircraft, China is moving towards mass production of the WS-15 while we still see no update on the izdeliye 30, not to mention the amount of warships that China is building is exceeding the pace with with even the US military is commissioning ships(the Chinese are still behind on tonnage and number of ships for now, but the level of production is impressive). Only a fool thinks of China as incapable, or as a state that cannot engineer high tech equipment. Your assessment of China is frankly 30 years behind. China started out reverse engineering the Su-27s and derivatives, but its gotten to the point where the avionics on the Chinese flankers exceed Russian equipment, to the point where there is serious debate with the collapse of the Russian defense with the embargoes and lack of funds whether they may end up buying subsystems and other equipment from the Chinese.

The only area China is behind is Navy aviation. China has similar number of submarines and ships as the USA. The amount of destroyers, frigates, corvettes built since 2000 is unbelievable (165). Regarding aircraft carriers they don't need them as Taiwan is close to the mainland. China is waiting till everything is in place, then they will concentrate on navy aviation. Once J35 is ready, they will mass produce it, among other navy aircrafts.
 
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Why would the US need to do espionage on the Chinese jet? to learn how to make inferior engines? lol
Lol, thats only your opinion that J 20 being an inferior jet and Americans dont see the value in getting the secrets.
 
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"AIr superiority" is a delicate strategy, apparently, because if you deploy or show or maintain it at the wrong times or/and for the wrong or irrelevant reasons in a conflict, you will lose that war- Look at US military in Iraq and Afghanistan- US Air force had "100% confident air superiority" in those theaters....and then lost both wars.

Russia could've gotten air superiority if it really wanted to, but it played it smartly. lets just leave that there.
Those wars were lost because a modern 1st world military relies totally on tech. When u fight an enemy with no tech and human ingenuity and pure will to win you will always lose.
Vietnam Korea Iraq Afghanistan are just some of the examples
 
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Ideas worth reminding...

Air Dominance. The ability of an air force to compel other air forces to re-array themselves and usually into subordinate postures.​
Air Superiority. The ability of an air force to achieve control of contested airspace, repeat if necessary, and if there are losses, those losses would not pose a statistical deterrence to that ability.​
Air Supremacy. He flies, he dies.​

All of Taiwan will become contested airspace, that is a given. The problem for the PLAAF is that statistical deterrence. For any standard four-ship sortie, all Taiwanese defense has to do is destroy just one.


Flying as two-ships and four-ships presented one of the true lessons of Desert Storm — pairing up your teams.​
The four-ship meant we could fly any mission — Offensive Counter Air [OCA] and Defensive Counter Air [DCA]...​
We “sorted” the target group in F-15 standard procedure, which means the flight lead takes the enemy leader, the number two takes the northern contact and I took the southern guy, while the number four pilot searched around us [for any other contacts].​
...we had near-perfect radar synchronization in the four-ship for sorting and targeting the MiGs.​

The PLAAF will follow combat proven tactics. They have nothing else to go by. The four-ship formation allows the flight the flexibility to focus their attacks, especially against ground targets. The ROCAF and the Americans knows this. As long as Taiwanese defense, air and ground, can exact that 1 kill out of 4 attackers, the PLAAF will not have air superiority.
 
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Thats some of Westerners claim, but no evidence its a copycat of F 35. Just becos they look similar on the outside, then must one copied or reverse engineered the other. I dont think US tech secrets are that easy to get.
Hi,

Really---. You must be living somewhere different---.

Must not have heard about the most recent leak---?
 
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"AIr superiority" is a delicate strategy, apparently, because if you deploy or show or maintain it at the wrong times or/and for the wrong or irrelevant reasons in a conflict, you will lose that war- Look at US military in Iraq and Afghanistan- US Air force had "100% confident air superiority" in those theaters....and then lost both wars.

Russia could've gotten air superiority if it really wanted to, but it played it smartly. lets just leave that there.

If defeat = defeating opposing forces in any environment, overthrowing a regime, and occupying a country through the years? Then yes, US lost both wars. If getting humiliated by a foreign occupying power in this manner is your definition of victory, then it is.

I am not sure how Iraq won the war from any perspective.
I am not sure how Al-Qaeda Network won the war from any perspective.

Name one Islamic country that has achieved the same in modern battlefields.
 
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China Would Gain Swift Air Superiority Over Taiwan, US Leaks Show

By AFP - Agence France Presse
April 15, 2023

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China would probably gain air superiority very quickly in any attack on Taiwan, something Russia crucially failed to do in its invasion of Ukraine last year, leaked US intelligence documents show, according to media reports Saturday.

The classified documents, allegedly leaked by a US national guardsman in the worst US security breach in a decade, reveal that Taiwan's military leaders doubt their air defenses can "accurately detect missile launches," while only about half of their aircraft are capable of effectively engaging the enemy.

China views democratic, self-ruled Taiwan as part of its territory to be retaken one day, by force if necessary. The island lives under the constant fear of a Chinese invasion, and Beijing has stepped up its rhetoric and military activity around it in recent years.

The intelligence reports said that Taiwan fears it could take up to a week to move its aircraft to shelters, leaving them vulnerable to Chinese missile strikes.

In addition, China's use of civilian shipping, including passenger ferries, for military purposes has hampered the US intelligence community's ability to predict when an invasion might be pending, the Washington Post reported.

The Pentagon criticized Taiwan's missile drills as too highly scripted, which could leave their armed forces and leadership unprepared for a "real-world event," the Post said.

President Xi Jinping has undertaken a huge overhaul of China's army to expand and modernize it. The People's Liberation Army is estimated to be 14 times the size of Taiwan's own armed forces.

Taiwan's defense ministry told the Post that its response to recent Chinese shows of force in the vicinity demonstrate that its military is "absolutely capable, determined and confident" it can defend the island.

Last week, Taiwan staged large-scale emergency response drills enacting a wide array of scenarios, including attacks by missiles and chemical weapons.

The drills came just days after China held its latest military exercise around the island, just 100 miles (160 kilometers) off the coast of the Chinese mainland.
Chinese jets and warships continued circling Taiwan even after the conclusion of the massive drills.

Taiwan's defense ministry detected seven Chinese naval vessels and 26 aircraft between Wednesday and Thursday morning.

It said 14 aircraft had crossed the unofficial median line that separates the island from mainland China.

On a visit to Beijing Friday, Germany's Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock warned that "a military escalation in the Taiwan Strait... would be a horror scenario for the entire world."



Leaked on purpose ?
 
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Look at US military in Iraq and Afghanistan- US Air force had "100% confident air superiority" in those theaters....and then lost both wars.

Russia could've gotten air superiority if it really wanted to, but it played it smartly. lets just leave that there.
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They killed obver 6 million muslims in these two counbtries---decimated the nation of iraq and walked away with no harm done to themselves---.

Seems like you have very little understanding of modern warfare---.
 
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They would say that it copied the number 35.
USA and West have brainwashed their public so much that they started giving laughing reactions and trolling even if you post a screw made in China on social media.
In the J-35 case, they think it is a copy of US jets because
1- it is a jet
2- It has engines
3- It has wings
4- It has a cockpit
5- It has stabilizers
6- It is made of metal and composites
7- It flies
8- It is bla bla bla
9- It has been named J-35
 
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Wouldn't be surprised. Not only do Chinese out number Taiwanese by 70 to 1, Chinese have much better jets J-20 compared to F-16.
 
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