China warns U.S. surveillance plane

[Economic superpower]

Before we built islands, there would be no warning.

Now we have islands, we warn.

Soon we will have airbases with fighter jets and missiles, then it's target practice.

If you bring recon aircraft, we will escort and do dangerous maneuvers.

If you bring armed aircraft, the moment you enter 12 nautical miles it's goodnight.

You know the game changes in our favor when our airbase is operational, yet you are too cowardly to stop us from construction. Just make a show for media like an Indian while China changes facts on the ground.

Quoted for truth.

China is building islands located smack dab in the middle of international strategic shippings lanes, and the best the US can do is complain and fly some patrol planes? Weak.

Totally agree.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Challenged what? That you are a dickhead? Until your planes drop bombs on our islands you've challenged nothing. Just like the AIIB disaster, the dickheads in Washington are making another stupid move.

(Slow clap)... yea, very mature, looking at your @sses really is a challenge.
Grow up.

Easy now, the US and Philippines have a mutual agreement to conduct Ariel surveillance using Filipino bases. The US has done surveillance runs over the South China Sea for the past few decades. The South China sea is international waters and airspace. So...

It's China that is attempting to use it's new found wealth and politics to cement it's claim over disputed zones. The East China Sea Ariel Identification Zone comes into question, combine that with the threat that any airline that doesn't recognize the zone will be prohibited from conducting business in China. Ariel Identification Zones usually aren't extended over disputed territory. Usually countries that don't want to make a big deal out of it, make it unofficial with Air Controllers making contact with any plane in he zone and asking for identification, but China made it official pissing off S. Korea & Japan, which all have disputes against each other but never made official Ariel Identification Zones in their disputed areas.

 

[feilong]

U.S. need to bite China d!ck off hard now, they ain't gonna stop the construction. Spying cannot do sh!t, it look like US is flying around the China build island to begging for the Chinese to stop. " I begging you Chinese SCS island to stop construction, US is world top gun and supa powa". China laughing out loud, what will you do next.

 

[Kylin]

Easy now, the US and Philippines have a mutual agreement to conduct Ariel surveillance using Filipino bases. The US has done surveillance runs over the South China Sea for the past few decades. The South China sea is international waters and airspace. So...

It's China that is attempting to use it's new found wealth and politics to cement it's claim over disputed zones. The East China Sea Ariel Identification Zone comes into question, combine that with the threat that any airline that doesn't recognize the zone will be prohibited from conducting business in China. Ariel Identification Zones usually aren't extended over disputed territory. Usually countries that don't want to make a big deal out of it, make it unofficial with Air Controllers making contact with any plane in he zone and asking for identification, but China made it official pissing off S. Korea & Japan, which all have disputes against each other but never made official Ariel Identification Zones in their disputed areas.

See here is what I have problem with, yes, China is attempting to use it's new found wealth and politics to cement its claim over disputed zones. But not only China was the original and only country made such claim, China is the late comer of such business, Vietnam, Malaysia even Philippines has been doing that for a while, you don't see US prompting negative publicity against these country.

Also, have you see Japan's AIDZ, doesn't it cover the disputed island of Diaoyu? I don't see you having a problem with that.

Double standard much?

 

[TaiShang]

Beijing sets out its rights after reports of incursion
By LI XIAOKUN (China Daily) 09:14, May 22, 2015

A formation of the Nanhai Fleet of China's Navy finished a three-day patrol of the Nansha islands in the South China Sea. [Photo/Xinhua]

China asserted its right to monitor airspace and waters near its islands in the South ChinaSea on Thursday in response to reports of an exchange between the Chinese navy and a US surveillance plane.

The remarks came after a CNN news crew on board a US air force P8-A Poseidon surveillance plane reported it witnessed an incident on Wednesday in which the Chinese navy warned the plane to leave the area eight times as it flew over a Chinese island.

It said the US crew responded that they were flying through international airspace, to which the Chinese dispatcher answered: "This is the Chinese navy. We urge you to leave."

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said he was not aware of the incident, but reiterated Beijing's indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and surrounding waters.

"China has the right to monitor the relevant airspace and waters to protect the country's security and prevent accidents at sea," he added.

He urged other countries to "abandon actions that may complicate and exaggeratecontroversies".

Yin Zhuo, a senior expert on the Chinese navy, said the US armed forces always cite "freedom of navigation" when intruding into other countries' waters and airspace.

Hong commented on remarks by US Deputy Secretary of State Antony Blinken about China's land reclamation operations on its islands in the South China Sea, saying the work is in line with China's sovereignty and aims to provide a civilian service that will benefit other countries.

Blinken said on Wednesday that the work risks provoking tension that could lead to conflict.

Hong urged the US to abide by the principle of not taking sides over the South China Sea,and said its groundless remarks will "encourage repeated provocations from certain nations".

Also on Thursday, Shen Jinke, a spokesman for the People's Liberation Army air force, saidthe aviation division has for the first time flown across the Miyako Strait, the open seabetween Japan's Miyako and Okinawa islands, for deep-sea training in the West Pacific.

Shen said the move is intended to improve the division's combat capability.

He said the training zone is in international airspace at altitudes not used by civil aviation, and the exercise abides by international practices. The training was planned previously and is not targeted at any country.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

Also, have you see Japan's AIDZ, doesn't it cover the disputed island of Diaoyu? I don't see you having a problem with that.

Double standard much?

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The Japanese AIDZ covers their EEZ.

Look Europeans got together, started wars over who should get the last piece of strawberry pie, and the victor took the spoils. Sure the Chinese used the islands a navigational landmarks, administrative controls came under Japan. The US took it after the Surrender of Japan, and returned it soon after.

These islands are claimed by China, Taiwan, and Japan. China offered Taiwan to help each other exert more political pressure on Japan to recognize that the islands were Chinese, better dispute among brothers than some neighbor.

Deng Xiaoping, "It does not matter if this question is shelved for some time, say, 10 years. Our generation is not wise enough to find common language on this question. Our next generation will certainly be wiser. They will certainly find a solution acceptable to all."

 

[kawaraj]

Easy now, the US and Philippines have a mutual agreement to conduct Ariel surveillance using Filipino bases. The US has done surveillance runs over the South China Sea for the past few decades. The South China sea is international waters and airspace. So...

It's China that is attempting to use it's new found wealth and politics to cement it's claim over disputed zones. The East China Sea Ariel Identification Zone comes into question, combine that with the threat that any airline that doesn't recognize the zone will be prohibited from conducting business in China. Ariel Identification Zones usually aren't extended over disputed territory. Usually countries that don't want to make a big deal out of it, make it unofficial with Air Controllers making contact with any plane in he zone and asking for identification, but China made it official pissing off S. Korea & Japan, which all have disputes against each other but never made official Ariel Identification Zones in their disputed areas.

So it's not the U.S. use its wealth and politics to flying over our Asian land?

Who give you the privilege to command here, this is not the colonial world, let alone your drones are taking lives of innocent people in our northern provinces. Your country is evil.

 

[Kylin]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Japanese AIDZ covers their EEZ.

Look Europeans got together, started wars over who should get the last piece of strawberry pie, and the victor took the spoils. Sure the Chinese used the islands a navigational landmarks, administrative controls came under Japan. The US took it after the Surrender of Japan, and returned it soon after.

These islands are claimed by China, Taiwan, and Japan. China offered Taiwan to help each other exert more political pressure on Japan to recognize that the islands were Chinese, better dispute among brothers than some neighbor.

So? Ariel Identification Zones usually aren't extended over disputed territory. I am just following your logic that criticizes China for an AIDZ and your reasoning was because it is disputed. Now comes to Japan, so what their AIDZ covers their EEZ, Diaoyu is under dispute, then by your logic Japan shouldn't set up an AIDZ that covers Diaoyu. Still, your excuse does not justify the blatant double standard.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

So? Ariel Identification Zones usually aren't extended over disputed territory. I am just following your logic that criticizes China for an AIDZ and your reasoning was because it is disputed. Now comes to Japan, so what their AIDZ covers their EEZ, Diaoyu is under dispute, then by your logic Japan shouldn't set up an AIDZ that covers Diaoyu. Still, your excuse does not justify the blatant double standard.

Sometimes the answer is quite simple. And simple answers ares usually controversial.

By logic Japan shouldn't set up an AIDZ over their EEZ if it is over disputed territory. But then, only China and Taiwan are disputing it. That too against Japan which is allied with the US.

So that's your answer.

EEZ's can go out to 200NM from the State's coastline. That said, if an EEZ overlaps with another state's EEZ the overlap is divided.

The only reason China wants the Islands isn't for the extra 1 square km of land, but the clear access to the Pacific. That applies to the Spratly Islands.

This is the same reason Japan claimed ownership back in the day.

 

[Aepsilons]

Sometimes the answer is quite simple. And simple answers ares usually controversial.

By logic Japan shouldn't set up an AIDZ over their EEZ if it is over disputed territory. But then, only China and Taiwan are disputing it. That too against Japan which is allied with the US.

So that's your answer.

EEZ's can go out to 200NM from the State's coastline. That said, if an EEZ overlaps with another state's EEZ the overlap is divided.

The only reason China wants the Islands isn't for the extra 1 square km of land, but the clear access to the Pacific. That applies to the Spratly Islands.

This is the same reason Japan claimed ownership back in the day.

A better view of Japan's Maritime Territory.