China warns Obama against meeting Dalai Lama

[bomberman]

China warns Obama against meeting Dalai Lama

BEIJING: China on Tuesday warned US President Barack Obama against meeting the Dalai Lama, saying it would "seriously undermine" Sino-US ties --the latest salvo in an escalating row between the two powers.

Beijing also said no progress was made in the latest round of talks between Chinese officials and envoys of the Buddhist monk, saying the two sides remain "sharply divided" on the future of the Himalayan region.

The comments came after the first negotiations between the two sides in more than a year, which wrapped up at the weekend. The envoys of the Dalai Lama returned to their exile base in India on Monday.

The exiled monk, whom China accuses of seeking independence for his homeland, is due in the United States this month for a visit that includes a stop in Washington, but a meeting with Obama has not been announced.

Such a meeting would "seriously undermine the political foundation of Sino-US relations," Zhu Weiqun, executive vice minister of the Communist Party body that handles contact with the Dalai Lama, told a news conference.

"If the US leader chooses to meet with the Dalai Lama at this time, it will certainly threaten trust and cooperation between China and the United States," Zhu said.

"We oppose any attempt by foreign forces to interfere in China's internal affairs using the Dalai Lama as an excuse," he added.

The warning added to mounting tensions between Washington and Beijing, with relations already badly strained over US arms sales to Taiwan, Google's threat to leave China, and a host of trade and currency disputes.

Obama was roundly criticised at home for avoiding a meeting with the Dalai Lama ahead of the US leader's maiden trip to China in November.

Illustrating the divide over Tibet, Zhu blasted the monk as a "separatist" and "troublemaker" bent on inciting world hatred of China over its control of his mountainous homeland.

The Dalai Lama rejects such charges, saying he seeks only greater autonomy for Tibet under Chinese rule. He has warned Tibetan culture is in danger of being extinguished.

Zhu indicated the secretive talks between China and the Dalai Lama's envoys -- the ninth round since the dialogue began in 2002 -- made no progress.

"As in previous rounds of negotiations, the positions of the two sides are sharply divided," said Zhu of the Communist Party's United Front Work Department.

Zhu said the Tibetan side stuck to a memorandum it submitted during the last round in November 2008 that insisted their autonomy demands were in line with China's constitution, but slammed the document as an "independence" ploy.

He said the talks could not move forward if the Dalai Lama "continues to devote himself to anti-China propaganda and sabotage on the international stage."

The Tibetan envoys, who flew to China on January 25, held meetings with Chinese officials first in the central province of Hunan and then in Beijing at the weekend, the Dalai Lama's senior secretary Chhime Chhoekyapa told AFP.

The Dalai Lama, 75, fled his homeland after a failed uprising in 1959 against Chinese rule. That came nine years after Chinese troops were sent to take control of the region.

Since the 2008 round of talks, China has maintained a tough crackdown in Tibet launched following a wave of anti-Chinese unrest that erupted in March of that year and which Beijing blamed on the Dalai Lama.

Several people have reportedly been executed for their roles in the violence, and earlier this month China named a military veteran, Padma Choling, as Tibet's new governor.

Zhu said another round of talks "depends on the Dalai Lama."

Source:China warns Obama against meeting Dalai Lama - China - World - The Times of India

 

[albwd]

If he insists to see a fully autonomous Tibet ruled by Dalai Lama's pre him in a fewdal style which pays homeage to the "middle kingdom" which in return promised for military support, he is dreaming. (Tibet, Korea pennusular, Vietnam, Buhtan, Sikim were all part of China proper).

And we are more willing to receive this Lama as son of Tibet which we couldn't challenge, rather than son of India, which, ouch, it just plainly sucks.

 

[bomberman]

If he insists to see a fully autonomous Tibet ruled by Dalai Lama's pre him in a fewdal style which pays homeage to the "middle kingdom" which in return promised for military support, he is dreaming. (Tibet, Korea pennusular, Vietnam, Buhtan, Sikim were all part of China proper).

And we are more willing to receive this Lama as son of Tibet which we couldn't challenge, rather than son of India, which, ouch, it just plainly sucks.

You Chinese claim whole neighbours as your integral part ... i think this wont happen!! and plz stop day dreaming...

 

[foxbat]

China warns Obama against meeting Dalai Lama

BEIJING: China on Tuesday warned US President Barack Obama against meeting the Dalai Lama, saying it would "seriously undermine" Sino-US ties --the latest salvo in an escalating row between the two powers.

Beijing also said no progress was made in the latest round of talks between Chinese officials and envoys of the Buddhist monk, saying the two sides remain "sharply divided" on the future of the Himalayan region.

The comments came after the first negotiations between the two sides in more than a year, which wrapped up at the weekend. The envoys of the Dalai Lama returned to their exile base in India on Monday.

The exiled monk, whom China accuses of seeking independence for his homeland, is due in the United States this month for a visit that includes a stop in Washington, but a meeting with Obama has not been announced.

Such a meeting would "seriously undermine the political foundation of Sino-US relations," Zhu Weiqun, executive vice minister of the Communist Party body that handles contact with the Dalai Lama, told a news conference.

"If the US leader chooses to meet with the Dalai Lama at this time, it will certainly threaten trust and cooperation between China and the United States," Zhu said.

"We oppose any attempt by foreign forces to interfere in China's internal affairs using the Dalai Lama as an excuse," he added.

The warning added to mounting tensions between Washington and Beijing, with relations already badly strained over US arms sales to Taiwan, Google's threat to leave China, and a host of trade and currency disputes.

Obama was roundly criticised at home for avoiding a meeting with the Dalai Lama ahead of the US leader's maiden trip to China in November.

Illustrating the divide over Tibet, Zhu blasted the monk as a "separatist" and "troublemaker" bent on inciting world hatred of China over its control of his mountainous homeland.

The Dalai Lama rejects such charges, saying he seeks only greater autonomy for Tibet under Chinese rule. He has warned Tibetan culture is in danger of being extinguished.

Zhu indicated the secretive talks between China and the Dalai Lama's envoys -- the ninth round since the dialogue began in 2002 -- made no progress.

"As in previous rounds of negotiations, the positions of the two sides are sharply divided," said Zhu of the Communist Party's United Front Work Department.

Zhu said the Tibetan side stuck to a memorandum it submitted during the last round in November 2008 that insisted their autonomy demands were in line with China's constitution, but slammed the document as an "independence" ploy.

He said the talks could not move forward if the Dalai Lama "continues to devote himself to anti-China propaganda and sabotage on the international stage."

The Tibetan envoys, who flew to China on January 25, held meetings with Chinese officials first in the central province of Hunan and then in Beijing at the weekend, the Dalai Lama's senior secretary Chhime Chhoekyapa told AFP.

The Dalai Lama, 75, fled his homeland after a failed uprising in 1959 against Chinese rule. That came nine years after Chinese troops were sent to take control of the region.

Since the 2008 round of talks, China has maintained a tough crackdown in Tibet launched following a wave of anti-Chinese unrest that erupted in March of that year and which Beijing blamed on the Dalai Lama.

Several people have reportedly been executed for their roles in the violence, and earlier this month China named a military veteran, Padma Choling, as Tibet's new governor.

Zhu said another round of talks "depends on the Dalai Lama."

Source:China warns Obama against meeting Dalai Lama - China - World - The Times of India

I guess China just ensured that Obama will now meet DL otherwise it will look as if China scared US.

After the meeting, they will be able to use this to put US on defensive in the next US - China negotiations...

 

[xdrive]

China warns every world leader over meeting the Dalai Lama. It's weird how China thinks it can dictate who world leaders meet lol.

 

[albwd]

You Chinese claim whole neighbours as your integral part ... i think this wont happen!! and plz stop day dreaming...

If you could be not just so jumpy. My comment above also included a clue as to why we went into the Korean war. In our weakest episode in our history when a defenseless Korea was been invaded by the Japanese, one of our Emperor's son did lead an infantry into Korea to "fulfill" our promises (But he ran back into Chinese terriotry in a couple of days by going 240 miles, not too bad. )

We always have special feelings to there areas, not that we are claiming their land, as a matter fact, we never. But since the british expansion and the foundings of PRC, Tibet is critical to our security, its a topic off-limit to any discussions.

You have to remember in the much darker ages, we never send in our sodiers to rape their women, claim their land, and drag them back as slaves.

It's interesting to point out about Koreans, We don't believe we won many(if any) in conflicts, after we send an army to that pennusular even defeated, the strategic goals is attained, they will watch in awe and in total shock and start to behave, even they were militarily victorious.

Rumors has it that when the first South Korean landed in beijing international airport after we normalized our relation with the south, when he saw the red flag in the airport, he was like knee jerking.

 

[graphican]

Let it be USA, India or China itself, Somebody gona hurt real bad!

 

[bomberman]

If you could be not just so jumpy. My comment above also included a clue as to why we went into the Korean war. In our weakest episode in our history when a defenseless Korea was been invaded by the Japanese, one of our Emperor's son did lead an infantry into Korea to "fulfill" our promises (But he ran back into Chinese terriotry in a couple of days by going 240 miles, not too bad. )

We always have special feelings to there areas, not that we are claiming their land, as a matter fact, we never. But since the british expansion and the foundings of PRC, Tibet is critical to our security, its a topic off-limit to any discussions.

You have to remember in the much darker ages, we never send in our sodiers to rape their women, claim their land, and drag them back as slaves.

It's interesting to point out about Koreans, We don't believe we won many(if any) in conflicts, after we send an army to that pennusular even defeated, the strategic goals is attained, they will watch in awe and in total shock and start to behave, even they were militarily victorious.

Rumors has it that when the first South Korean landed in beijing international airport after we normalized our relation with the south, when he saw the red flag in the airport, he was like knee jerking.

Dont cry baby,



above image is the teritory of RAJA RAJA CHOLAN from india.. we too had territories on east can we claim that now or threaten them to surrender as you behave rubbish to taiwan,tibet, sikkim.....etc?

 

[albwd]

Dont cry baby,



above image is the teritory of RAJA RAJA CHOLAN from india.. we too had territories on east can we claim that now or threaten them to surrender as you behave rubbish to taiwan,tibet, sikkim.....etc?

No, I won't make a typical Indian's mistake by arguing with another Indian all day lonng. Because if I do, I get nothing done.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

Dont cry baby,



above image is the teritory of RAJA RAJA CHOLAN from india.. we too had territories on east can we claim that now or threaten them to surrender as you behave rubbish to taiwan,tibet, sikkim.....etc?

There's an important difference: Korea was born from China, their ancestors WERE chinese.

Now contrast that with what you are claiming: Those were only areas of RELIGIOUS influence on NATIVE MONGOLOIDS!!!

So going by your logic, since the Mongols conquered Iran, Afghan, Pak, and much of India today --- and being the blood brothers and inheritors of Ghenghis Khan's empire, we also CLAIM INDIA proper!

Also, I wonder if there's any relation to the name Khan in Pak and NW India, is it related to the supreme ruler Ghenghis Khan by any chance???

 

[albwd]

There's an important difference: Korea was born from China, their ancestors WERE chinese.

Now contrast that with what you are claiming: Those were only areas of RELIGIOUS influence on NATIVE MONGOLOIDS!!!

So going by your logic, since the Mongols conquered Iran, Afghan, Pak, and much of India today --- and being the blood brothers and inheritors of Ghenghis Khan's empire, we also CLAIM INDIA proper!

Also, I wonder if there's any relation to the name Khan in Pak and NW India, is it related to the supreme ruler Ghenghis Khan by any chance???

In the "past", the boundary was defined around cultural influence. So my question is, Indians believe they are "new", so what's their cultural influence?

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

In the "past", the boundary was defined around cultural influence. So my question is, Indians believe they are "new", so what's their cultural influence?

True, but keep in mind the Indians only had influence for a BRIEF moment in history.

Let's move on to now. Right NOW, the illegal occupation of the NE is being HEAVILY RESISTED by HUNDREDS of armed groups (and their people supporters!). That's the reality right now. Speaking with someone who is very familiar and intimate with SE Asia (ASEAN), I can tell you who they align (and identify) with ===> Chinese, not Indians.

 

[ek_indian]

Basically this thread is not related to India. This is more about diplomatic fight between China and USA.
I assume USA president will be visiting DL if this was scheduled. However by this exercise, China will achieve its objective for sending necessary signals.

However some members are proposing "Akhand China" as well...

 

[bomberman]

If you could be not just so jumpy. My comment above also included a clue as to why we went into the Korean war. In our weakest episode in our history when a defenseless Korea was been invaded by the Japanese, one of our Emperor's son did lead an infantry into Korea to "fulfill" our promises (But he ran back into Chinese terriotry in a couple of days by going 240 miles, not too bad
We always have special feelings to there areas, not that we are claiming their land, as a matter fact, we never. But since the british expansion and the foundings of PRC, Tibet is critical to our security, its a topic off-limit to any discussions.

You have to remember in the much darker ages, we never send in our sodiers to rape their women, claim their land, and drag them back as slaves.

It's interesting to point out about Koreans, We don't believe we won many(if any) in conflicts, after we send an army to that pennusular even defeated, the strategic goals is attained, they will watch in awe and in total shock and start to behave, even they were militarily victorious.

Rumors has it that when the first South Korean landed in beijing international airport after we normalized our relation with the south, when he saw the red flag in the airport, he was like knee jerking.

There's an important difference: Korea was born from China, their ancestors WERE chinese.

Now contrast that with what you are claiming: Those were only areas of RELIGIOUS influence on NATIVE MONGOLOIDS!!!

So going by your logic, since the Mongols conquered Iran, Afghan, Pak, and much of India today --- and being the blood brothers and inheritors of Ghenghis Khan's empire, we also CLAIM INDIA proper!

Also, I wonder if there's any relation to the name Khan in Pak and NW India, is it related to the supreme ruler Ghenghis Khan by any chance???

Ghenghis Khan's empire

U can claim this whole milky way no universe

keep claiming

 

[DaRk WaVe]

hey wait even i ve got a claim

Cheen o Arab Humra Hindustan humra
Muslman ha hum sara Jahan humara

(China & Arabia is ours, India is ours
We are Muslims whole world is ours)