China warmly welcomes Pakistans desire to be full member in SCO.

[Gryphon]

August 27, 2013

China Tuesday said it warmly welcomes Pakistan's desire to become full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

"China warmly welcomes this and we will work with other countries to actively promote such request"‚ the Vice-Foreign Minister Cheng Guoping said while replying to a question at a press conference here.

The press conference was also addressed by Vice Foreign Minister Li Baodong‚ Vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao and Deputy Governor Yi Gang of People's Bank of China to brief the media on President Xi Jinping's State visits from Sept 3 to 13 to Turkmenistan‚ Kazakhstan‚ Uzbekistan‚ Kyrgyzstan and his attendance at the G20 St. Petersburg Summit and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's Bishkek Summit.

Minister Cheng said China will continue holding discussion on the formal documents accepting new members.

He said because they have to go through some procedures therefore‚ they are still working on this document.

To become a full member state of the SCO is required consensus of all the existing members states‚ he said adding therefore‚ in terms of expanding the membership of the SCO it will still take sometime.

The 13th Meeting of the Council of Heads of Member States of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is slated for September 13 in Bishkek‚ the capital of Kyrgyzstan.

As Chinese President‚ Xi Jingpin will for the first time attend the summit at the invitation of Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambaev.

He will also hold talks with various leaders on the sidelines of the meeting.

Founded in June 2001‚ the SCO's member states consist of China‚ Russia‚ Kazakhstan‚ Kyrgyzstan‚ Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Pakistan‚ India‚ Iran‚ Mongolia and Afghanistan have observer status in the organization.

The G20‚ established in September 1999‚ brings together 20 major economies of the world‚ including 19 countries and the European Union.

China warmly welcomes Pakistan’s desire to be full member in SCO

 

[Menace2Society]

I asked about SCO a couple of weeks ago on here.

Similar statements have been released acknowledging our wish to join SCO for years.

What are the actual timelines?

If we can achieve membership without India's inclusion, this will be a watershed geopolitical maneuver in the region thus its importance.

 

[Genesis]

I asked about SCO a couple of weeks ago on here.

Similar statements have been released acknowledging our wish to join SCO for years.

What are the actual timelines?

If we can achieve membership without India's inclusion, this will be a watershed geopolitical maneuver in the region thus its importance.

India is not going to be part of this, can't see why they want to. China pakistan can be good friends, for a large part due to no conflict of interests. I'm not talking border issues, that's minor compare to other things.

I think with the relationship of Pakistan with China and the other states, it's inclusion is a mere formality, as is stated in the article.

The delay I don't think has so much to do with Pakistan as it does with the group and the "chaotic" nature of it all.

 

[Pak47]

Lol, check out the comments on the page.

 

[Menace2Society]

India is not going to be part of this, can't see why they want to. China pakistan can be good friends, for a large part due to no conflict of interests. I'm not talking border issues, that's minor compare to other things.

I think with the relationship of Pakistan with China and the other states, it's inclusion is a mere formality, as is stated in the article.

The delay I don't think has so much to do with Pakistan as it does with the group and the "chaotic" nature of it all.

I am under the impression Pakistans inclusion depends on its relations with India and vice versa. So both have to be at peace and then both will be given membership at the same time.

Or is this not the case?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

It should be noted, that contrary to the view that a lot of people have, the SCO is not a military alliance.

It is a "Mutual security organization" that primarily deals with Energy security and Border security in the Central Asian Region.

There is no reason why Pakistan and India cannot both be included in the same time. As long as India does not have "ulterior motives" to create roadblocks for this organization, like with SAARC.

 

[Menace2Society]

It should be noted, that contrary to the view that a lot of people have, the SCO is not a military alliance.

It is a "Mutual security organization" that primarily deals with Energy security and Border security in the Central Asian Region.

There is no reason why Pakistan and India cannot both be included in the same time. As long as India does not have "ulterior motives" to create roadblocks for this organization, like with SAARC.

My reading suggests it may transition into a NATO like bloc in the future.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

My reading suggests it may transition into a NATO like bloc in the future.

That seems unlikely, considering that Pakistan is currently a major non-NATO ally of America, and the American military is currently occupying a country in the region.

But if Pakistan blocks the USA off completely, they won't be able to access Afghanistan, since Afghanistan is completely land-locked. In that case, American military presence would no longer be viable in the region, and what you suggested may become possible.

 

[Enemy]

It should be noted, that contrary to the view that a lot of people have, the SCO is not a military alliance.

It is a "Mutual security organization" that primarily deals with Energy security and Border security in the Central Asian Region.

There is no reason why Pakistan and India cannot both be included in the same time. As long as India does not have "ulterior motives" to create roadblocks for this organization, like with SAARC.

India is not in Central Asia, India is in South Asia. See the Map. Pakistan may be the last frontier of Central Asia going by geography if not culture. So the inclusion of Pakistan is understandable but why India if the SCO is all about Central Asia?

By the way, according to Shalini Sharan of the Geo-strategic and military related think tank Center for Strategic and International Studies:

Seeking to balance the growing Chinese and Pakistani influence, and promoting stabilization of Afghanistan, India has a great interest in the Central Asian states. However, the strategic importance of Central Asia has not been exploited fully. If India is indeed looking for a strategic depth in its immediate neighborhood, Central Asia is where it should be looking.

Central Asia: India


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[BDforever]

August 27, 2013

China Tuesday said it warmly welcomes Pakistan's desire to become full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

"China warmly welcomes this and we will work with other countries to actively promote such request"‚ the Vice-Foreign Minister Cheng Guoping said while replying to a question at a press conference here.

The press conference was also addressed by Vice Foreign Minister Li Baodong‚ Vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao and Deputy Governor Yi Gang of People's Bank of China to brief the media on President Xi Jinping's State visits from Sept 3 to 13 to Turkmenistan‚ Kazakhstan‚ Uzbekistan‚ Kyrgyzstan and his attendance at the G20 St. Petersburg Summit and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's Bishkek Summit.

Minister Cheng said China will continue holding discussion on the formal documents accepting new members.

He said because they have to go through some procedures therefore‚ they are still working on this document.

To become a full member state of the SCO is required consensus of all the existing members states‚ he said adding therefore‚ in terms of expanding the membership of the SCO it will still take sometime.

The 13th Meeting of the Council of Heads of Member States of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) is slated for September 13 in Bishkek‚ the capital of Kyrgyzstan.

As Chinese President‚ Xi Jingpin will for the first time attend the summit at the invitation of Kyrgyz President Almazbek Atambaev.

He will also hold talks with various leaders on the sidelines of the meeting.

Founded in June 2001‚ the SCO's member states consist of China‚ Russia‚ Kazakhstan‚ Kyrgyzstan‚ Tajikistan and Uzbekistan.

Pakistan‚ India‚ Iran‚ Mongolia and Afghanistan have observer status in the organization.

The G20‚ established in September 1999‚ brings together 20 major economies of the world‚ including 19 countries and the European Union.

China warmly welcomes Pakistan’s desire to be full member in SCO

Bangladesh also expressed interest to join in SCO this year

 

[Menace2Society]

That seems unlikely, considering that Pakistan is currently a major non-NATO ally of America, and the American military is currently occupying a country in the region.

But if Pakistan blocks the USA off completely, they won't be able to access Afghanistan, since Afghanistan is completely land-locked. In that case, American military presence would no longer be viable in the region, and what you suggested may become possible.

NATO will be long gone after 2014, it is pretty evident they are incapable of steering the region towards peace.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

NATO will be long gone after 2014, it is pretty evident they are incapable of steering the region towards peace.

Will Pakistan still be a major American ally after that? And will they still allow transit of American military personnel and hardware into Afghanistan after that point?

If the alliance between USA-Pakistan is not broken, then it is not conceivable for the SCO to turn into a military alliance like NATO.

 

[Menace2Society]

Will Pakistan still be a major American ally after that? And will they still allow transit of American military personnel and hardware into Afghanistan after that point?

If the alliance between USA-Pakistan is not broken, then it is not conceivable for the SCO to turn into a military alliance like NATO.

Apart from the Cold War, I don't think Pakistan has ever been fully allied with US.

At moment its a relationship born out of necessity in dealing with Afghanistan but aside from that we don't really have much in common.

A normal trade and economic based relationship we do have, and so should everyone have with everyone else in the world.

 

[Kompromat]

@Chinese-Dragon

MNNA status is just a lip service.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

@Chinese-Dragon

MNNA status is just a lip service.

Possibly so, but if you include the fact that India won't go against the USA, then the chances of the SCO becoming a NATO-like military alliance goes down to nearly zero.