CHINA WANTS TO QUESTION AGNI-V LAUNCH AT UN SECURITY COUNCIL

[AyanRay]

but still according to MTCR, India can produce all those technologies used in subsonic cruise missile because their scientist even after failures told media about their great technologies. And because Pakistani scientists never talked about babur technology even after successful test, according to MTCR we don't have subsonic cruise missile technology, not even turbofan engine.

I went through this post like 4 times, still unable to make any sense out of it.

 

[GORKHALI]

Here What India Did In UN to china:........................................................ _I_ _I__I__I__I__I__I__I__I__I__I_

 

[Riz]

Is this a joke?

Do they want to troll in UN also like they give loud mouth warnings to all nations ?

Maintaining peace and balance in Asia is prime important than maintaining peace and balance in South Asia.

OK then let Bangladesh have access nuclear arms and missile technology for peace and balance in south Asia ..u think only u Hindus smart in south Asia ?

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Babur is nothing but Chinese HN-1B.
It uses a Ukrainian made RD-95-300 twin spool turbonfan.

Actually whenever Pakistan test any arm. Indians start to find comparable chinese system to blame Pakistani technology a copy without any proof.
Whenever indians test any arm.Indians start to find the world best technology and compare it with it to prove it is more better than the best.

I salute indians for their great comparing abilities even when they know that Babur is an improved copy of US Tomhawk missile.

Babur is nothing but Chinese HN-1B.
It uses a Ukrainian made RD-95-300 twin spool turbonfan.

Originally Posted by http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news245.html
Pakistanis Say They Are Studying U.S. Missile
Tomahawk Reportedly Was Recovered After Raid on Camps in Afghanistan

By Kamran Khan
Special to The Washington Post
Friday, August 28, 1998

KARACHI, Pakistan, Aug. 27—Pakistani scientists and weapons experts are studying components salvaged from an American cruise missile that landed last week in southern Pakistan, security sources said today. They expressed optimism that they could unlock technological secrets that will advance Pakistan's missile program.

Officials said experts associated with Pakistan's civilian and military missile programs were inspecting the guidance system, onboard computer and propulsion system of the Tomahawk missile, which was fired Aug. 20 in the U.S. attack on camps in Afghanistan but apparently fell short of its target.

Some sources indicated that information obtained by examining the missile might be shared with China, Pakistan's ally, but officials refused to comment on that possibility.

A Pakistani official speaking on condition of anonymity said the find was "a jackpot" that included the satellite global positioning system and other technological improvements made to Tomahawks since the 1991 Persian Gulf War. "We have missile experts who would most certainly demonstrate a remarkable job of reverse engineering" and develop technological know-how that Pakistan lacks, the official said.

Pakistan reported earlier this week that it had recovered the missile Saturday near Kharan, about 370 miles south of the targeted camps in Afghanistan. Pentagon officials have declined to confirm that a missile landed in Pakistan or to comment on the implications for Pakistan and China which hope to acquire cruise missiles.

The Pakistani sources noted with some surprise that the missile was largely intact when it was discovered. Sources in Washington said the Tomahawk might not have detonated because the arming mechanism is not activated until minutes before the missile reaches its target.

Retired Lt. Gen. Thomas G. McInerney said he doubted the Pakistani claims. When cruise missiles crash, he said, "its like dropping a Waterford crystal glass. They are designed to do a lot of things, but they aren't designed to bounce. They are very fragile." What did not break apart on impact would probably have been burned by the missile's fuel which would ignite on impact, he said.

U.S. defense officials also scoffed at the notion that the Pakistanis had gained an intelligence windfall, suggesting that the Tomahawk's technology already is widely available and noting that the loss of several such missiles during the Persian Gulf War is not known to have produced any breakthroughs for Iraq.

But a ranking security official in Islamabad, the Pakistani capital, pointed out that restrictions on technological transfers between the United States and Pakistan have been in effect for nearly a decade. Since 1990, when Washington cut military aid because it believed Pakistan had developed a nuclear bomb, information that the Pentagon might readily provide to another nation would have been harder to come by here, he said.

"It is a gift from the God," the official said. "The country that had denied us all sorts of economic and military assistance has suddenly gifted us the weapon of choice from its arsenal."

He voiced a note of caution, however, saying: "This will definitely enhance our knowledge about the latest missile technology, but how much -- it is too early to predict."

Other sources also acknowledged that they were unlikely to extract enough information from the Tomahawk components to be able to reproduce such a missile. They said, however, that their need for the kind of advanced weaponry found in U.S. arsenals is limited, and that they would be happy for even limited gains in missile technology.

"Pakistan is not the global player," one official said, adding that its defense needs are geared more toward dealing with "its arch-rival that lives next door."

Tensions between Pakistan and neighboring India, with which it has fought three wars in the last 51 years, have been high since both nations tested nuclear devices in May. While their nuclear programs have been the focus of world attention since the tests, the rivals' competition to develop more advanced, longer-range missiles has been almost as intense.

Officials declined to comment on whether Pakistan might share any discoveries with China, a close ally that the United States has repeatedly accused of helping Pakistan with its missile program.

Gen. Jehangir Karamat, the Pakistani army's chief of staff who heads the joint chiefs of staff, is currently touring China. A senior official at army headquarters said today that Karamat has been briefed on the initial reports from Pakistani scientists on the Tomahawk missile. "In view of extremely close ties between the two military services," the official said, he would be surprised if the findings were not discussed with Chinese officials.

U.S. government and private cruise missile experts said that while an intact Tomahawk would be of limited benefit to the Pakistanis, it could be of significant help to the more advanced Chinese military.

Of most immediate concern, said K. Scott McMahon, a national security expert with Pacific-Sierra Research Corp., an Arlington-based defense consultant firm, would be the ability of the Chinese to incorporate the missile's radar image into the air defense systems it sells to such nations as Albania, Iran, North Korea and Pakistan. "It would enable the Chinese to enhance their air defense system against what is arguably the most serious missile threat out there," he said. "The air defense implications for the Chinese are something we have to be seriously concerned about."

Experts said the Chinese have the technological know-how to study and to eventually copy the missile's guidance system, which matches photographic images of a target and surrounding terrain against the actual terrain it flies over. It also incorporates a satellite-based global positioning system.

The Chinese also could gain useful knowledge from studying the missile's airframe material, electronics, warhead and turbo-fan engine, experts said.

Staff writers Dana Priest and Bradley Graham in Washington contributed to this report.

© Copyright 1998 The Washington Post Company

I went through this post like 4 times, still unable to make any sense out of it.

i also went even more times on this topic where some indian was trying to prove that Pakistan produce 0% components of babur.

 

[Paranoid Android]

Actually whenever Pakistan test any arm. Indians start to find comparable chinese system to blame Pakistani technology a copy without any proof.

Here the reason..

Who Created Pakistan’s Nuclear Arsenal?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jamyang-norbu/who-created-pakistans-nuc_b_864124.html
“China, a staunch ally of Pakistan’s, provided blueprints for the bomb, as well as highly enriched uranium, tritium, scientists and key components for a nuclear weapons production complex, among other crucial tools. ‘Without China’s help, Pakistan’s bomb would not exist’ said Gary Milhollin, a leading expert on the spread of nuclear weapons.”

 

[Indian_gorkha]

Here is the actual statement:


http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/xwfw_665399/s2510_665401/t1427046.shtml

They should stop their jahil reporters who write shit stories like in Global times and other CCP mouth pieces before they want sensible reporting from the other side.

 

[Indian_gorkha]

OK then let Bangladesh have access nuclear arms and missile technology for peace and balance in south Asia ..u think only u Hindus smart in south Asia ?

Do it then. Develop nukes. Who is stopping you. The truth is the window to have nukes was closed a long ago. Nobody claimed we Hindus are smart from where did you pulled out religion.

Do you know that our IGMDP was directed by Late ex president Abdul kalam. He is revered and adored for his commitment and dedication towards his county. Stop pulling religion out of your *** everytime. It stinks.

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Reason for Pakistan to acquire such a tech for peaceful purpose.

 

[Ajaxpaul]

Will the chinese sanction India ?

What does a chinese sanction be like ?

 

[Sanchez]

It‘s all indian hype！Expect another 1962 incidence！

 

[Quibbler]

Its actually good. Such naive move has no chance of passing through if not vetoed by atleast 3 members. It will increase legitmacy of India nuclear ambitions and mark the arrival of India on a global stage. Moreover, it will allow India to further gain leverage against china by opening china's pandora box of nuclear program with rogues states like Pakistan on the same platform. Obviously India doesnt have the hard power to strongly enforce any decision. But these small leverages can quickly add up to form a major irritant.

 

[Basel]

India has the right to develop a whole spectrum of ballistic missiles for its defense, be they nuclear-enabled or not. India has two hostile neighbors on its borders and must act accordingly. Let China raise the issue at UNSC, why will India care?

By you logic every country who has enemies have right to built any kind of weapon system, then why cry against North Korea and Iran and similar countries?? They also have similar right.

 

[Kinetic]

Burning arse!!! Agni hit Indian ocean and fires coming out of beijing. hahaha

By you logic every country who has enemies have right to built any kind of weapon system, then why cry against North Korea and Iran and similar countries?? They also have similar right.

They are not responsible powers, they do not have stable regimes.

Will the chinese sanction India ?

What does a chinese sanction be like ?

More crying hahahaha... sanction and china hahah... its better pakistan sanctions India.

 

[deckingraj]

By you logic every country who has enemies have right to built any kind of weapon system, then why cry against North Korea and Iran and similar countries?? They also have similar right.

Yes they have the right...however other countries also have the right to protect their interests...in simple words right is not = power to do so...

 

[Indika]

India is a member of MTCR, in coming years missiles will become more refined with western tech. Chinese idea of counterbalancing India with pakistan is falling apart. They simply ended up antagonizing India to develop longer range missiles. With addition of SSBN's it will make things more scarier.