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Santa Rita, Guam (Oct. 22, 2003) — The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) guided missile destroyer Shenzhen (DDG-167) enters Apra Harbor, Guam.
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Santa Rita, Guam (Oct. 22, 2003) -- The guided missile cruiser USS Chancellorsville (CG 62) leads the People’s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) guided missile destroyer Shenzhen (DDG 167) into Apra Harbor, Guam.
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Why don't you sail your great navy to the great Mongolia?:lol::lol::lol: Great Mongolian navy invite yours!
 
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still waiting for this :D

Beijing will be barred from its South China Sea fortresses, says incoming US Secretary of state Rex Tillerson
January 13, 2017 8:28am

“We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that first the island-building stops and second your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed,” he said.
 
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Can we get within 12k without telling US too?:pop:
Just as much as you can drive through a city and ignore traffic rules completely.

Triton Island
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Guam Island
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At a regular State Department briefing in Washington Thursday, spokesman Mark Toner said: ‘This is certainly the first time we have observed Chinese navy ships in the Bering Sea, but that said, we do certainly respect the freedom of all nations to operate military vessels in international waters in accordance with international law.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Alaska-coast-Obama-visit.html#ixzz4lqJ5vjpd
Does that sound like they announced themselves in advance?

Stop whining.

What was the purpose of US sending an armada near DPRK some time ago? Ohh just to show off but too chicken to attack :lol:
Why attack when showing the flag suffices? Paraphrased from some famous Chinese person, who wrote a lot about war in all its aspects.

Why don't you sail your great navy to the great Mongolia?:lol::lol::lol: Great Mongolian navy invite yours!
My great navy consists of 4 6k ton frigates, 2 3.5k ton frigates, 4 3.75kton OPVs, 2 LPDs and 1 big joint support ship. And 4 fairly big submarines.
You obviously have no idea whom you're talking about/to.
 
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Just as much as you can drive through a city and ignore traffic rules completely.

Triton Island
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Guam Island
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At a regular State Department briefing in Washington Thursday, spokesman Mark Toner said: ‘This is certainly the first time we have observed Chinese navy ships in the Bering Sea, but that said, we do certainly respect the freedom of all nations to operate military vessels in international waters in accordance with international law.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...s-Alaska-coast-Obama-visit.html#ixzz4lqJ5vjpd
Does that sound like they announced themselves in advance?

Stop whining.


Why attack when showing the flag suffices? Paraphrased from some famous Chinese person, who wrote a lot about war in all its aspects.


My great navy consists of 4 6k ton frigates, 2 3.5k ton frigates, 4 3.75kton OPVs, 2 LPDs and 1 big joint support ship. And 4 fairly big submarines.
You obviously have no idea whom you're talking about/to.

Ok, well, you needn't have replied the post, that just's joking.
 
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President Donald Trump, who campaigned on a get-tough-with-China economic message, had suggested publicly that he might offer better terms to Beijing in his promised renegotiation of U.S.-China trade policy if it could successfully tamp down North Korea’s nuclear program. | AP Photo

In tweet, Trump criticizes China for trading with North Korea
By LOUIS NELSON

07/05/2017 08:15 AM EDT

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On his way to Europe to attend meetings with G20 world leaders this week, President Donald Trump lashed out at China Wednesday morning for its trade relationship with North Korea.

“Trade between China and North Korea grew almost 40% in the first quarter. So much for China working with us - but we had to give it a try!” Trump wrote on Twitter, the second in a two-post flurry.


“The United States made some of the worst Trade Deals in world history. Why should we continue these deals with countries that do not help us?” Trump wrote minutes earlier, an apparent reference to China’s inability or unwillingness to cooperate with the U.S. on corralling North Korea.

Presented in his administration’s opening weeks with a fresh wave of bellicose rhetoric from the repressive regime of North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un, Trump announced that he would seek China’s help in tightening the screws on Pyongyang in order to curb its nuclear ambitions. China, responsible for almost all of North Korea’s foreign trade and its chief international patron, is uniquely positioned to exert influence on the Kim regime.

Trump, who campaigned on a get-tough-with-China economic message, had suggested publicly that he might offer better terms to Beijing in his promised renegotiation of U.S.-China trade policy if it could successfully tamp down North Korea’s nuclear program. After months of promising to immediately label China a currency manipulator upon taking office, Trump opted against doing so, instead taking a wait-and-see approach to seek the Chinese government’s cooperation.

But North Korea’s behavior, which included the nation’s first-ever test of an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday, has not shifted dramatically since Trump’s inauguration. And while Trump administration officials have suggested that Trump has not given up on working with China, the president himself has seemed to say as much in posts to his Twitter account.

“While I greatly appreciate the efforts of President Xi & China to help with North Korea, it has not worked out. At least I know China tried!” Trump wrote online last month.

:rolleyes: :crazy:
He thinks that owns whole the world, dumb head
 
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Why attack when showing the flag suffices? Paraphrased from some famous Chinese person, who wrote a lot about war in all its aspects.
If showing the flag suffice it would have stopped DPRK launching missiles after missiles and now they demonstrated an IRBM to show US a middle finger. Got guts to attack Iraq under false pretense of WMD, well the world already knows our neighbor's nuclear tests are not fake so what does the US do? Keep begging China to help with the issue instead of ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK :rofl:
 
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Two U.S bombers have flown over the disputed South China Sea, the U.S. Air Force said on Friday, asserting the right to treat the region as international territory despite China's claim to virtually all of the waterway.

The flight by the B-1B Lancer bombers from Guam on Thursday came as U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping prepare for a meeting on the sidelines of a G20 summit in Germany.

The two leaders were expected to discuss what China can do to rein in North Korea's missile and nuclear weapon programs.

North Korea fired an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday that some experts believe has the range to reach Alaska and Hawaii and perhaps the U.S. Pacific Northwest.

While Trump has been seeking China's help to press North Korea, the U.S. military has, nevertheless, been asserting its "freedom of navigation" rights in the South China Sea, at the risk of angering China.

Asked about the flight by the two U.S. bombers, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said there was no problem with freedom of navigation or overflight for the East and South China Seas.

"But China resolutely opposes individual countries using the banner of freedom of navigation and overflight to flaunt military force and harm China's sovereignty and security," he said.

China's Defence Ministry, in a short statement sent to Reuters, said China always maintained its vigilance and "effectively monitors relevant countries' military activities next to China".

"The Chinese military will resolutely safeguard national sovereignty and security as well as regional peace and stability," it added, without elaborating.

The United States has criticized China's build-up of military facilities on South China Sea reefs and tiny islands it has constructed, concerned that they could be used to extend its strategic reach.

Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also have claims in the sea, through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes each year.

The two Lancers that made the flight had earlier trained with Japanese jet fighters in the neighboring East China Sea, the first time the two forces had conducted joint night-time drills.

Two U.S. Lancers flew from Guam over the South China Sea last month, while a U.S. warship carried out a maneuvering drill within 12 nautical miles of one of China's artificial islands in the waterway in late May.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-southchinasea-idUSKBN19S0IU
 
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Two U.S bombers have flown over the disputed South China Sea, the U.S. Air Force said on Friday, asserting the right to treat the region as international territory despite China's claim to virtually all of the waterway.

The flight by the B-1B Lancer bombers from Guam on Thursday came as U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping prepare for a meeting on the sidelines of a G20 summit in Germany.

The two leaders were expected to discuss what China can do to rein in North Korea's missile and nuclear weapon programs.

North Korea fired an intercontinental ballistic missile on Tuesday that some experts believe has the range to reach Alaska and Hawaii and perhaps the U.S. Pacific Northwest.

While Trump has been seeking China's help to press North Korea, the U.S. military has, nevertheless, been asserting its "freedom of navigation" rights in the South China Sea, at the risk of angering China.

Asked about the flight by the two U.S. bombers, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said there was no problem with freedom of navigation or overflight for the East and South China Seas.

"But China resolutely opposes individual countries using the banner of freedom of navigation and overflight to flaunt military force and harm China's sovereignty and security," he said.

China's Defence Ministry, in a short statement sent to Reuters, said China always maintained its vigilance and "effectively monitors relevant countries' military activities next to China".

"The Chinese military will resolutely safeguard national sovereignty and security as well as regional peace and stability," it added, without elaborating.

The United States has criticized China's build-up of military facilities on South China Sea reefs and tiny islands it has constructed, concerned that they could be used to extend its strategic reach.

Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan also have claims in the sea, through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes each year.

The two Lancers that made the flight had earlier trained with Japanese jet fighters in the neighboring East China Sea, the first time the two forces had conducted joint night-time drills.

Two U.S. Lancers flew from Guam over the South China Sea last month, while a U.S. warship carried out a maneuvering drill within 12 nautical miles of one of China's artificial islands in the waterway in late May.

I think the whole world has called the China's bluff. It would be interesting to see if they act on their threat. Though I think it highly unlikely.
 
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and then...?

the world still waiting for this :D
Beijing will be barred from its South China Sea fortresses, says incoming US Secretary of state Rex Tillerson
January 13, 2017 8:28am

“We’re going to have to send China a clear signal that first the island-building stops and second your access to those islands is also not going to be allowed,” he said.
 
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I have a foto too, yours is not special at all, sorry off topic. You have oil, just try best to consume it 7/11 / 365, remember being off our territory.
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Jehan Li and Mia Qi took advantage of a U.S. law, nicknamed the “golden visa,” that offers green cards to foreigners who invest $500,000 in the United States. They say they want to give their son, Oscar, a shot at a brighter future.


BEIJING — Their son was barely a year old when Jehan Li and Mia Qi plunked down a half-million dollars for the boy to have a shot at a brighter future in America — away from the grinding competition of a Chinese education and this city’s smog-choked air.

Last December, having made just a single visit to the United States on their honeymoon, the Chinese couple took advantage of a U.S. law, nicknamed the “golden visa,” that doles out green cards to foreigners who invest $500,000 in the United States.

Critics say the fast track to citizenship favors the ultra-rich. It is also emerging as one of the most attainable paths to U.S. residency for members of China’s growing professional class — and now it could disappear.

The nearly three-decade-old program has come under new scrutiny in recent months, in part because of a sales pitch to Chinese investors by White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s family real estate business.

Congress and the Trump administration are considering changing the rules for the investor visas as a means of cracking down on money laundering and visa-for-sale fraud. Potential changes, such as raising the investment threshold, would have little impact on China’s wealthiest. But they could shut out families such as Li and Qi, who despite riding the curve of upward socioeconomic mobility in China still see the United States as their best opportunity and this visa program as their best option.

The debate over the investor visas raises basic questions about the purpose of U.S. visa policies. Some say this program should be eliminated in favor of other immigrant groups, such as high-skilled workers or refugees escaping persecution — and not let people buy their way into the United States. Others say those with substantial amounts of money are best positioned to boost the American economy, by investing their wealth and creating jobs.

“Are we looking for the people? Or are we looking for the money?” said William Cook, former general counsel of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service under President George H.W. Bush when Congress created the EB-5 visa program.

“In the end, the simple truth is the government is looking for the money. And that may unfortunately exclude people who can no longer afford it, even if they may be the best people in the world.”

During his lunch break at a Pizza Hut in one of Beijing’s ubiquitous shopping malls, Li, a 38-year-old civil engineer, explained the draw of the EB-5 investor visas for upwardly mobile Chinese without vast inherited fortunes.

“There are a lot of ways to immigrate to America, but this EB-5 program is the easiest,” said Li, who invested in a Miami residential skyscraper under construction.

The only requirement is cash. Unlike other immigration visas, one does not need to have relatives in the United States or have any extraordinary ability, educational degree or professional achievement.

“There are a lot of ways to immigrate to America, but this EB-5 program is the easiest,” said Li, who invested in a Miami residential skyscraper under construction.

The only requirement is cash. Unlike other immigration visas, one does not need to have relatives in the United States or have any extraordinary ability, educational degree or professional achievement.

The EB-5 program became attractive to U.S. real estate developers after the 2008 financial crisis as a reliable source of cheap capital when bank loans were difficult to come by. The developers pay low annual interest on investments from EB-5 visa holders, typically just 4 to 8 percent compared with 12 to 18 percent for conventional financing. After authorities confirm that the money has created at least 10 American jobs, a visa holder will be eligible for permanent residency — and to recoup his or her investment.

“It is good to own some U.S. dollars as the U.S. economy recovers from the financial crisis,” Li said.

Far from being scions of China’s ruling class, Li and his wife, a customer service representative at a Beijing real estate company, earn about $100,000 a year. That is well above average for Beijing but not in the ranks of the wealthiest elites.

They were able to scrounge up the $500,000 by selling a four-bedroom house on the outskirts of Beijing that Li’s parents had helped him buy a decade ago. (It is common in China for parents to help their children, especially sons, buy homes.)

The family of three rents a modest, two-bedroom high-rise apartment in a middle-class compound in the southwestern part of China’s sprawling capital city. Although homeownership is prized among Chinese as a secure financial investment, Li and Qi said they view renting as a sacrifice for the sake of their son, Oscar.

The couple, who married in 2014, said they committed to immigrating during their 10-day honeymoon in California, where they soaked up the grandeur of Yosemite National Park, visited the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and even checked out the University of California at Los Angeles.

“We went to America to vacation with the purpose of understanding the country,” said Li, whose notions about the United States came only from movies and television news. “The values of independence, equality, freedom and democracy have attracted me deeply. I was already hoping to raise our child there.”

Qi, also 38, said they knew then that they needed to find a way for their future child to study in America.

Chasing the American Dream
Of the 8,500 EB-5 visas issued in 2016, 82 percent went to investors from mainland China, according to the State Department. A decade ago, Chinese nationals accounted for just 12 percent of such visas.

Chinese immigration brokers say upper-middle-class investors have flocked to the program in recent years as their incomes increased and their real estate appreciated.

But that route to the United States may soon close for families such as Li and Qi.

Congressional authorization for the EB-5 visa expires in September, and lawmakers, as well as the Department of Homeland Security, are weighing new rules that could raise investment requirements from $500,000 to as much as $1.35 million.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who assailed the investor visa as “citizenship for sale” to the wealthiest bidders, has introduced a bill with Sen. Charles E. Grassley (R-Iowa) to scrap the program.

Legislators who have long agitated for change were further riled in May after one of Kushner’s sisters pitched a New Jersey luxury apartment project managed by the family’s real estate company to potential Chinese investors in Beijing.

Such sales presentations by U.S. developers seeking to woo Chinese investors are common, immigration brokers say. But the Kushner Companies event drew criticism for attempting to cash in on Kushner’s White House connections. One speaker advised those in attendance to invest early — under the “old rules” requiring $500,000 — in case regulations change under President Trump, Kushner’s father-in-law.

Michael Short, a White House spokesman, told The Washington Post that the Trump administration is “evaluating wholesale change of the EB-5 program,” including “exploring the possibility of raising the price of the visa.”

The uncertainty has prompted a scramble among some Chinese investors, said Jerry Liu, an immigration consultant in Beijing.

“Right now, the market is really hot, and more people can afford it because of China’s growing economy,” Liu said. “Everyone in China has the American Dream.”

Because of a cap on the number of visas by nationality, Chinese applicants must wait seven to 10 years from the time they invest to when they secure green cards, Liu said. The program has a big backlog; until 2015, the wait time was five years.

That has prompted parents, worried about their children turning 21 and aging out of the visa program before their green cards are approved, to start applying years before their children reach high school.

About a third of Chinese applicants are even applying in their teenage children’s names, anticipating that their green cards would not be available until they are adults and can move to the United States on their own, said Ronnie Fieldstone, a Miami attorney representing developers and Chinese immigration agents involved in EB-5 projects.

Li and Qi are relieved to have gotten in line before the United States changes the investment rules.

The Miami development they invested in is slated to be finished in early 2019, according to Paramount Miami Worldcenter, the developer. Construction is complete for 12 of its 60 stories. More than 60 percent of the luxury condominium’s 500 units have sold.

Once the U.S. government approves the family’s petition, they will receive two-year conditional green cards.

The couple have already researched housing and schools in Los Angeles, where they hope to settle. And they are exposing Oscar, 21 months old, to English through nursery songs. He is learning the alphabet and likes to sing a counting song about catching fish.

“We hope to be in America,” Qi said, “by the time our son finishes elementary school.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...4576dc0f39d_story.html?utm_term=.040ee7f66e03
 
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