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China has more value to the USA than Tibetan cause. Time to move on than getting stuck in history.

Trump is the best thing that has happened to the USA in a long long time.
 
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China has more value to the USA than Tibetan cause. Time to move on than getting stuck in history.

Trump is the best thing that has happened to the USA in a long long time.
That's true, by engaging in Tibet, US had long been fighting a battle that it can never win, a hell waste of borrowed money.
 
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An extract from Michael Parenti's article on truth of Tibetan Slaves etc. This one is not a CIA propanganda widely spread in the West.

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

But what of Tibetan Buddhism? Is it not an exception to this sort of strife? And what of the society it helped to create? Many Buddhists maintain that, before the Chinese crackdown in 1959, old Tibet was a spiritually oriented kingdom free from the egotistical lifestyles, empty materialism, and corrupting vices that beset modern industrialized society. Western news media, travel books, novels, and Hollywood films have portrayed the Tibetan theocracy as a veritable Shangri-La. The Dalai Lama himself stated that “the pervasive influence of Buddhism” in Tibet, “amid the wide open spaces of an unspoiled environment resulted in a society dedicated to peace and harmony. We enjoyed freedom and contentment.” 4

A reading of Tibet’s history suggests a somewhat different picture. “Religious conflict was commonplace in old Tibet,” writes one western Buddhist practitioner. “History belies the Shangri-La image of Tibetan lamas and their followers living together in mutual tolerance and nonviolent goodwill. Indeed, the situation was quite different. Old Tibet was much more like Europe during the religious wars of the Counterreformation.” 5 In the thirteenth century, Emperor Kublai Khan created the first Grand Lama, who was to preside over all the other lamas as might a pope over his bishops. Several centuries later, the Emperor of China sent an army into Tibet to support the Grand Lama, an ambitious 25-year-old man, who then gave himself the title of Dalai (Ocean) Lama, ruler of all Tibet.

His two previous lama “incarnations” were then retroactively recognized as his predecessors, thereby transforming the 1st Dalai Lama into the 3rd Dalai Lama. This 1st (or 3rd) Dalai Lama seized monasteries that did not belong to his sect, and is believed to have destroyed Buddhist writings that conflicted with his claim to divinity. The Dalai Lama who succeeded him pursued a sybaritic life, enjoying many mistresses, partying with friends, and acting in other ways deemed unfitting for an incarnate deity. For these transgressions he was murdered by his priests. Within 170 years, despite their recognized divine status, five Dalai Lamas were killed by their high priests or other courtiers. 6

For hundreds of years competing Tibetan Buddhist sects engaged in bitterly violent clashes and summary executions. In 1660, the 5th Dalai Lama was faced with a rebellion in Tsang province, the stronghold of the rival Kagyu sect with its high lama known as the Karmapa. The 5th Dalai Lama called for harsh retribution against the rebels, directing the Mongol army to obliterate the male and female lines, and the offspring too “like eggs smashed against rocks…. In short, annihilate any traces of them, even their names.” 7

In 1792, many Kagyu monasteries were confiscated and their monks were forcibly converted to the Gelug sect (the Dalai Lama’s denomination). The Gelug school, known also as the “Yellow Hats,” showed little tolerance or willingness to mix their teachings with other Buddhist sects. In the words of one of their traditional prayers: “Praise to you, violent god of the Yellow Hat teachings/who reduces to particles of dust/ great beings, high officials and ordinary people/ who pollute and corrupt the Gelug doctrine.” 8 An eighteenth-century memoir of a Tibetan general depicts sectarian strife among Buddhists that is as brutal and bloody as any religious conflict might be. 9 This grim history remains largely unvisited by present-day followers of Tibetan Buddhism in the West.

Religions have had a close relationship not only with violence but with economic exploitation. Indeed, it is often the economic exploitation that necessitates the violence. Such was the case with the Tibetan theocracy. Until 1959, when the Dalai Lama last presided over Tibet, most of the arable land was still organized into manorial estates worked by serfs. These estates were owned by two social groups: the rich secular landlords and the rich theocratic lamas. Even a writer sympathetic to the old order allows that “a great deal of real estate belonged to the monasteries, and most of them amassed great riches.” Much of the wealth was accumulated “through active participation in trade, commerce, and money lending.” 10

Drepung monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the world, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. The wealth of the monasteries rested in the hands of small numbers of high-ranking lamas. Most ordinary monks lived modestly and had no direct access to great wealth. The Dalai Lama himself “lived richly in the 1000-room, 14-story Potala Palace.” 11

Secular leaders also did well. A notable example was the commander-in-chief of the Tibetan army, a member of the Dalai Lama’s lay Cabinet, who owned 4,000 square kilometers of land and 3,500 serfs. 12 Old Tibet has been misrepresented by some Western admirers as “a nation that required no police force because its people voluntarily observed the laws of karma.” 13 In fact. it had a professional army, albeit a small one, that served mainly as a gendarmerie for the landlords to keep order, protect their property, and hunt down runaway serfs.

Young Tibetan boys were regularly taken from their peasant families and brought into the monasteries to be trained as monks. Once there, they were bonded for life. Tashì-Tsering, a monk, reports that it was common for peasant children to be sexually mistreated in the monasteries. He himself was a victim of repeated rape, beginning at age nine. 14 The monastic estates also conscripted children for lifelong servitude as domestics, dance performers, and soldiers.

In old Tibet there were small numbers of farmers who subsisted as a kind of free peasantry, and perhaps an additional 10,000 people who composed the “middle-class” families of merchants, shopkeepers, and small traders. Thousands of others were beggars. There also were slaves, usually domestic servants, who owned nothing. Their offspring were born into slavery. 15 The majority of the rural population were serfs. Treated little better than slaves, the serfs went without schooling or medical care, They were under a lifetime bond to work the lord's land--or the monastery’s land--without pay, to repair the lord's houses, transport his crops, and collect his firewood. They were also expected to provide carrying animals and transportation on demand.16 Their masters told them what crops to grow and what animals to raise. They could not get married without the consent of their lord or lama. And they might easily be separated from their families should their owners lease them out to work in a distant location. 17
 
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Overseas Tibetan are mostly former slave owners and upper class trash. They should not be allowed home.
They can suck the blood of those who cherish slavery and caste division.
am eager to know slave owning in tibet
can some chinese start a topic on it
thanks
 
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Tu kya bak raha hain I honestly don't have a clue. Lekin mera flag असली हैं.
Lol. I figured you won't understand

What's my point? They are paid to serve agenda. Trying to compare Pakistan a nation receiving aid vs an individual receiving aid is just like an apple and orange comparison. Pakistan needs to account to its people and the distribution aid is transparent. Did Dalai Lama show you his account how his CIA account distribute?

Dalai Lama is just serving US anti China interest not as such naive freedom campaign fighting as you think. If Dalai need to wipe out his people to serve US master happy. I have no doubt he will do it.
Oh, do let me know where and when Pakistan did account for the money that the CIA has provided it over the years, and I shall buy your argument.
 
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Trump finally realized that China is too tough to be hurt by dogs like dalai. No free bones for useless doges anymore.
Dalai Lama fail to perform and fail to mobilizing masses against China. End result was expected. Tibet was lost cause long ago. It was only alive due to Indian lobby in Washington.
 
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A picture denotes a thousand words. Just google old tibet photo, and find the huge contrast between the rich ruling class/ land owners and the serf and slaves.

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Oh I bet they want to extract some thing from China may be a new trade deal. Tactics of trump administration is quite simple.

First create an uproar saying the treaty is unfair.
Withdraw or threaten to withdraw.
Renegotiate for more benefit.

Simply put it is just plain bluff. If other countries dont yield it will fall flat on their face. Hope China & India do not renegotiate any thing in exchange, should just say take it or leave it.
 
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Lol. I figured you won't understand


Oh, do let me know where and when Pakistan did account for the money that the CIA has provided it over the years, and I shall buy your argument.
Really. Shown me yr Dalai fantastic distribution aid list from CIA. If u don't reply in 24hours ,you lost the arguement and prove you are a idiot and troll making every stupid comment. :lol:

I win and you lose badly:enjoy:
 
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Drepung monastery was one of the biggest landowners in the world, with its 185 manors, 25,000 serfs, 300 great pastures, and 16,000 herdsmen. The wealth of the monasteries rested in the hands of small numbers of high-ranking lamas. Most ordinary monks lived modestly and had no direct access to great wealth. The Dalai Lama himself “lived richly in the 1000-room, 14-story Potala Palace.”

This is like "India 2020" propaganda movie.

Isn't that true cow-protecting beef-banning RSSers and slavery supporters live ethically together to promote these primitive and backward social ethics?

Indeed, otherwise why would they be so yearning for a lifestyle that belongs to pre-modern age? It is like kettle finding its perfect pot and fitting nicely. I guess no body will be weeping over the exodus of slave-owning religious cult class into India. They may come handy for some CIA ops, but, it works in backward societies like India, not in China.
 
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This is like "India 2020" propaganda movie.



Indeed, otherwise why would they be so yearning for a lifestyle that belongs to pre-modern age? It is like kettle finding its perfect pot and fitting nicely. I guess no body will be weeping over the exodus of slave-owning religious cult class into India. They may come handy for some CIA ops, but, it works in backward societies like India, not in China.
CIA,trump people, RSSers and former tibertan slave owners do not fit in this modern world. Maybe they can live together in Supa Powa 2012.
 
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On Jun. 8, two U.S. Air Force B-1B Lancers assigned to the 9th Expeditionary Bomb Squadron, deployed from Dyess Air Force Base, Texas, flew a 10-hour mission from Andersen Air Force Base, Guam, through the South China Sea, and operated with the U.S. Navy’s Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Sterett (DDG 104) “to increase interoperability by refining joint tactics, techniques and procedures while simultaneously strengthening their ability to seamlessly integrate their operations.”

The B-1B Lancers (“Bones” in accordance with the nickname used by their aircrews) have been supporting he U.S. Pacific Command’s (USPACOM) Continuous Bomber Presence mission since Aug. 6, 2016, when the first B-1s, belonging to the 28th Bomb Wing from Ellsworth Air Force Base, South Dakota, deployed to Guam, for the first time in a decade, toreplace the B-52s.

The B-1B had been taken out from the Continuous Bomber Presence (CBP) rotation at Guam’s Andersen Air Force Basebecause they can’t carry any kind of nuclear weapon: the Lancer deployment in the regions brings a conventional heavy bomber within striking distance of the Korean peninsula.

While deterring North Korea out of Guam, the B-1s have also been involved in several regional exercises. For instance, in November 2016, one Lancer carried out close air support training in the vicinity of Australia, a type of mission in which they cooperate with JTACs.

CAS are among the most frequent missions flown by the “Bones” against ISIS during their 6-month deployment in support of Operation Inherent Resolve last year: when they returned stateside in January 2016, the B-1s had flown 490 sorties dropping 3,800 munitions on 3,700 targets.

https://theaviationist.com/2017/06/...-guided-missile-destroyer-in-south-china-sea/

A powerful deterrent. B-1's can carry up to 24 JASSM-ER cruise missiles, and will begin deploying the LRASM anti-ship missile next year.
 
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For LCS case, I think destroyer or ship cruise presence will bring more detterence than bomber. They can bring many cruise missile + anti missile, and stay long nearby the target.
 
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Really. Shown me yr Dalai fantastic distribution aid list from CIA. If u don't reply in 24hours ,you lost the arguement and prove you are a idiot and troll making every stupid comment. :lol:

I win and you lose badly:enjoy:
What exactly do you want me to show? Try and be coherent
 
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