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Well that's just great, didn't some members here claim China is gonna come crashing now that Trump is at the helm?
"China stealing our jobs, will bring them back to USA", "China currency manipulator", "We are gonna slap China with >40% import tax" ... All these campaign promises are totally forgotten? The captain must be experiencing amnesia.
The only promise he hasn't forgotten is shredding the TPP proposal into pieces
"China stealing our jobs, will bring them back to USA", "China currency manipulator", "We are gonna slap China with >40% import tax" ... All these campaign promises are totally forgotten? The captain must be experiencing amnesia.
The only promise he hasn't forgotten is shredding the TPP proposal into pieces
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Good viet wet dreamWell that's just great, didn't some members here claim China is gonna come crashing now that Trump is at helm?
"China stealing our jobs, will bring them back to USA", "China currency manipulator", "We are gonna slap China with >40% import tax" ... All these campaign promises are totally forgotten? The captain must be experiencing amnesia
The only promise he hasn't forgotten is shredding the TPP proposal into pieces
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But Trump is bringing jobs back. Since 2015, Chinese investments in murica created 13000 jobs.Well that's just great, didn't some members here claim China is gonna come crashing now that Trump is at the helm?
"China stealing our jobs, will bring them back to USA", "China currency manipulator", "We are gonna slap China with >40% import tax" ... All these campaign promises are totally forgotten? The captain must be experiencing amnesia.
The only promise he hasn't forgotten is shredding the TPP proposal into pieces
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What do they expect to get? Free lunch for idiotic MAGA?
This is what they get.
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Moscow Inks $400 Billion Deal With China; Washington Gets Awkward Handshake
U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson leaves Beijing with an awkward Facebook photo
Rudy Panko
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Poor Rex.
We have to give credit to Rex Tillerson for at least trying to pretend that Washington has good relations with China.
On Sunday, the U.S. Secretary of State concluded his visit to China. He has returned to Washington with an awkward handshake and a flurry of meaningless formalities:
"You said that China-U.S. relations can only be friendly. I express my appreciation for this," Xi said.
What did Tillerson expect, though?
While it's true that America is still hooked on cheap Chinese products, the reality is that Beijing has made it clear that its security and longterm economic viability will be achieved through close cooperation with Russia and greater Eurasia. The foreign policy geniuses in Washington actually managed to push Russia into China's arms — an accomplishment that we described as the "biggest geopolitical blunder since 1776".
Yes, it's true that Xi told reporters that China is "expecting a new era for constructive development" with Washington. Are we supposed to be impressed by this bland, vanilla statement, though? You can find similar language from joint statements between the Israelis and the Palestinian Authority. But are there any actions to back up the words?
Show us the money. ( @ahojunk )
Regarding "constructive development" with China, Rex could use a few pointers from Putin:
The photographs don't lie. And neither does the $400 billion gas deal. Or the endless list of infrastructure and trade agreements. Or BRICS. Or the fact that Beijing has stated openly that it is "coordinating" its foreign policy with Moscow.
But apparently we're supposed to be impressed by Tillerson bagging some "warm words":
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Lol, after all 'mumbo-jumbo' about China.
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US official: Trump to meet China’s Xi first week in April
Originally published March 28, 2017 at 12:03 pm
Updated March 28, 2017 at 2:12 pm
FILE – In this March 5, 2017 file photo, Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People. A senior State Department official says Chinese President Xi will meet with President Donald Trump the first full week of April. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein, File)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Chinese President Xi Jinping will meet with President Donald Trump the first full week of April, a senior State Department official said Tuesday.
The first in-person encounter between the leaders comes after Trump sharply criticized China during the presidential campaign. But he is now seeking Beijing’s help in pressuring North Korea over its nuclear weapons and missile programs.
Trump and Xi also are likely to discuss the U.S. president’s threats to counter what he claims are unfair Chinese trade practices. Trump has promised to raise import taxes on Chinese goods and declare Beijing a currency manipulator. It’s unclear if Trump will follow on either threat while seeking China’s cooperation on North Korea.
Though the White House hasn’t formally announced Xi’s visit, the leaders are expected to gather at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — where Trump hosted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in February.
The State Department official confirmed the timing of Xi’s trip while discussing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s upcoming travel plans.
Tillerson had planned to skip a meeting of NATO foreign ministers scheduled for April 5-6 so he could attend Xi’s meeting with Trump, the official said. The NATO gathering in Brussels was rescheduled for Friday so Tillerson could attend, said the official, who briefed reporters on a conference call on condition of anonymity even though Trump has criticized media for using anonymous sources.
Under Trump, regular opportunities for journalists to question Tillerson or other State Department officials in public have been significantly curtailed.
The agency held no televised briefings, a State Department mainstay for decades under administrations of both parties, for six weeks after Trump’s inauguration. They resumed in March under a new format: Two televised briefings per week and two over-the-phone briefings.
Now the televised briefings have again been canceled, due to staffing changes. Instead, they’re only holding telephone briefings, restricted to one topic per day as chosen by the State Department.
Those calls are held on “background,” meaning journalists can question senior officials but are prohibited from naming them in any stories, and the State Department has declined requests to conduct the calls on the record.
The State Department has said typical, on-the-record briefings may resume soon.
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-trump-to-meet-chinas-xi-first-week-in-april/
Originally published March 28, 2017 at 12:03 pm
Updated March 28, 2017 at 2:12 pm
FILE – In this March 5, 2017 file photo, Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing’s Great Hall of the People. A senior State Department official says Chinese President Xi will meet with President Donald Trump the first full week of April. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein, File)
WASHINGTON (AP) — Chinese President Xi Jinping will meet with President Donald Trump the first full week of April, a senior State Department official said Tuesday.
The first in-person encounter between the leaders comes after Trump sharply criticized China during the presidential campaign. But he is now seeking Beijing’s help in pressuring North Korea over its nuclear weapons and missile programs.
Trump and Xi also are likely to discuss the U.S. president’s threats to counter what he claims are unfair Chinese trade practices. Trump has promised to raise import taxes on Chinese goods and declare Beijing a currency manipulator. It’s unclear if Trump will follow on either threat while seeking China’s cooperation on North Korea.
Though the White House hasn’t formally announced Xi’s visit, the leaders are expected to gather at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida — where Trump hosted Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in February.
The State Department official confirmed the timing of Xi’s trip while discussing Secretary of State Rex Tillerson’s upcoming travel plans.
Tillerson had planned to skip a meeting of NATO foreign ministers scheduled for April 5-6 so he could attend Xi’s meeting with Trump, the official said. The NATO gathering in Brussels was rescheduled for Friday so Tillerson could attend, said the official, who briefed reporters on a conference call on condition of anonymity even though Trump has criticized media for using anonymous sources.
Under Trump, regular opportunities for journalists to question Tillerson or other State Department officials in public have been significantly curtailed.
The agency held no televised briefings, a State Department mainstay for decades under administrations of both parties, for six weeks after Trump’s inauguration. They resumed in March under a new format: Two televised briefings per week and two over-the-phone briefings.
Now the televised briefings have again been canceled, due to staffing changes. Instead, they’re only holding telephone briefings, restricted to one topic per day as chosen by the State Department.
Those calls are held on “background,” meaning journalists can question senior officials but are prohibited from naming them in any stories, and the State Department has declined requests to conduct the calls on the record.
The State Department has said typical, on-the-record briefings may resume soon.
http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-trump-to-meet-chinas-xi-first-week-in-april/
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US-China economic cooperation is the only way going forward
In spite of President Donald Trump’s anti-China rhetoric during and shortly after he was elected, a more constructive and cooperative US-China relationship will likely emerge after his meeting next week with President Xi Jinping. In addition to Trump’s recent conciliatory letter to Xi followed by a cordial telephone conversation, economic and geopolitical realities demand that the relationship improve.
The world’s second-largest economy is too big to coerce and impossible to contain. China has responded to what it sees as external threats by building islands in the South China Sea and deploying missiles, jet fighters and other military assets on them. In addition, China has increased — and will continue to boost — the number of submarines and surface warships to defend what it sees as US aggression. Its second aircraft carrier is expected to be launched this year. More and bigger destroyers and nuclear submarines are under construction. China is said to be building its first 40,000-ton assault ship, capable of carrying 30 armed helicopters. Even if all of Asia sides with the United States, taking down a country of more than 1.36 billion people armed with conventional and nuclear weapons without sacrificing millions of Asian and American lives is delusional.
The US and Chinese economies are closely intertwined. In spite of relentless China-bashing, two-way trade has jumped from less than US$35 billion in 1990 to almost US$600 billion last year. More than two-third of Chinese exports to the US are produced by American or US-China joint-venture firms. Moreover, the supply chain is deeply interdependent between the two countries. There was practically zero Chinese investment in the US in the 1990s, but that had risen to more than US$100 billion by 2016. US investment in China has also grown from zero in 2000 to US$228 billion by 2016 with American Fortune 500 companies leading the way.
China plays pivotal role in US economic health
China is the top export market and major investor in 33 states, according to Bloomberg. China has played a pivotal role in spurring or sustaining economic growth in California, Washington, Texas, Michigan, and other states. The cities of Chicago, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia recently signed contracts with a Chinese railway company’s US subsidiary to produce hundreds of trains. More will likely follow given America’s degraded infrastructure and Trump’s campaign pledge to rebuild it.
China’s increasingly affluent market explains why more American politicians, business people, tourists, and students travel to China. The growing Chinese economy offers the best opportunity for US enterprises. For example, Boeing has sold more than US$60 billion in aircraft to China since 2000. And states with large agricultural businesses have profited from selling chicken parts, soybeans, and other foodstuffs to China’s growing middle- and upper-middle classes now numbering almost 700 million and increasing.
Indeed, politicians representing export-dependent and investment-hungry states who denounced China have softened their criticism on trade and human-rights issues. Rick Perry, former Texas governor and US presidential hopeful, had accused China of unfair trade practices and human-rights abuses. But he changed his tune last year during a trip to China promoting Texas, calling China a great “friend” of his state. Presidential candidates, from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump, campaigned on get-tough-on-China platforms but made U-turns once in office.
Anti-China rhetoric makes no sense
Their 180-degree policy flip-flop is influenced not only by economic and geopolitical realities but also by nonsensical anti-China rhetoric. China did not “rape” America or “steal” its jobs as Trump and his trade chief, Peter Navarro, claimed. Unskilled or semi-skilled manufacturing jobs were automated. Indeed, it was America Inc.’s decision to replace polluting manufacturing with service industries that led to the closing of US factories. Accusing China of manipulating its currency to gain an export advantage and distort current-account deficit values is misleading. US trade-deficit figures are distorted, not only with China but with other countries as well. The “imports” are mostly goods produced by US-owned firms or outsourcing firms offshore. These practices are usually recorded under inter-company trade.
Moving manufacturing operations overseas has made America richer and less polluted. Low-priced imports save the average American family more than US$1,000 a year, allowing consumers to buy more goods and services. By closing its polluting factories, America is exporting pollution to other countries such as China.
China has neither the ability nor the desire to challenge US global hegemony. Its military, though capable of inflicting catastrophic damage to the US and its allies, is weaker and less advanced. China has too many problems — rampant corruption, ethnic tensions, environmental degradation, etc. — to make new enemies. President Xi is correct: US-China cooperation is the only way forward. Conflict between China and the US would a have a devastating effect not only on both countries but also on the rest of the world. Trump’s meeting with Xi April 6 and 7 would appear to indicate the US president realizes the relationship must remain open and productive. Moreover, the majority of the American public and its states want a better US-China relationship.
http://www.atimes.com/us-china-cooperation-way-going-forward/
In spite of President Donald Trump’s anti-China rhetoric during and shortly after he was elected, a more constructive and cooperative US-China relationship will likely emerge after his meeting next week with President Xi Jinping. In addition to Trump’s recent conciliatory letter to Xi followed by a cordial telephone conversation, economic and geopolitical realities demand that the relationship improve.
The world’s second-largest economy is too big to coerce and impossible to contain. China has responded to what it sees as external threats by building islands in the South China Sea and deploying missiles, jet fighters and other military assets on them. In addition, China has increased — and will continue to boost — the number of submarines and surface warships to defend what it sees as US aggression. Its second aircraft carrier is expected to be launched this year. More and bigger destroyers and nuclear submarines are under construction. China is said to be building its first 40,000-ton assault ship, capable of carrying 30 armed helicopters. Even if all of Asia sides with the United States, taking down a country of more than 1.36 billion people armed with conventional and nuclear weapons without sacrificing millions of Asian and American lives is delusional.
The US and Chinese economies are closely intertwined. In spite of relentless China-bashing, two-way trade has jumped from less than US$35 billion in 1990 to almost US$600 billion last year. More than two-third of Chinese exports to the US are produced by American or US-China joint-venture firms. Moreover, the supply chain is deeply interdependent between the two countries. There was practically zero Chinese investment in the US in the 1990s, but that had risen to more than US$100 billion by 2016. US investment in China has also grown from zero in 2000 to US$228 billion by 2016 with American Fortune 500 companies leading the way.
China plays pivotal role in US economic health
China is the top export market and major investor in 33 states, according to Bloomberg. China has played a pivotal role in spurring or sustaining economic growth in California, Washington, Texas, Michigan, and other states. The cities of Chicago, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia recently signed contracts with a Chinese railway company’s US subsidiary to produce hundreds of trains. More will likely follow given America’s degraded infrastructure and Trump’s campaign pledge to rebuild it.
China’s increasingly affluent market explains why more American politicians, business people, tourists, and students travel to China. The growing Chinese economy offers the best opportunity for US enterprises. For example, Boeing has sold more than US$60 billion in aircraft to China since 2000. And states with large agricultural businesses have profited from selling chicken parts, soybeans, and other foodstuffs to China’s growing middle- and upper-middle classes now numbering almost 700 million and increasing.
Indeed, politicians representing export-dependent and investment-hungry states who denounced China have softened their criticism on trade and human-rights issues. Rick Perry, former Texas governor and US presidential hopeful, had accused China of unfair trade practices and human-rights abuses. But he changed his tune last year during a trip to China promoting Texas, calling China a great “friend” of his state. Presidential candidates, from Bill Clinton to Donald Trump, campaigned on get-tough-on-China platforms but made U-turns once in office.
Anti-China rhetoric makes no sense
Their 180-degree policy flip-flop is influenced not only by economic and geopolitical realities but also by nonsensical anti-China rhetoric. China did not “rape” America or “steal” its jobs as Trump and his trade chief, Peter Navarro, claimed. Unskilled or semi-skilled manufacturing jobs were automated. Indeed, it was America Inc.’s decision to replace polluting manufacturing with service industries that led to the closing of US factories. Accusing China of manipulating its currency to gain an export advantage and distort current-account deficit values is misleading. US trade-deficit figures are distorted, not only with China but with other countries as well. The “imports” are mostly goods produced by US-owned firms or outsourcing firms offshore. These practices are usually recorded under inter-company trade.
Moving manufacturing operations overseas has made America richer and less polluted. Low-priced imports save the average American family more than US$1,000 a year, allowing consumers to buy more goods and services. By closing its polluting factories, America is exporting pollution to other countries such as China.
China has neither the ability nor the desire to challenge US global hegemony. Its military, though capable of inflicting catastrophic damage to the US and its allies, is weaker and less advanced. China has too many problems — rampant corruption, ethnic tensions, environmental degradation, etc. — to make new enemies. President Xi is correct: US-China cooperation is the only way forward. Conflict between China and the US would a have a devastating effect not only on both countries but also on the rest of the world. Trump’s meeting with Xi April 6 and 7 would appear to indicate the US president realizes the relationship must remain open and productive. Moreover, the majority of the American public and its states want a better US-China relationship.
http://www.atimes.com/us-china-cooperation-way-going-forward/
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When reality sinks in, the only way forward is cooperation between the big two countries. Their economies are just too integrated - you can't hurt one without hurting the other.
If I recall correctly, there are about 300 avenues/platforms where these big two are able to have "dialogue".
At the end of the day, only their interests matter. Don't think the other countries matter, this is the harsh reality.
And, money still talks, bullsh*t walks.
If I recall correctly, there are about 300 avenues/platforms where these big two are able to have "dialogue".
At the end of the day, only their interests matter. Don't think the other countries matter, this is the harsh reality.
And, money still talks, bullsh*t walks.
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2017-04-06 10:43 | Global Times | Editor:Li Yan
Editor's Note:
The People's Republic of China and the U.S. established diplomatic relations in 1979. They are both members of UN Security Council, G20, APEC and various other international groups and have agreed to work together on addressing their common interests such as the North Korean nuclear issue, the Syrian civil war, climate change and maintaining global economic stability. (Graphics/GT)
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2017-04-06 10:43 | Global Times | Editor:Li Yan
Editor's Note:
The People's Republic of China and the U.S. established diplomatic relations in 1979. They are both members of UN Security Council, G20, APEC and various other international groups and have agreed to work together on addressing their common interests such as the North Korean nuclear issue, the Syrian civil war, climate change and maintaining global economic stability. (Graphics/GT)
GDP and growth (Graphics/GT)
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China mocks Trump missile strike after Xi leaves US: ‘A weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles’
DAVID EDWARDS
09 APR 2017 AT 13:33 ET
China’s state-run news agency waited for President Xi Jinping to leave the U.S. before unleashing criticism on President Donald Trump’s Syrian missile strike.
Although President Xi was visiting Mar-a-Lago when Trump ordered the strike on a Syrian air base, Xinhua waited until China’s president was safely out of the country before mocking the military action.
“Xinhua, the state news agency, on Saturday called the strike the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles,” The New York Times reported. “In an analysis, Xinhua also said Mr. Trump had ordered the strike to distance himself from Syria’s backers in Moscow, to overcome accusations that he was ‘pro-Russia.'”
Over the weekend, Trump declared that the two leaders “made tremendous progress”
“I just want to say that President Xi and all of his representatives have been really interesting to be with,” the U.S. president said following the meeting. “I believe lots of very potentially bad problems will be going away.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/chi...ed-politician-who-needed-to-flex-his-muscles/
DAVID EDWARDS
09 APR 2017 AT 13:33 ET
China’s state-run news agency waited for President Xi Jinping to leave the U.S. before unleashing criticism on President Donald Trump’s Syrian missile strike.
Although President Xi was visiting Mar-a-Lago when Trump ordered the strike on a Syrian air base, Xinhua waited until China’s president was safely out of the country before mocking the military action.
“Xinhua, the state news agency, on Saturday called the strike the act of a weakened politician who needed to flex his muscles,” The New York Times reported. “In an analysis, Xinhua also said Mr. Trump had ordered the strike to distance himself from Syria’s backers in Moscow, to overcome accusations that he was ‘pro-Russia.'”
Over the weekend, Trump declared that the two leaders “made tremendous progress”
“I just want to say that President Xi and all of his representatives have been really interesting to be with,” the U.S. president said following the meeting. “I believe lots of very potentially bad problems will be going away.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/chi...ed-politician-who-needed-to-flex-his-muscles/
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Besides, set up on display "those 100 million fireworks" while hosting a dignitary guest is completely out of courtesy act... it's an unspoken rudeness that won't go unnoticed and be forgotten. At the end more or less it simply shows some kind of madness (wacko) and unreliable quality.
Among the big guys, such fireworks won't scare anyone... any big guy keeps lots of stocks at base.
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