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China unveils giant new drone that may point to future of air warfare -analysis​

The new drone can fly up to 10,000km and has a 24-meter wingspan. It can carry up to 16 munitions, including missiles and bombs.

By SETH J. FRANTZMAN

Published: NOVEMBER 9, 2022 21:58

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China is showing off a new large drone at its important Zhuhai air show. This event is the 14th exhibition of its type in China and is usually where Beijing shows off new airplanes, drones and munitions. China has become a major player in the military drone market over the last decade.

While China makes a large number of drones, many of them borrow heavily from how American Reaper and Predator drones look. Those drones also have commonalities with Israeli large UAVs, such as Herons and Hermes.

As such China’s decision to unveil what is called the Wing Loong-3 is an attempt to showcase Beijing’s ability to build upon its existing smaller versions of the same drone, and claim that it now has a long-range drone capable of carrying numerous missiles.

Drones have been in the news lately because Russia is using Iranian kamikaze drones in the war on Ukraine. These are relatively cheap and simple delta-wing designs that are actually what is known as a “loitering munition,” meaning it’s a flying munition similar to a cruise missile.

The Iranian drones don’t even “loiter,” they just fly on a path into a target. They are deadly but they are also relatively simple as a concept. The Chinese Wing Loong is supposed to be a more complex version of the American Reaper.

According to reports in China, the new drone can fly up to 10,000km and has a 24-meter wingspan. It can carry up to 16 munitions, including missiles and bombs. It can carry air-to-air missiles which would make it more interesting than existing similar drones that are made in Israel or the US.

These kinds of drones are large UAVs, sometimes called “medium altitude, long endurance” or “MALE” as an acronym.

The US also makes the Global Hawk, a large drone that is used for surveillance. That drone has a takeoff weight of some 14,000kg and looks like a flying beluga whale. In comparison, the American Reaper has a takeoff weight of some 4,000kg and a wingspan of 21 meters.

The Reaper has a range of almost 2,000km and flies up to 50,000 feet and can carry some 1,400kg of munitions on its wings and 300kg of payloads internally. It can carry a variety of munitions but mostly is equipped with Hellfire missiles and JDAMs.

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The Wing Loong drone models​

By contrast, the new Chinese drone claims to be able to carry PL-10E air-to-air missiles so it can also strike helicopters and other drones. It can fly for some 40 hours and China claims it has a massive range of some 10,000km. It is made by the Chinese company AVIC.

AVIC already made other Wing Loong models that have been exported to 11 countries around the world. Now it has unveiled not only the large Wing Loong model, but also new versions of its existing drones; called Wing Loong 1E, Wing Loong 2y, and Wing Loong 2H, as well as the 10A and 10B.

The big question around all these drones is whether they will be exported and whether they will meet the needs of customers. In the past, China made rapid inroads in the Middle East with its drones because the US was reticent to sell the Reaper and Predator in armed versions.

China therefore could flood the market, but many countries appear to have been disappointed by some of the older models of China’s drones.

At the end of the day, the US has decades of experience with the Predator, and it takes a lot of experience to get drones to work in all-weather environments and have them do what countries want them to do. Israel also has four decades of experience with UAVs, having developed them in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

China, in contrast, can show off a lot of new platforms and make claims about the long ranges and weapons they can carry, but it’s unclear if they can accomplish these tasks until they have to be put into a war situation.

China’s drones have been used not only in the Middle East but also in North Africa. Some 17 countries used China’s armed drones, and countries like Pakistan have imported them for years.

The new Wing Loong 3 hints at the concept of using drones in combat against other drones or aircraft. This would be a major step in the use of UAVs.

Drones in future wars​

Future wars are likely to be fought by countries that both have drones. Using drones as early warning systems in the air, or as pickets and trip wires for enemy forces, forcing them to go through an advance guard of expendable drones is a novel concept.

If a country can field dozens or hundreds of armed drones out in front of its forces armed with air-to-air missiles and other devices, then those countries may have an advantage.

China would have to show it can mass produce these drones and that they are able to conduct the kinds of long-range missions, staying aloft for a day or two, capabilities that the companies which make the drones claim can be accomplished.

The fact that Russia has sought out Iranian drones shows countries are hungry for the technology. The fact China isn’t exporting to Russia also shows the sensitivities involved.

Recent wars such as the one between Armenia and Azerbaijan show what drones can deliver on the battlefield. China’s new drones may hint at where air warfare is going.

 
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Anti-sub drones up for sale at air show

By ZHAO LEI in Zhuhai, Guangdong | China Daily | Updated: 2022-11-10 09:19
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A photo shows a CH-5 combat drone being displayed at the 14th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Zhuhai, Guangdong province, Nov 8, 2022. [Photo by WANG ZHUANGFEI/CHINA DAILY]

Detecting, tracking and hitting submarines are tough challenges for any navy because such tasks require sophisticated, expensive hardware and well-trained, experienced personnel.
For most militaries around the world, anti-submarine operations are too difficult to carry out due to the lack of affordable weapons.

However, China is now offering them a convenient solution: an advanced unmanned submarine-hunter system — the maritime patrol variant of the CH-5, one of China's top combat drones for export.

According to China Academy of Aerospace Aerodynamics in Beijing, maker of the CH-series drones, the latest CH-5 variant is tasked with handling "complicated marine situations and environments" and features long operational time and flight range.

It is equipped with electronic and optical reconnaissance apparatus and wide-field detection radars, capable of locating, monitoring and engaging hostile targets over a vast sea area, said Shi Wen, chief designer of the CH unmanned aircraft family.

According to Shi, the CH-5 drone has a maximum speed of 290 kilometers per hour but usually flies at cruising speeds ranging from 180 to 220 km/h. It has a maximum takeoff weight of 3.3 metric tons and can carry up to 480 kilograms of equipment and weapons.

The aircraft is capable of staying in the air for up to 35 hours.

A CH-5 maritime patrol drone is on display at the 14th China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition in Guangdong province's Zhuhai, with detection and sonobuoy launcher devices mounted under its wings.

A video clip released by Shi's academy at the air show shows a CH-5 maritime patrol model dropping a sonobuoy above seawater.

Wu Peixin, an aviation industry observer in Beijing, said that the United States has modified some drone models for anti-submarine warfare and it has proved that anti-submarine drones are a useful asset in sea operations.

"Compared with fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters designed for anti-submarine purposes, the biggest advantages of such drones are that they can stay much longer over the target zone, they are much cheaper to buy, operate and maintain, and that several drones can be networked to increase the odds of finding hostile submarines," he explained.

The Beijing-headquartered academy is one of China's top military drone exporters. More than 200 medium- and large-size combat drones in the CH family have been sold to more than 10 foreign countries, making it the most popular and combat-proven drone the country has exported, according to statistics from the academy. In the past five years, about 100 medium-and large-size CH-series drones were delivered to foreign users.


 
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China unveils giant new drone that may point to future of air warfare -analysis​

The new drone can fly up to 10,000km and has a 24-meter wingspan. It can carry up to 16 munitions, including missiles and bombs.

By SETH J. FRANTZMAN

Published: NOVEMBER 9, 2022 21:58

5e93bfcb34074a3b892e280e21087923.jpg

China is showing off a new large drone at its important Zhuhai air show. This event is the 14th exhibition of its type in China and is usually where Beijing shows off new airplanes, drones and munitions. China has become a major player in the military drone market over the last decade.

While China makes a large number of drones, many of them borrow heavily from how American Reaper and Predator drones look. Those drones also have commonalities with Israeli large UAVs, such as Herons and Hermes.

As such China’s decision to unveil what is called the Wing Loong-3 is an attempt to showcase Beijing’s ability to build upon its existing smaller versions of the same drone, and claim that it now has a long-range drone capable of carrying numerous missiles.

Drones have been in the news lately because Russia is using Iranian kamikaze drones in the war on Ukraine. These are relatively cheap and simple delta-wing designs that are actually what is known as a “loitering munition,” meaning it’s a flying munition similar to a cruise missile.

The Iranian drones don’t even “loiter,” they just fly on a path into a target. They are deadly but they are also relatively simple as a concept. The Chinese Wing Loong is supposed to be a more complex version of the American Reaper.

According to reports in China, the new drone can fly up to 10,000km and has a 24-meter wingspan. It can carry up to 16 munitions, including missiles and bombs. It can carry air-to-air missiles which would make it more interesting than existing similar drones that are made in Israel or the US.

These kinds of drones are large UAVs, sometimes called “medium altitude, long endurance” or “MALE” as an acronym.

The US also makes the Global Hawk, a large drone that is used for surveillance. That drone has a takeoff weight of some 14,000kg and looks like a flying beluga whale. In comparison, the American Reaper has a takeoff weight of some 4,000kg and a wingspan of 21 meters.

The Reaper has a range of almost 2,000km and flies up to 50,000 feet and can carry some 1,400kg of munitions on its wings and 300kg of payloads internally. It can carry a variety of munitions but mostly is equipped with Hellfire missiles and JDAMs.

bsp_47810-jdw-19703.jpg

The Wing Loong drone models​

By contrast, the new Chinese drone claims to be able to carry PL-10E air-to-air missiles so it can also strike helicopters and other drones. It can fly for some 40 hours and China claims it has a massive range of some 10,000km. It is made by the Chinese company AVIC.

AVIC already made other Wing Loong models that have been exported to 11 countries around the world. Now it has unveiled not only the large Wing Loong model, but also new versions of its existing drones; called Wing Loong 1E, Wing Loong 2y, and Wing Loong 2H, as well as the 10A and 10B.

The big question around all these drones is whether they will be exported and whether they will meet the needs of customers. In the past, China made rapid inroads in the Middle East with its drones because the US was reticent to sell the Reaper and Predator in armed versions.

China therefore could flood the market, but many countries appear to have been disappointed by some of the older models of China’s drones.

At the end of the day, the US has decades of experience with the Predator, and it takes a lot of experience to get drones to work in all-weather environments and have them do what countries want them to do. Israel also has four decades of experience with UAVs, having developed them in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

China, in contrast, can show off a lot of new platforms and make claims about the long ranges and weapons they can carry, but it’s unclear if they can accomplish these tasks until they have to be put into a war situation.

China’s drones have been used not only in the Middle East but also in North Africa. Some 17 countries used China’s armed drones, and countries like Pakistan have imported them for years.

The new Wing Loong 3 hints at the concept of using drones in combat against other drones or aircraft. This would be a major step in the use of UAVs.

Drones in future wars​

Future wars are likely to be fought by countries that both have drones. Using drones as early warning systems in the air, or as pickets and trip wires for enemy forces, forcing them to go through an advance guard of expendable drones is a novel concept.

If a country can field dozens or hundreds of armed drones out in front of its forces armed with air-to-air missiles and other devices, then those countries may have an advantage.

China would have to show it can mass produce these drones and that they are able to conduct the kinds of long-range missions, staying aloft for a day or two, capabilities that the companies which make the drones claim can be accomplished.

The fact that Russia has sought out Iranian drones shows countries are hungry for the technology. The fact China isn’t exporting to Russia also shows the sensitivities involved.

Recent wars such as the one between Armenia and Azerbaijan show what drones can deliver on the battlefield. China’s new drones may hint at where air warfare is going.


The entire article is pointless, hardly talks about the drone and keeps talking about American drones. If he/she is so salty, maybe they should get another writer to cover it properly.
 
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The entire article is pointless, hardly talks about the drone and keeps talking about American drones. If he/she is so salty, maybe they should get another writer to cover it properly.
So whatelse they should talk about? Rustom?
 
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