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China, US, UK join forces on human gene editing
September 15, 2015

It's been announced a group of Chinese scientists are going to be joining an expert panel later this year to lay out guidelines for a controversial new procedure connected to human genome research.

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Double helix structure of DNA. [Photo: chinanews.com]

The Chinese Academy of Sciences will join other scientists from the UK and the US at an international summit in Washington in early December to discuss a process called human gene 'editing.'

'Editing' is a new process which has been developed which can allow scientists to alter the smallest parts of human DNA.

This process can allow scientists to alter the human genetic code to allow scientists to potentially eliminate genetic-based diseases.

However, the scientists will be meeting to discuss the ethical and social ramifications of the advancement, with a report due to be released sometime next year.

When I see the word "ethical" with science it basically means that it will not go beyond research state.
 
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For humans to better survive on other planets when we go out into deep space, gene editing will be a vital imperative with little limits. Evolution will take tooooo long.
 
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For humans to better survive on other planets when we go out into deep space, gene editing will be a vital imperative with little limits. Evolution will take tooooo long.

Forget it, impossible. You know what light-year means. Even we can find out proper planet, nobody can reach there.
 
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Forget it, impossible. You know what light-year means. Even we can find out proper planet, nobody can reach there.
Well, gene editing could include extending the biological life-span and changing the fundamentals of aging. Long enough to survive the travel while reproducing.
 
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Forget it, impossible. You know what light-year means. Even we can find out proper planet, nobody can reach there.

Yeah light-years may seem like insurmountable distances based on current tech, but maybe human can bypass that soon?

Ming Dynasty locked it self out from the seas and missed the Age of Great Geographical Discovery, now let's not miss this Age of Great Galactic Discovery. Have faith bro!
 
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Yeah light-years may seem like insurmountable distances based on current tech, but maybe human can bypass that soon?

Ming Dynasty locked it self out from the seas and missed the Age of Great Geographical Discovery, now let's not miss this Age of Great Galactic Discovery. Have faith bro!

what are you talking about? off topic man. by the way, Ming dynasty didn't lock itself out from the sea, Ming dyansty just didn't encourage, even opposed private trading.
 
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what are you talking about? off topic man. by the way, Ming dynasty didn't lock itself out from the sea, Ming dyansty just didn't encourage, even opposed private trading.

Right bro, it's about gene editing. So on topic, I look forward to see some results from boys in the lab, it could be a good tech!
 
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Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos
APRIL 23, 2015 5:06 AM ET
ROB STEIN
Twitter Facebook
Morning Edition

For the first time, scientists have edited DNA in human embryos, a highly controversial step long considered off limits.

Junjiu Huang and his colleagues at the Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, performed a series of experiments involving 86 human embryos to see if they could make changes in a gene known as HBB, which causes the sometimes fatal blood disorder beta-thalassemia.

The report, in the journal Protein & Cell, was immediately condemned by other scientists and watchdog groups, who argue the research is unsafe, premature and raises disturbing ethical concerns.

Related
Scientists Urge Temporary Moratorium On Human Genome Edits


"No researcher should have the moral warrant to flout the globally widespread policy agreement against modifying the human germline," Marcy Darnovsky of the Center for Genetics and Society, a watchdog group, wrote in an email to Shots. "This paper demonstrates the enormous safety risks that any such attempt would entail, and underlines the urgency of working to forestall other such efforts. The social dangers of creating genetically modified human beings cannot be overstated."

George Daley, a stem cell researcher at Harvard, agreed.

"Their data reinforces the wisdom of the calls for a moratorium on any clinical practice of embryo gene editing, because current methods are too inefficient and unsafe," he wrote in an email. "Further, there needs to be careful consideration not only of the safety but also of the social and ethical implications of applying this technology to alter our germ lines."

Scientists have been able to manipulate DNA for years. But it's long been considered taboo to make changes in the DNA in a human egg, sperm or embryo because those changes could become a permanent part of the human genetic blueprint. One concern is that it would be unsafe: Scientists could make a mistake, which could introduce a new disease that would be passed down for generations. And there's also fears it this could lead to socially troubling developments, such as "designer babies," in which parents can pick and choose the traits of their children.

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A CRISPR Way To Fix Faulty Genes


The Chinese researchers say they tried this to try to refine a new technique called CRISPR/Cas9, which many scientists are excited about it because it makes it much easier to edit DNA. The procedure could enable scientists to do all sorts of things, including possibly preventing and curing diseases. So the Chinese scientists tried using CRISPR/Cas9 to fix a gene known as the HBB gene, which causes beta thallasemia.

The work was done on 86 very early embryos that weren't viable, in order to minimize some of the ethical concerns. Only 71 of the embryos survived, and just 28 were successfully edited. But the process also frequently created unintended mutations in the embryos' DNA.

"Taken together, our data underscore the need to more comprehensively understand the mechanisms of CRISPR/Cas9-mediated genome editing in human cells, and support the notion that clinical applications of the CRISPR system may be premature at this stage," the Chinese scientists wrote.

Related

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In Hopes Of Fixing Faulty Genes, One Scientist Starts With The Basics


Rumors about this research have been circulating for weeks, prompting several prominent groups of scientists to publish appeals for a moratorium on doing this sort of thing.

In the wake of the report from the Chinese scientists, several of these researchers reiterated their call for a moratorium. Some said they hoped the difficulties that Huang and his colleagues encountered might discourage other scientists from attempting anything similar.

"The study simply underscores the point that the technology is not ready for clinical application in the human germline," Jennifer Doudna, the University of California, Berkeley, scientist who developed CRISPR, wrote in an email. "And that application of the technology needs to be on hold pending a broader societal discussion of the scientific and ethical issues surrounding such use."

But there are already reports that Huang's group and possibly others in China continue to try editing the genes in human embryos.

"We should brace for a wave of these papers, and I worry that if one is published with a more positive spin, it might prompt some IVF clinics to start practicing it, which in my opinion would be grossly premature and dangerous," Daley says.

Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos : Shots - Health News : NPR
 
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Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos
APRIL 23, 2015 5:06 AM ET
ROB STEIN
Twitter Facebook
Morning Edition

For the first time, scientists have edited DNA in human embryos, a highly controversial step long considered off limits.

Junjiu Huang and his colleagues at the Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, performed a series of experiments involving 86 human embryos to see if they could make changes in a gene known as HBB, which causes the sometimes fatal blood disorder beta-thalassemia.

The report, in the journal Protein & Cell, was immediately condemned by other scientists and watchdog groups, who argue the research is unsafe, premature and raises disturbing ethical concerns.

Related
Scientists Urge Temporary Moratorium On Human Genome Edits


"No researcher should have the moral warrant to flout the globally widespread policy agreement against modifying the human germline," Marcy Darnovsky of the Center for Genetics and Society, a watchdog group, wrote in an email to Shots. "This paper demonstrates the enormous safety risks that any such attempt would entail, and underlines the urgency of working to forestall other such efforts. The social dangers of creating genetically modified human beings cannot be overstated."

George Daley, a stem cell researcher at Harvard, agreed.

"Their data reinforces the wisdom of the calls for a moratorium on any clinical practice of embryo gene editing, because current methods are too inefficient and unsafe," he wrote in an email. "Further, there needs to be careful consideration not only of the safety but also of the social and ethical implications of applying this technology to alter our germ lines."

Scientists have been able to manipulate DNA for years. But it's long been considered taboo to make changes in the DNA in a human egg, sperm or embryo because those changes could become a permanent part of the human genetic blueprint. One concern is that it would be unsafe: Scientists could make a mistake, which could introduce a new disease that would be passed down for generations. And there's also fears it this could lead to socially troubling developments, such as "designer babies," in which parents can pick and choose the traits of their children.

Related
SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
A CRISPR Way To Fix Faulty Genes


The Chinese researchers say they tried this to try to refine a new technique called CRISPR/Cas9, which many scientists are excited about it because it makes it much easier to edit DNA. The procedure could enable scientists to do all sorts of things, including possibly preventing and curing diseases. So the Chinese scientists tried using CRISPR/Cas9 to fix a gene known as the HBB gene, which causes beta thallasemia.

The work was done on 86 very early embryos that weren't viable, in order to minimize some of the ethical concerns. Only 71 of the embryos survived, and just 28 were successfully edited. But the process also frequently created unintended mutations in the embryos' DNA.

"Taken together, our data underscore the need to more comprehensively understand the mechanisms of CRISPR/Cas9-mediated genome editing in human cells, and support the notion that clinical applications of the CRISPR system may be premature at this stage," the Chinese scientists wrote.

Related

SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
In Hopes Of Fixing Faulty Genes, One Scientist Starts With The Basics


Rumors about this research have been circulating for weeks, prompting several prominent groups of scientists to publish appeals for a moratorium on doing this sort of thing.

In the wake of the report from the Chinese scientists, several of these researchers reiterated their call for a moratorium. Some said they hoped the difficulties that Huang and his colleagues encountered might discourage other scientists from attempting anything similar.

"The study simply underscores the point that the technology is not ready for clinical application in the human germline," Jennifer Doudna, the University of California, Berkeley, scientist who developed CRISPR, wrote in an email. "And that application of the technology needs to be on hold pending a broader societal discussion of the scientific and ethical issues surrounding such use."

But there are already reports that Huang's group and possibly others in China continue to try editing the genes in human embryos.

"We should brace for a wave of these papers, and I worry that if one is published with a more positive spin, it might prompt some IVF clinics to start practicing it, which in my opinion would be grossly premature and dangerous," Daley says.

Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos : Shots - Health News : NPR

There will always be people apprehensive of progress.
 
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Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos
APRIL 23, 2015 5:06 AM ET
ROB STEIN
Twitter Facebook
Morning Edition

For the first time, scientists have edited DNA in human embryos, a highly controversial step long considered off limits.

Junjiu Huang and his colleagues at the Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, performed a series of experiments involving 86 human embryos to see if they could make changes in a gene known as HBB, which causes the sometimes fatal blood disorder beta-thalassemia.

The report, in the journal Protein & Cell, was immediately condemned by other scientists and watchdog groups, who argue the research is unsafe, premature and raises disturbing ethical concerns.

Related
Scientists Urge Temporary Moratorium On Human Genome Edits


"No researcher should have the moral warrant to flout the globally widespread policy agreement against modifying the human germline," Marcy Darnovsky of the Center for Genetics and Society, a watchdog group, wrote in an email to Shots. "This paper demonstrates the enormous safety risks that any such attempt would entail, and underlines the urgency of working to forestall other such efforts. The social dangers of creating genetically modified human beings cannot be overstated."

George Daley, a stem cell researcher at Harvard, agreed.

"Their data reinforces the wisdom of the calls for a moratorium on any clinical practice of embryo gene editing, because current methods are too inefficient and unsafe," he wrote in an email. "Further, there needs to be careful consideration not only of the safety but also of the social and ethical implications of applying this technology to alter our germ lines."

Scientists have been able to manipulate DNA for years. But it's long been considered taboo to make changes in the DNA in a human egg, sperm or embryo because those changes could become a permanent part of the human genetic blueprint. One concern is that it would be unsafe: Scientists could make a mistake, which could introduce a new disease that would be passed down for generations. And there's also fears it this could lead to socially troubling developments, such as "designer babies," in which parents can pick and choose the traits of their children.

Related
SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
A CRISPR Way To Fix Faulty Genes


The Chinese researchers say they tried this to try to refine a new technique called CRISPR/Cas9, which many scientists are excited about it because it makes it much easier to edit DNA. The procedure could enable scientists to do all sorts of things, including possibly preventing and curing diseases. So the Chinese scientists tried using CRISPR/Cas9 to fix a gene known as the HBB gene, which causes beta thallasemia.

The work was done on 86 very early embryos that weren't viable, in order to minimize some of the ethical concerns. Only 71 of the embryos survived, and just 28 were successfully edited. But the process also frequently created unintended mutations in the embryos' DNA.

"Taken together, our data underscore the need to more comprehensively understand the mechanisms of CRISPR/Cas9-mediated genome editing in human cells, and support the notion that clinical applications of the CRISPR system may be premature at this stage," the Chinese scientists wrote.

Related

SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
In Hopes Of Fixing Faulty Genes, One Scientist Starts With The Basics


Rumors about this research have been circulating for weeks, prompting several prominent groups of scientists to publish appeals for a moratorium on doing this sort of thing.

In the wake of the report from the Chinese scientists, several of these researchers reiterated their call for a moratorium. Some said they hoped the difficulties that Huang and his colleagues encountered might discourage other scientists from attempting anything similar.

"The study simply underscores the point that the technology is not ready for clinical application in the human germline," Jennifer Doudna, the University of California, Berkeley, scientist who developed CRISPR, wrote in an email. "And that application of the technology needs to be on hold pending a broader societal discussion of the scientific and ethical issues surrounding such use."

But there are already reports that Huang's group and possibly others in China continue to try editing the genes in human embryos.

"We should brace for a wave of these papers, and I worry that if one is published with a more positive spin, it might prompt some IVF clinics to start practicing it, which in my opinion would be grossly premature and dangerous," Daley says.

Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos : Shots - Health News : NPR

**** the special interest and religious groups. they are just as bad as liberal Chinese and wasabis.
 
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Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos
APRIL 23, 2015 5:06 AM ET
ROB STEIN
Twitter Facebook
Morning Edition

For the first time, scientists have edited DNA in human embryos, a highly controversial step long considered off limits.

Junjiu Huang and his colleagues at the Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzhou, China, performed a series of experiments involving 86 human embryos to see if they could make changes in a gene known as HBB, which causes the sometimes fatal blood disorder beta-thalassemia.

The report, in the journal Protein & Cell, was immediately condemned by other scientists and watchdog groups, who argue the research is unsafe, premature and raises disturbing ethical concerns.

Related
Scientists Urge Temporary Moratorium On Human Genome Edits


"No researcher should have the moral warrant to flout the globally widespread policy agreement against modifying the human germline," Marcy Darnovsky of the Center for Genetics and Society, a watchdog group, wrote in an email to Shots. "This paper demonstrates the enormous safety risks that any such attempt would entail, and underlines the urgency of working to forestall other such efforts. The social dangers of creating genetically modified human beings cannot be overstated."

George Daley, a stem cell researcher at Harvard, agreed.

"Their data reinforces the wisdom of the calls for a moratorium on any clinical practice of embryo gene editing, because current methods are too inefficient and unsafe," he wrote in an email. "Further, there needs to be careful consideration not only of the safety but also of the social and ethical implications of applying this technology to alter our germ lines."

Scientists have been able to manipulate DNA for years. But it's long been considered taboo to make changes in the DNA in a human egg, sperm or embryo because those changes could become a permanent part of the human genetic blueprint. One concern is that it would be unsafe: Scientists could make a mistake, which could introduce a new disease that would be passed down for generations. And there's also fears it this could lead to socially troubling developments, such as "designer babies," in which parents can pick and choose the traits of their children.

Related
SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
A CRISPR Way To Fix Faulty Genes


The Chinese researchers say they tried this to try to refine a new technique called CRISPR/Cas9, which many scientists are excited about it because it makes it much easier to edit DNA. The procedure could enable scientists to do all sorts of things, including possibly preventing and curing diseases. So the Chinese scientists tried using CRISPR/Cas9 to fix a gene known as the HBB gene, which causes beta thallasemia.

The work was done on 86 very early embryos that weren't viable, in order to minimize some of the ethical concerns. Only 71 of the embryos survived, and just 28 were successfully edited. But the process also frequently created unintended mutations in the embryos' DNA.

"Taken together, our data underscore the need to more comprehensively understand the mechanisms of CRISPR/Cas9-mediated genome editing in human cells, and support the notion that clinical applications of the CRISPR system may be premature at this stage," the Chinese scientists wrote.

Related

SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS
In Hopes Of Fixing Faulty Genes, One Scientist Starts With The Basics


Rumors about this research have been circulating for weeks, prompting several prominent groups of scientists to publish appeals for a moratorium on doing this sort of thing.

In the wake of the report from the Chinese scientists, several of these researchers reiterated their call for a moratorium. Some said they hoped the difficulties that Huang and his colleagues encountered might discourage other scientists from attempting anything similar.

"The study simply underscores the point that the technology is not ready for clinical application in the human germline," Jennifer Doudna, the University of California, Berkeley, scientist who developed CRISPR, wrote in an email. "And that application of the technology needs to be on hold pending a broader societal discussion of the scientific and ethical issues surrounding such use."

But there are already reports that Huang's group and possibly others in China continue to try editing the genes in human embryos.

"We should brace for a wave of these papers, and I worry that if one is published with a more positive spin, it might prompt some IVF clinics to start practicing it, which in my opinion would be grossly premature and dangerous," Daley says.

Critics Lash Out At Chinese Scientists Who Edited DNA In Human Embryos : Shots - Health News : NPR

Oh God... Reminds why I dislike any country that has an Abramic religion majority.. In Turkey we are banning any genetic research that's not plant based. We don't even let the research to be made. And even for the plant based research, the researcher should get a permit from the government. I see Christian majority and Muslim majority countries get Along really well when the topic is banning the science.

Yeah, why don't we also ban stem cell research!? Can we forsee the effects? What about cancer research, let's also ban that. If Lord wants to take Your life you shouldn't interfere that right?

These so-called scientists and 'watchdogs' are just like Catholic Church in 16th century. Bunch of lunatics always trying to stop human progress by spreading paranoia.
 
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British and Chinese officials have agreed to study a possible link-up between the London and Shanghai stock exchanges, raising fears among Hong Kong brokers of a shrinking China business pie here.

Britain and China will carry out a feasibility study for a stock exchange connect scheme between London and Shanghai, according to a document issued by the British finance ministry in Beijing yesterday at the end of the annual UK-China Economic and Financial Dialogue.

The document, released before British Finance Minister George Osborne's trip to China this week, also said the People's Bank of China would issue a yuan-denominated central bank note in London in the near future, but did not provide a time frame.

A spokeswoman for Hong Kong Exchanges and Clearing said the feasibility study "is a positive sign that the mainland will continue to open".

"This is not a zero sum game and wider opening of the mainland capital market will have knock-on benefits for Hong Kong," she said.

Many local players are less upbeat even as they take heart from the myriad technical issues that could hinder a London-Shanghai stock connect.

"If London and Shanghai launch a stock connect, Hong Kong will lose its advantage as the only market with a link to Shanghai. The proposal is a threat to Hong Kong's market. However, I don't know if such a link will happen soon," said Louis Tse Ming-kwong, director of VC Brokerage.

"Also, Hong Kong and Shanghai open markets at the same time for morning and afternoon sessions. Britain opens after Shanghai market closes," said Tse.

"How can you connect two markets when their investors are trading at different times?" Tse said. "There may be some night traders in London willing to trade in the Asia time zone but I wonder if the volume will be that huge."

As of now, HKEx is the only stock exchange with a stock connect arrangement with Shanghai. The cross-border trading scheme, which started on November 17 last year, allows international investors to trade Shanghai shares through Hong Kong.

The connect scheme was expected to be expanded to a Shenzhen-Hong Kong link-up by the end of this year but the mainland stock rout in mid-June and the market slump since may push it to next year. Stocks in the two bourses have lost over 30 per cent since reaching seven-year-highs in mid-June.

Ben Kwong Man-bun, executive director and head of research for KGI Asia, said it is natural for Beijing to want to link up with more markets as part of efforts to internationalise they yuan, but added that he does not see such schemes in the "near future".

"Hong Kong and the mainland developed strong ties over more than two decades before the stock connect came into being last year," Kwong said.

"I am not sure how many mainland investors would be interested in trading London stocks because of the language and cultural differences," Kwong said.

London and Shanghai agree to look into stock market link-up but time difference may pose problem | South China Morning Post
UK, China to carry out study on London-Shanghai stock connection| Reuters
UK to study Shanghai-London stock connect - RTHK
China, Britain to study London-Shanghai stock link: Osborne - Channel NewsAsia

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I'd like to @ that Indian member who once said Chinese can't trade on capital market freely at all. After Shanghai-Hongkong stock market connectionm here comes Shanghai-London, changes are always happening.
 
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Don't @ please :D It's a way to test our risk management ability and the financial power. It seems that UK need money so urgently. Boom or destroy is another story.

I'd like to see this connection will finally achieved, but I will never invest UK through stock market. Need too much time to know this market hence ROI can't be predicted.
 
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