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China to rent 5% of Ukraine(area the size of Belgium)

Ukraine is a ally of Russian Federation.Likely ,such a sweet deal would have been not possible without Russian backing.

I don't think Ukraine is an ally of Russia. The Ukrainians sell military technology to us that the Russians refuse to sell. The Russians cut off gas supplies to Ukraine when something goes wrong. The Russians don't like that Ukraine wants to join the EU.
 
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I don't think Ukraine is an ally of Russia. The Ukrainians sell military technology to us that the Russians refuse to sell. The Russians cut off gas supplies to Ukraine when something goes wrong. The Russians don't like that Ukraine wants to join the EU.

At least Eastern Ukraine considers itself part of Russia. I doubt Ukraine will join the failing EU,more likely they will join the Eurasian customs union.
 
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Isn't the deal for "RENT"???

So what is the fuss about???

China 'to rent five per cent of Ukraine'

Ukraine has agreed a deal with a Chinese firm to lease five per cent of its land to feed China's burgeoning and increasingly demanding population, it has been reported.



It would be the biggest so called "land grab" agreement, where one country leases or sells land to another, in a trend that has been compared to the 19th century "scramble for Africa", but which is now spreading to the vast and fertile plains of eastern Europe.Under the 50-year plan, China would eventually control three million hectares, an area equivalent to Belgium or Massachusetts, which represents nine per cent of Ukraine's arable land. Initially 100,000 hectares would be leased.The farmland in the eastern Dnipropetrovsk region would be cultivated principally for growing crops and raising pigs. The produce will be sold at preferential prices to Chinese state-owned conglomerates said the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corp (XPCC), a quasi-military organisation also known as Bingtuan.

XPCC said on Tuesday that it had signed the £1.7 billion agreement in June with KSG Agro, Ukraine's leading agricultural company. KSG Agro however denied reports that it had sold land to the Chinese, saying it had only reached agreement for the Chinese to modernise 3,000 hectares and "may in the future gradually expand to cover more areas".

Any sort of "land-grab" deal can be highly sensitive politically. Madagascar was forced to scrap a plan to lease 1.2 million hectares to South Korea in 2009 after angry protests against "neo-colonialism". The Philippines has also blocked a China investment deal.


This reminds us of a colonial process even when there is no colonial link between the two countries involved," said Christina Plank, co-author of a report by the Transnational Institute on "land-grabbing".

With its current population of 1.36 billion predicted by the UN to rise to 1.4 billion by 2050, China is among the leading renter of overseas farmland in Africa, South America and Southeast Asia, though the XPCC deal would make Ukraine China's largest overseas farming centre.

China consumes about one-fifth of the world's food supplies, but is home to just nine per cent of the world's farmland, thanks in part to rapid industrialisation."As urbanisation speeds up, consumption has led to greater food demand and domestic grain prices have stayed above global prices," Ding Li, a senior researcher in agriculture at Anbound Consulting in Beijing, told the South China Morning Post. "Therefore, China has been importing more and more grain."

Apart from China, India, South Korea, the Gulf states and western European corporations began taking tracts of land, especially in Africa, after global food prices spiked in 2008.

XPCC however is making the first such major foray into continental Europe. It has a country that has the largest land area in the continent and was known as the "bread basket as the Soviet Union" but which has progressed slowly since the fall of the Iron Curtain.

"The special thing about Ukraine is that there is so much land and so much food left, so there is not a danger of shortage. They already export a lot of grain that they cannot consume on their own," said Ms Plank.


Campaigners are however concerned about major land deals pushing smaller farmers off the land, causing unemployment and blocking long-term rural development.

The Dnipropetrovsk transaction comes with considerable side benefits for the region. The Chinese firm said it would help build a motorway in the Crimea and a bridge across the Strait of Kerch to connect the Crimea with the Taman peninsula in Russia.Cultivation methods in the area controlled by the Chinese would be modernised.

"On the one hand you can say this is good because you have these technological innovations and more efficient production, but then you have got to ask 'is it sustainable'?" said Ms Plank.



China 'to rent five per cent of Ukraine' - Telegraph


1.7 billion bucks for 5% of a waste country???Looks like the Chinese have bagged an excellent bargain. I do find China's recent neo colonial tendencies mildly discomforting though...
 
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Russia also leases some of the land on the Far East to Chinese farmers.

There are a lot of trolls who would like to stick unnecessary labels to this pure win-win deal for both countries. Nothing about permanent sovereignty hand-over is involved here, isnt it?
 
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I wonder if Ukraine gets anything good from this?

Ukraine better not regret this in the future. Russia definitely regretted selling Alaska to USA only to learn that there are tons of undiscovered oil in Alaska.

Is this genesis of Chinese Colonialism?
What's with all the colonialism talk? Ukraine gets some hard cash out of this deal in exchange for lands they are not using. It's not like the land belongs to China after this agreement. We're renting it for farming.
 
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China 'to rent five per cent of Ukraine'

Ukraine has agreed a deal with a Chinese firm to lease five per cent of its land to feed China's burgeoning and increasingly demanding population, it has been reported.


1.7 billion bucks for 5% of a waste country???Looks like the Chinese have bagged an excellent bargain. I do find China's recent neo colonial tendencies mildly discomforting though...

Ukrainian officials denied such a deal. There is a protocol of intent. It is planned to invest $ 6 billion in Ukrainian agriculture with the subsequent sale of agricultural products to China at discounted prices. Workers will be local residents.

rg.ru/2013/09/24/kitay-poln.html
 
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If they're willing to sell it, that mean they're not using it. Therefore its not going to affect a lot of people.

It is going to immensely effect 1 billion Indians, that is hell lot of people. Cruel China, never stop hurting Indian souls.
 
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What's with all the colonialism talk? Ukraine gets some hard cash out of this deal in exchange for lands they are not using. It's not like the land belongs to China after this agreement. We're renting it for farming.

Its not colonialism I'm talking about. If China wants to rent land from Ukraine and Ukraine agrees, then sure, why not. I'm just wondering what if Ukraine has lots of hidden resources that they are not aware of. Is China allowed to take advantage of this?
 
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Its not colonialism I'm talking about. If China wants to rent land from Ukraine and Ukraine agrees, then sure, why not. I'm just wondering what if Ukraine has lots of hidden resources that they are not aware of. Is China allowed to take advantage of this?

Well, the right to dispose of minerals and other hidden resources are always belong to Ukraine, I think this must be specified in the contracts. I think China is only bound by contract to do agricultural business, any unforeseen things, such as hidden resources should be discussed in another contract. Just a business.
 
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