China to License Produce Tu 22 Bombers from Russia

[for truth]

China don't really need a large strategic bomber. Modern day warfare is increasingly making the importance of strategic bombers an obsolete unfeasible concept in the face of advancement of drone technology. US is also reviewing its next gen bomber plans. Large drones will replace bombers in conventional warfare while missiles will remain an effective system of Nuclear war head delivery.

US is not reviewing any of its plans, they are already designing their next gen bomber, so is Russia, and the Chinese have been trying to develop a potent bomber aircraft since decades, and they are still continuing their effort, and the Chinese military strategic planners beg to differ here, they are very much pursuing the development of bomber; so no-- no one is abandoning the development of bombers neither the concept of bombers is outdated.

Missiles serve a completely different purpose than bombers, understand the difference first.

 

[for truth]

Here's where the guessing comes in.

Requirements for a heavy interceptor are almost same as a naval strike aircraft. Namely, big range, big load, lots of room for electronics to function independently, stealth as a definite plus in both cases.

but comparatively, it is far less capable than Tu-22M3 in terms of load carrying capacity, and Tu-22M3 has far more room for electronics compared to J-20, and J-20 cannot act as substitute for Tu-22M3, the only thing that acts as a huge plus point is the stealth in J-20. Perhaps, the Chinese may have a separate plans for naval strike aircraft. J-20 can be used as a naval strike aircraft, but i doubt that the Chinese developed J-20 for any exclusive maritime role.

And the Chinese are in desperate need of a bomber aircraft that can match Tu-22M3's performance, and they are aggressively pursuing it, that leaves no room for J-20 taking any maritime role.

 

[GR!FF!N]

Both Russia and USA has plan to develop future strategic bomber.while Russia is trying to Build PAK-DA,USA is trying to build bombers like 2018 Bomber..so,saying strategic bomber is outdated is simply rubbish..

 

[Snomannen]

Then China will create their own Tu-22M3 instead of purchasing from the bear.

 

[Princess]

Both Russia and USA has plan to develop future strategic bomber.while Russia is trying to Build PAK-DA,USA is trying to build bombers like 2018 Bomber..so,saying strategic bomber is outdated is simply rubbish..

> < zzz very very sleepy ...

bomber is not out-dated but only aerospace + stealth + unmanned bomber is meaningful to China.

we are not going to bombing countries like Iraq,
once China get involved in a war, no matter we people wish to or not,
the possible "enemy" can be very very strong
and equiping super advanced anti air weapon systems,
advance super high speed missiles / laser / railgun / particle beam etc.

using Tu22-M3 ? Ash, after all.

 

[Audio]

but comparatively, it is far less capable than Tu-22M3 in terms of load carrying capacity, and Tu-22M3 has far more room for electronics compared to J-20, and J-20 cannot act as substitute for Tu-22M3, the only thing that acts as a huge plus point is the stealth in J-20. Perhaps, the Chinese may have a separate plans for naval strike aircraft. J-20 can be used as a naval strike aircraft

Ye, all true, but you have to remember China doesnt need an exact match to go chase US Navy ships all over the world like the USSR wanted. They just need to patrol the inner islands and shoot missiles from there.
Also i was not comparing those parameters to the Tu-22. but rather did a rough layman comparison of criteria for heavy interceptor and maritime strike aircraft.

J-20 can be used as a naval strike aircraft, but i doubt that the Chinese developed J-20 for any exclusive maritime role.

Didn't say exclusive. I just said it would fit nicely.

And the Chinese are in desperate need of a bomber aircraft that can match Tu-22M3's performance, and they are aggressively pursuing it, that leaves no room for J-20 taking any maritime role.

H-6 can carry missiles quite well. Which is exactly what Tu-22 does.

 

[northeast]

> < zzz very very sleepy ...

bomber is not out-dated but only aerospace + stealth + unmanned bomber is meaningful to China.

we are not going to bombing countries like Iraq,
once China get involved in a war, no matter we people wish to or not,
the possible "enemy" can be very very strong
and equiping super advanced anti air weapon systems,
advance super high speed missiles / laser / railgun / particle beam etc.

using Tu22-M3 ? Ash, after all.

Lol,china gonna bomb USA?that would never happen.
Who told you we are not gonna bomb small countries like iraq?

 

[GR!FF!N]

> < zzz very very sleepy ...

bomber is not out-dated but only aerospace + stealth + unmanned bomber is meaningful to China.

we are not going to bombing countries like Iraq,
once China get involved in a war, no matter we people wish to or not,
the possible "enemy" can be very very strong
and equiping super advanced anti air weapon systems,
advance super high speed missiles / laser / railgun / particle beam etc.

using Tu22-M3 ? Ash, after all.

lol...Bombers are cheap way to bomb any target,and ever heard about SEAD operations??bomber never goes to bomb a target before aerial threats and sarface to Air missiles have been taken care of..advanced anti air weapons system can kill stealth targets(depending upon RCS and all) too..thats why SEAD operations are performed.

 

[Princess]

neither is the B-52 or the Tu-95..but they have their uses...

You're right.

but in those tasks, old old old H-6 (Tu-16?) bomber is fine.
China is not a aggressive country
unless we feel our land on current map (same a 1949 version) is going to missing again.

In fact we had lost over 200 million sq km land after 1840, so what?

Pouring murdering bombs on other countries ?
For dream of central empire?
Why should we spent budgets on those stupid ugly things?

There are conflicts on Southern China Sea,
Chinese want oil ! many people said...

But, sorry, no, most people here only want to
protect our sea land clearly shown on our 1949 map.

Sea land of China is very small even compare to Japan,
We can not lose anymore.

The oil companies are selling
high priced fuel to Chinese people,
Their interest? Who care?

 

[for truth]

H-6 can carry missiles quite well. Which is exactly what Tu-22 does.

carrying the missile is not the only thing Tu-22M3 is famous for, in fact, what it is truly famous for is its variable swept wing, this helps it fly at very low altitudes and there by avoiding detection from the enemy radars, and when it gets close to the target, it rises up to attack, there by making an instant surprise attack. this is the reason why the american aircraft carriers feared the Tu-22M3, and the Chinese H-6 cannot undertake this complex mission.

 

[nForce]

You're right.

but in those tasks, old old old H-6 (Tu-16?) bomber is fine.
China is not a aggressive country
unless we feel our land on current map (same a 1949 version) is going to missing again.

In fact we had lost over 200 million sq km land after 1840, so what?

Pouring murdering bombs on other countries ?
For dream of central empire?
Why should we spent budgets on those stupid ugly things?

There are conflicts on Southern China Sea,
Chinese want oil ! many people said...

But, sorry, no, most people here only want to
protect our sea land clearly shown on our 1949 map.

Sea land of China is very small even compare to Japan,
We can not lose anymore.

The oil companies are selling
high priced fuel to Chinese people,
Their interest? Who care?

not exactly related to the topic,but,just going through your post,I cannot help thinking that we do need to get some stable alternatives to fossil fuels,else lots of lives will be in danger,sooner or later.Afterall,all that we want is to lead a happy,calm and peaceful life.

 

[for truth]

> < zzz very very sleepy ...

bomber is not out-dated but only aerospace + stealth + unmanned bomber is meaningful to China.

we are not going to bombing countries like Iraq,
once China get involved in a war, no matter we people wish to or not,
the possible "enemy" can be very very strong
and equiping super advanced anti air weapon systems,
advance super high speed missiles / laser / railgun / particle beam etc.

using Tu22-M3 ? Ash, after all.

i don't think these technologies can be mastered by any nation in this entire decade,but if the Chinese are working on these, than i wish them all the best.

 

[northeast]

You're right.

but in those tasks, old old old H-6 (Tu-16?) bomber is fine.
China is not a aggressive country
unless we feel our land on current map (same a 1949 version) is going to missing again.

In fact we had lost over 200 million sq km land after 1840, so what?

Pouring murdering bombs on other countries ?
For dream of central empire?
Why should we spent budgets on those stupid ugly things?

There are conflicts on Southern China Sea,
Chinese want oil ! many people said...

But, sorry, no, most people here only want to
protect our sea land clearly shown on our 1949 map.

Sea land of China is very small even compare to Japan,
We can not lose anymore.

The oil companies are selling
high priced fuel to Chinese people,
Their interest? Who care?

With this mentality,china would never become a super power.But the world need a police,no matter it's good or evil.What if another saddam hussain rose in the middle east?and put all middle east in his control,then only sell oil to those countries who support him?So I guess if China can't do it,then US would still remain the biggest superpower in the coming hundreds of years and gain massive profit from its superior military power.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

With this mentality,china would never become a super power.But the world need a police,no matter it's good or evil.What if another saddam hussain rose in the middle east?and put all middle east in his control,then only sell oil to those countries who support him?So I guess if China can't do it,then US would still remain the biggest superpower in the coming hundreds of years and gain massive profit from its superior military power.

Who said that we are only defensive?

Of course our stealth (possibly supersonic) bomber is on the way by 2016.

And what's point to develop the high end anti-missile technology such as KKV/MKV and space laser?

We are also seeking the absolute military superiority over others.

CPC is naturally aggressive. Unlikely that eunuch KMT, CPC remains low profile when it does not have enough power.

 

[Princess]

lol...Bombers are cheap way to bomb any target,and ever heard about SEAD operations??bomber never goes to bomb a target before aerial threats and sarface to Air missiles have been taken care of..advanced anti air weapons system can kill stealth targets(depending upon RCS and all) too..thats why SEAD operations are performed.

I afraid the "enemies" are too advanced (can kill most stealth bomber/ICBMs )
in that case, SEAD operations are impossible to be accomplished

The solution will be,

1. automatic nuclear missile luncher under deep ocean near enemies' coast
2. smuggling nuclear devices to enemies important locations, and controlled by wireless network
3. ultra high speed space bomber/warheads
4. bio / virus

we hate war. but protective tools are necessary.
only when others know, war is dangerous, they will return to peaceful talk