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China to impose sanctions against US

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What's wrong in it, you guys also doing same and infect change Israeli policy to get benefit from Israel.
Its not this reason, India should Logically stand with Israel and Israel Logically stand with India
We are natural partners, not making partnership for some advantage.
It was bad pity politics of congress which for Muslim vote bank doing illogical things, dont worry now they are Kicked out.
 
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Pfft. Sanctions limited to weapons suppliers, who don't sell to China anyhow. Or is China purchasing US weapons on the side somewhere??

Symbolic action only.

I don't think it's symbolic action. When America is eager to sell weapons to China in future, these sanctions will be a card to make the deal.
 
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is boeing and GE on the list?yes

No they are not. The sanctions are only against Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon, both of whom do minimal business with China.

Also, the only business that they do is technology collaboration in specific fields, which is actually in the interest of China.

This is from another thread where I posted:

China sanctioned Lockheed Martin, and Raytheon.

But I consider it to be unwise, because all possible collaboration with them would be useful, as they are two firms with highly advanced technologies.

For example, this project would now fail:

Lockheed Martin Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion · Environmental Leader · Environmental Management News

And this:

Lockheed Martin extends Chinese nuclear cooperation

This above was specially valuable, because China was getting top notch nuclear civil technology, derived from its huge experience in military naval propulsion.

Lockheed Martin is essentially training Chinese engineers, and scientists in making nuclear safety automation equipment.

Lockheed goes global to build its nuclear business | Dallas Morning News

Of course, China would like to ban and sanction them, but it is going to hurt China, because it would prefer to have such a kind of access to the same engineers who are making some of the most intricate nuclear systems in the world.

Source: Exposed: Obama's Plan to Arm Taiwan | Page 2
 
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it is only 1.9b usd, so Chian will react correspondingly.

Technology Savi technology is a subsidiary of Martin Lockheed.in China its branch is located in Shanghai. How can there be no business ? the sanctions to the parent company of course leads to its subsidiary.

same for boeing and GE, so many business there in China, for one instance , it is easy to know how many and what kind of radars in Chinese air port used from them.

certainly, China will not cancel 100b usd plane buying form boeing or other needed projects, but some real reaction will come in the near future though may not seen on the newpaper.

if you are so interesting, please check out why Babcock sold its shipbuilding sibsidiary when it went to bankcrupt ini 2012 during the time it build submarine for tw.

and last, don't forget, there are lots of part these military company used in their weapons now are made in China. not long ago , an india c130 crashed, and they blamed Chinese parts used in the plane, but who make the c130?


据台湾媒体报道,美国一直希望通过德国的造船厂向台湾出售潜艇,近日,德国巴伯寇克公司(Babcock)表示,它将把德国哈德威船厂的最后四分之一股权卖给美商OEP(One Equity Partners)。

据了解,美商OEP在今年三月,第一次买下巴伯寇克公司手上25%哈德威船厂的股份,当时美方的代价是承接巴伯寇克公司三亿欧元的债务。而在这之前,OEP就已经直接从哈德威船厂接下了50%的股权。OEP对巴伯寇克公司的第二波收购,据称是接下巴伯寇克公司两亿七千四百万欧元的债务,另外再支付该公司“上千万欧元现金”。巴伯寇克破产程序管理人史密兹表示,光是OEP答应债务承接一项,就已经比先前提高了25%的议价价码,这样的交易确实使巴伯寇克的债权人获益。

据悉,这件事却可能另起风波,关系人威瑟·布拉特(Wyser-Pratte)对德国世界报表示,将以法律程序阻止OEP搜购哈德威船厂的股权。据称其已经向杜意森堡地方法院声请买卖暂停处分的强制执行,以阻止巴伯寇克公司在破产程序进行前,进行其第二波对OEP的股权出售。

Did IAF’s 'US-made' C-130J Super Hercules that crashed have fake Chinese parts? - Times of India

WASHINGTON: India's newly-acquired American C-130J Super Hercules plane that crashed last week near Gwalior has been under intense scrutiny in the United States and Canada after a Senate investigation concluded that counterfeit parts in the aircraft's display systems could cause it to "lose data or even go blank altogether" in midflight, with potentially catastrophic consequences.A 2011-2012 investigation by the US Senate armed services committee eventually traced the counterfeit electronic parts used in the C-130J, C-27J, and many other US military systems to a company in Shenzhen, China, called Hong Dark Electronic Trade Company. Hong Dark sold the parts at issue to Global IC Trading Group, an independent distributor in the US, which in turn sold it to L-3 Communications Display Systems, which in turn supplied it to Lockheed Martin, the US military's prime contractor for the C-130J.

Amid scathing observations by the Senate panel, the US air force suspended and banned Hong Dark in 2012 from competing for government contracts and subcontracts, but testimony before the armed services committee showed stunning lapses in the supply chain and procurement procedures for the military systems, including the C-130J Super Hercules, six of which New Delhi contracted to buy in 2010 for $1.1 billion, around Rs 1000 crores apiece.

India has plans to buys six more to augment its transport fleet with the much-acclaimed aircraft, which has won plaudits for its safety record and its versatility. The acquisition enables the Indian military to put boots and supplies on the ground in remote and inhospitable terrain, giving it matchless reach in the region.
 
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Don't forget that China is the biggest player in component and spare parts supply chain, even for US military contractors. China can withhold components, chips or materials, like rare earth metals, that these company need.
Please...:rolleyes:

Did you know that back in the Cold War, Lockheed set up shell companies to buy titanium from the Soviet Union, used the metal to build the SR-71, which then was used to spy on the Warsaw Pact and China ?

The sanctions aren't necessarily going to hurt US or these companies much but it is a sign of times that China can and will do these kinds of things now.
A sanction regime is voluntary. China cannot force anyone else to join. China can persuade or even bribe countries to join, but unless the argument is persuasive enough and/or the bribe is large enough, China will be alone.

China doesn't need Western companies in their country for technological know-how anymore,...
Yeah...Tell that to the thousands of Western experts Chinese companies continues to hire, either as employees or contractors, to help China's technology growth.

Another slap in the face of americans, they need to get used to it.
More like from an annoying yapping little child.
 
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Its not this reason, India should Logically stand with Israel and Israel Logically stand with India
We are natural partners, not making partnership for some advantage.
It was bad pity politics of congress which for Muslim vote bank doing illogical things, dont worry now they are Kicked out.

And who decide what is legal and what is not legal LAMO excuse. They are doing State terrorism and they are your natural partner in crime.
 
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And who decide what is legal and what is not legal LAMO excuse. They are doing State terrorism and they are your natural partner in crime.
Dont take it -vely, India always oppose anything wrong committed by anyone at least speak against it , Here I meant about working together to fight terrorism and defense Technology.
 
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it is only 1.9b usd, so Chian will react correspondingly.

Technology Savi technology is a subsidiary of Martin Lockheed.in China its branch is located in Shanghai. How can there be no business ? the sanctions to the parent company of course leads to its subsidiary.

same for boeing and GE, so many business there in China, for one instance , it is easy to know how many and what kind of radars in Chinese air port used from them.

certainly, China will not cancel 100b usd plane buying form boeing or other needed projects, but some real reaction will come in the near future though may not seen on the newpaper.

if you are so interesting, please check out why Babcock sold its shipbuilding sibsidiary when it went to bankcrupt ini 2012 during the time it build submarine for tw.

and last, don't forget, there are lots of part these military company used in their weapons now are made in China. not long ago , an india c130 crashed, and they blamed Chinese parts used in the plane, but who make the c130?


据台湾媒体报道,美国一直希望通过德国的造船厂向台湾出售潜艇,近日,德国巴伯寇克公司(Babcock)表示,它将把德国哈德威船厂的最后四分之一股权卖给美商OEP(One Equity Partners)。

据了解,美商OEP在今年三月,第一次买下巴伯寇克公司手上25%哈德威船厂的股份,当时美方的代价是承接巴伯寇克公司三亿欧元的债务。而在这之前,OEP就已经直接从哈德威船厂接下了50%的股权。OEP对巴伯寇克公司的第二波收购,据称是接下巴伯寇克公司两亿七千四百万欧元的债务,另外再支付该公司“上千万欧元现金”。巴伯寇克破产程序管理人史密兹表示,光是OEP答应债务承接一项,就已经比先前提高了25%的议价价码,这样的交易确实使巴伯寇克的债权人获益。

据悉,这件事却可能另起风波,关系人威瑟·布拉特(Wyser-Pratte)对德国世界报表示,将以法律程序阻止OEP搜购哈德威船厂的股权。据称其已经向杜意森堡地方法院声请买卖暂停处分的强制执行,以阻止巴伯寇克公司在破产程序进行前,进行其第二波对OEP的股权出售。

Did IAF’s 'US-made' C-130J Super Hercules that crashed have fake Chinese parts? - Times of India

WASHINGTON: India's newly-acquired American C-130J Super Hercules plane that crashed last week near Gwalior has been under intense scrutiny in the United States and Canada after a Senate investigation concluded that counterfeit parts in the aircraft's display systems could cause it to "lose data or even go blank altogether" in midflight, with potentially catastrophic consequences.A 2011-2012 investigation by the US Senate armed services committee eventually traced the counterfeit electronic parts used in the C-130J, C-27J, and many other US military systems to a company in Shenzhen, China, called Hong Dark Electronic Trade Company. Hong Dark sold the parts at issue to Global IC Trading Group, an independent distributor in the US, which in turn sold it to L-3 Communications Display Systems, which in turn supplied it to Lockheed Martin, the US military's prime contractor for the C-130J.

Amid scathing observations by the Senate panel, the US air force suspended and banned Hong Dark in 2012 from competing for government contracts and subcontracts, but testimony before the armed services committee showed stunning lapses in the supply chain and procurement procedures for the military systems, including the C-130J Super Hercules, six of which New Delhi contracted to buy in 2010 for $1.1 billion, around Rs 1000 crores apiece.

India has plans to buys six more to augment its transport fleet with the much-acclaimed aircraft, which has won plaudits for its safety record and its versatility. The acquisition enables the Indian military to put boots and supplies on the ground in remote and inhospitable terrain, giving it matchless reach in the region.

LAMO. What about quality control? which US always drums about and says that they are the best. If they failed in their quality check then that is their problem

Dont take it -vely, India always oppose anything wrong committed by anyone at least speak against it , Here I meant about working together to fight terrorism and defense Technology.

Do be all is well guy and try to see other side of mirror to understand batter.
 
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