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China Threatens to Turn Taiwan Into Another Lebanon

You are not understanding the point I have made.

It is not about Taiwan but about who ultimately controls the planet.

USA will risk thousands of casualties to stay on top. Again, nuclear weapons will not be involved as China will get a massive beating and go back into it's E Asian box.
Bangladesh knows China will drop a nuke on New York the moment US tries to stop our invasion on Taiwan. Just like Bangladesh knows if you try to attack Burma over Rohingyas our nukes will wipe out Dhaka in half an hour. That's why you don't even lift a finger for the Rohingyas and just watch them get ethnic cleansed.
 
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Bangladesh knows China will drop a nuke on New York the moment US tries to stop our invasion on Taiwan. Just like Bangladesh knows if you try to attack Burma over Rohingyas our nukes will wipe out Dhaka in half an hour. That's why you don't even lift a finger for the Rohingyas and just watch them get ethnic cleansed.


No, BD does not think that.
 
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Just like Bangladesh knows if you try to attack Burma over Rohingyas our nukes will wipe out Dhaka in half an hour.

What a utterly stupid thing to say. You realise you have stated NFU for even nuclear power (and we are talking non-nuclear one, that too over a 3rd party scenario)?

How you are still on this forum is both amusing and depressing.
 
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First of all this article is written by American authors for a very anti-China website. Only to make the China haters feel even more hate. They do this by taking statements out of their context.

Whoever thinks any gang on this planet can today beat China to a pulp and not be wiped out by hydrogen bombs delivered by ICBM, SLBM, and also by hypersonic and cruise missiles? Sure if such case happens, China is definitely non exist anymore and wiped out by thousands of nukes like the China haters dream about, but in reality whoever wants to even suggest that will have war the next day Whoever actually does that will also die and be wiped out. Nuclear weapons? Of course. Chemical + Bio + neutron bomb all coming your way too. Have you noticed USA never once dared to even suggest war with China after Korean war. Not a single time. This is why there will be no ganging up to fight China. They will promise the fate that everyone including themselves and China will die horrible death. China has no restriction on Uranium enrichment and plenty of supply to even exceed Russia and USA stockpile within a few years. It's pointless already to keep spending so much on keeping nuclear weapons around during non tension times. If war is being threatened, defense budget can go up to 20% GDP and even if we only build warheads and detonate inside China, no one will see the sun for the short time they have left before radiation poisoning. The only real hubris here is the people who think USA + gang can afford to even threaten China. Already that they cannot dare. To fight... ahhh they are in a dream.

Also nobody knows if Taiwan can hold China for 1 year or 1 hour. You definitely have no clue. I think they can hold for about 1 day and then will fall... most likely less. They cannot stop the thousands of cruise missiles already. How can they stop the hundreds of ballistic missiles too? Then the fighters and bombers. Then the land invasion? Truth is China keeps warning Taiwan from announcing independence as China. We are okay with Taiwan as it is. We are not okay with Taiwan saying they are real China officially. Because it then becomes that they are real legitimate China and Chinese government. Then what about the over 1 billion Chinese people on the mainland? You see. This is political, historical, and philosophic identity matters. China will not invade Taiwan. We do not want war, especially against our family. We do want peaceful reunification with Taiwan in future williing to rejoin the future Chinese system and evolved government. Maybe that will take time but we have time. As long as in this time, Taiwan doesn't feel too high and declare themselves as independent legitimate China and continuation of Chinese government since pre-cultural revolution. This author of this article is again having political agenda to flame the tension.

For Taiwanese F-16? How many do they have? They need airfields and missiles. How many missiles can they carry in one go? How much support? How about reloading? Even if each missile finds a J-7 target or even say a J-20 or J-16 or J-10C, how will they land onto a destroyed airfield that took 100 bombs + 20 cruise missiles + 2 ballistic missiles? Come on. Even this is worst case possibility for China side. In reality, J-10A already good enough to match F-16 in RCAF. Maybe if they receive F-21 it's different story but they still don't have unlimited missiles and safe bases. You make it sound like F-16 is wonder weapon. Even if Taiwan and China have war and Taiwan has 100 F-22. It will not change the result. PLAAF will take much more damage but F-22 alone also run on fuel also has limit to payload also has limited range and time in air also has limited readiness maybe even less than 50% also requires a day of maintenance for a few days of action. These are amazing weapons but they are not one wonder weapon to change everything.

Good post, but this forum and blogs are just rhetoric in the end anyway. Sometimes I have realised its not worth spending too much time explaining realities.
 
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Lol @ Chinese keyboard warriors thinking they can beat Taiwan in 1 day.
Military experts think it can take around 1 year to overcome Taiwan's defences.
People need to look at how difficult it is to destroy hardened shelters. Taiwan has an airfield inside a mountain!
Luckily for China, it's leaders know the reality and so will just do nothing to Taiwan.
 
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No I am not.

USA > China > Russia in fighter aircraft technology.

February 27th just proved that Russian aircraft are overrated.

Only Chinese aircraft that can beat F-16V is J-20 as it has stealth features.
No way China is above RUssia in AIrcraft technology. China has better drone technology than Russia though, but regarding manned aircraft, i dont believe China is ahead of Russia.
 
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China Threatens to Turn Taiwan Into Another Lebanon
Beijing has a warning for Taiwan: toe the line or we’ll do to you what Israel has done to Lebanon—bomb you to pieces.

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Beijing has a warning for Taiwan: toe the line or we’ll do to you what Israel has done to Lebanon—bomb you to pieces.

That warning came after U.S. national security adviser John Bolton complained that Chinese J-11 fighters crossed the middle line of the Taiwan Strait, which somewhat unofficially demarcates control of the waters between China and Taiwan. It marked the first time in almost twenty years that Chinese aircraft have done this, with Taiwanese fighters scrambling to intercept them.

China’s pro-government Global Times newspaper predictably denounced the U.S. denunciation, taking aim at several occasions over the last year—and most recently in March—when U.S. warships passed through the Taiwan Straits to dispute China’s assertion that it has sovereignty over the waterway (and Taiwan island, too).

“Washington is choosing the wrong place, time and opponent to flex its muscle in Taiwan Straits,” warned Global Times. If the U.S. military stations forces in Taiwan, China will attack, the article said. If the U.S. sells advanced fighters like the F-16V to Taiwan, the People’s Liberation Army will respond.

What’s interesting are what those responses might be. “The PLA has many choices, including crossing the ‘middle line,’ flying over the Taiwan island and even turn Taiwan into a Lebanon-like situation,” the newspaper said. “These choices don't necessarily lead to war. They are enough to force Taiwan authorities to readjust their radical policies.”


But what exactly does “turn Taiwan into a Lebanon-like situation” mean? The name “Lebanon” has become a byword for a couple of highly unpleasant fates for a nation. One is vicious civil war, when a country disintegrates into a homicidal mosaic of feuding ethnic, religious and political factions. The Lebanese Civil War raged from 1975 to 1990 and killed 150,000 people.

But it’s unlikely that China could punish Taiwan by fomenting civil war (Lebanon was a tinderbox waiting to explode). It’s more likely that Global Times meant the other meaning of “Lebanon,” which is a state that is constantly pummeled by its more powerful neighbor.

Beginning in the 1960s, Israeli jets and commandos entered Lebanon to target Palestinian militant groups. In 1978 and 1982, Israel launched ground invasions and occupied southern Lebanon for twenty years. Now it is the turn of Syria, which has been hammered for the last couple of years by hundreds of Israeli air strikes on Iranian forces in the country.

Is the suggestion that Chinese aircraft and missiles will do the same by hitting Taiwan at will, if Beijing is displeased by Taiwanese actions such as hosting U.S. forces or buying new fighter aircraft? “China could punish perceived Taiwanese misbehavior at will (presumably with air and missile strikes) as Israel has done in the past with targets in Lebanon,” RAND Corp. analyst Andrew Scobell told the National Interest.

“What Global Times meant is that the Chinese PLA has overwhelming advantages against Taiwan's armed forces that a fight between the two would resemble a fight between the Israel Defense Forces and Hezbollah in Lebanon,” said Adam Ni, an expert on the Chinese military. “The assumption is that the PLA would bring Taiwan to its knees, through air and missile strikes, airborne operations, amphibious invasion, cyberattacks, and blockades.”

But if that’s the assumption, then Chinese hardliners are missing the point of “Lebanonization.”

The Israelis could hit Lebanese territory for decades because the Lebanese state was too weak to do anything more than protest. With rise of the Iranian-armed Lebanese group Hezbollah and its arsenal of rockets aimed at Israel, those raids have mostly stopped (though Israeli aircraft still overfly Lebanon). Syria today can’t do much more than fire some anti-aircraft missiles at Israeli planes, because the Syrian military is too weak to engage in a war with Israel.

Taiwan’s military is vastly overmatched by its neighbor China. Yet for a smaller island nation, Taiwan packs a fairly respectable military punch. More important, it’s backed by the United States, which has poured much prestige into Taiwan’s security.

China certainly has the capability to use force against Taiwan. But unlike Lebanon and Syria, Taiwan and the United States can hit back.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/china-threatens-turn-taiwan-another-lebanon-52162

Lebanon is the only modern state which successfully repulsed and punished Israel. Salute to this brave nation.

China should stop insulting Lebanon immediately.
 
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Lebanon is the only modern state which successfully repulsed and punished Israel. Salute to this brave nation.

China should stop insulting Lebanon immediately.

Global Times is known for this type of petty rhetoric hence its worth is toliet paper I really dont see the PRC invading Taiwan anytime soon it will just play the long game and will take over when Taiwan is compeltely isolated
 
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Lol @ Chinese hubris.

F-16V is a match for anything that the Chinese has bar the J-20.

Taiwan can defend itself till US/Japan jump in to teach China a hard lesson.

What's the use of F-16V when all the island's airfield is in easy reach.
 
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The US, and NATO can at best do lip service. There will not be a US military intervention if China attacks.

But could sanction the Chinese, and that'll be all. China will take control of Taiwan at the expense of a lot of Mama's one Child though, Taiwan is no pushover.
 
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What a utterly stupid thing to say. You realise you have stated NFU for even nuclear power (and we are talking non-nuclear one, that too over a 3rd party scenario)?

How you are still on this forum is both amusing and depressing.
LOL do you really believe in NFU? It's just some pretty words. When China starts to make our enemies bleed, we don't stop until there's a river of blood.

Lebanon is the only modern state which successfully repulsed and punished Israel. Salute to this brave nation.

China should stop insulting Lebanon immediately.
The comparison with Lebanon is poorly chosen. The point intended is Beijing will use strategic bombing instead of amphibious invasion. The former is less risky.

The US will try to intervene and they will get a big surprise while doing so! Look at how surprised they were when PLAAF crossed the median line of the Taiwan straits as a demonstration of force.
 
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