China takes rights activists into custody

[Chinese-Dragon]

I have to wonder why Indian dislike the Chinese so much? The british divided Indian make you slave by using divide and conquer tactic, so even now you are seeing the result. You should be mad at the British.

They love the British, and hate us.

I guess we should be thankful, that our strategic rivals across the Himalayas are not that great with logic.

 

[Aramsogo]

are you there ??

And you were???? And who cares?? Deng made the right decision.
Otherwise there would be as many people starving in China today as India.

 

[asianamerican]

WTF is wrong with you people. I was trying to find out what Chinese think about this and all I see is 30 pages of useless bantering by Indian and Chinese. India is a hole worst than China. India should admit this fact. Wealth Indian billionaire live London and the rest of the poor India live in slums. India is still pissed over the border war, but the British are the one who split up their country and used divided and conquer tactic on them. Why do India even care about China.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Personally we Americans like our bull testicles

You're only a man when you take balls in your mouth and isn't worried whether people think you're gay.

 

[Jigs]

How 'dumb' is the masses is not the issue. Who is in control of the media -- is the issue? And am willing to bet that the UN's definition of WMD will put you off your seat...

We certainly saw who controlled the U.S. media during the davis and wikileaks events. If it was this bad under a liberal administration who knows what the conservatives had implemented.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Yes as were most immigrants to America at the time.

I'm so glad you approve of Race discrimination laws that America itself apologized for.

I'm sure they would have treated Indians who were still colonized much better.

Some link for apology that was given. Or is it a chinese daydream and propaganda as usual?

What is an apology?

The Pope has apologised to the Jews.

Has it returned those exterminated in the gas chambers to life?

It is another popular PC way to get out of a Gordian Knot.

Totally meaningless.

Even now the make fun of the Chinese.

check this out:

Limbaugh Mocks Chinese President's Untranslated Speech | Media Matters for America

It is the untranslated speech of the Chinese Communist President.

American government needs your money. You are the kind who pays them good money and don't run away from taxes.

And China requires US foodgrains to feed its starving millions.

India does not import foodgrains, but exports.

Why was it that Chinese were allowed into America, more than a hundred years before the Indians were?

Chinese were starving in China and so they came in with a beggar's bowl and the Whiteman's Christian compassion allowed them to hang around. And the best part was they came dirt cheap as labour!!

Chinese were ready to do servant's work, cook, wash clothes and so on, and who does not like having a servant to do the menial work!

Indians came in later as educated chaps.

Tiger balm selling is not considered as being doctors- retail clerks is more apt. and you most definitely made fun of US soldiers death and now are back tracking. don't worry refugee status is not yet jeopardized boy..

The Communists are famous to plant sleeper agents. if one recalls, the Russian ones were exposed.

And so were some Chinese who worked as moles in sensitive US industries.

You're preaching to the wrong person. American citizen here. You should be licking the ground I walk on. After all we are the definition of democracy and India well is not.

You're disadvantage is that you don't have a adequate excuse for why India can support its people in food but due to a combination of government corruption and ineptitude millions still starve to death every year.

As American as the Chinese Apple pie!!

American?

Descendant of laundry men and houseboys!

Had any flied lice, you plick? That is what they say in the US. I don't know that exactly that means.

Seen the video of the Chinese President's speech in the US?

I have appended it above again,

Check it out!

Chinese people have been in America a lot longer than Indians have.

You're more likely to be a refugee than he is.

Obviously the Chinese were there.

Cheap labour!

They still are cheap!

You should be teaching him English before attempting Chinese pal. That alone would be quite a task.

A Chinese boy teaching English!!

Laugh of the century.

get the accent right first so that someone can understand.

Flied lice is good in Chinese cuisine.

You might as well be swimming in a river of Cow piss for how hard you try to act American. You're real country of India is the truly piss poor country in any comparison. Don't you get it my little B**ch, go home and take your cow excrement with you.

Americans can get over casualties of War unlike India.

You know that you could get an infraction for stating things about cow piss.

Want to see?

Just say it again and then stand by.

We don't eat larvae, grub, snake, dogs, cats, gonads, entrails, blood, maggots etc. Vampires and low species may do.

Such uneducated Indian citizenry. Dog eating is illegal in China. Feel free to make stereotypic crap as usual though. Shoot even dogs in China eat better than Indians.

Really Dog eating is illegal. How about this:

Eating dog is an idea that most Westerners find rather distasteful, but to some Chinese it’s no different from eating sheep or pigs. Outside the big cities hardly anyone keeps dogs as pets and most people can’t afford to be overly sentimental which may be why they haven’t developed the ‘can’t eat that’ status that they have in the West.

Chinese for ‘Dog Meat’

If you want to be quite sure, the crucial character to watch out for is 狗 (gǒu – dog) of 狗肉 (gǒuròu – dog meat). 我不吃狗肉 (Wǒ bù chī gǒuròu) means ‘I don’t eat dog meat’. Make sure you stress the 不/bù.

Dog’s penis, like many other kinds of animal penis, is used in Chinese medicine. It is believed to boost a person’s Yang, and therefore might be useful to men suffering from impotence.
Beijing Made Easy | Chinese Food | Dog Meat

so, quit telling falsehood as a part of the 50 cent army activity.

 

[Gene]

And you were???? And who cares?? Deng made the right decision.
Otherwise there would be as many people starving in China today as India.

oh yes,,the public killings were the right decision..

Otherwise there would be as many people starving in China today as India....can you prove this ???

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

The Chinese Love penis!

and eat it too!!

What Tongzhis!

Comrades to the Penis!

Obviously there is no starvation!

Adequate penises available in China, I presume.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

You sure know how to win a argument all alright Ray. You respond to everyone in such a long post filled with crap that no one would be bored enough to respond.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Love penis!

and eat it too!!

What Tongzhis!

Comrades to the Penis!

Your anatomy knowledge is pitiable. testicles are not the same as penis's. Go eat some more sheep fetus my little B**ch

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You sure know how to win a argument all alright Ray. You respond to everyone in such a long post filled with crap that no one would be bored enough to respond.

LOL, what about his epic "penis" post above.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

LOL, what about his epic "penis" post above.

Feel sorry for him. Can't tell the difference between a penis and testicles its been in his mouth so often.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Feel sorry for him. Can't tell the difference between a penis and testicles its been in his mouth so often.

LOL....

 

[Aramsogo]

oh yes,,the public killings were the right decision..

Otherwise there would be as many people starving in China today as India....can you prove this ???

Sure, try getting out of your gated high-rise overlooking that slum.

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February 11, 2011
Galloping Growth, and Hunger in India
By VIKAS BAJAJ
BAMNOD, India — The 50-year-old farmer knew from experience that his onion crop was doomed when torrential rains pounded his fields throughout September, a month when the Indian monsoon normally peters out.

For lack of modern agricultural systems in this part of rural India, his land does not have adequate drainage trenches, and he has no safe, dry place to store onions. The farmer, Arun Namder Talele, said he lost 70 percent of his onion crop on his five-acre farm here, about 70 miles north of the western city of Aurangabad.

“There are no limits to my losses,” Mr. Talele said.

Mr. Talele’s misfortune, and that of many other farmers here, is a grim reminder of a persistent fact: India, despite its ambitions as an emerging economic giant, still struggles to feed its 1.1 billion people.

Four decades after the Green Revolution seemed to be solving India’s food problems, nearly half of Indian children age 5 or younger are malnourished. And soaring food prices, a problem around the world, are especially acute in India.

Globally, floods in Australia and drought in China have helped send food prices everywhere soaring — on fears the world will see a repeat of shortages in 2007 and 2008 that caused food riots in some poor countries, including Egypt.

While India’s agricultural problems are part of this bigger global puzzle, in many ways India’s food challenges are more entrenched and systemic than those faced elsewhere.

Western investors may take eager note of India’s economic growth rate of nearly 9 percent a year. But that statistic rings hollow in India’s vast rural areas. Agriculture employs more than half the population, but it accounts for only 15 percent of the economy — and it has grown an average of only about 3 percent in recent years.

Critics say Indian policy makers have failed to follow up on the country’s investments in agricultural technology of the 1960s and ’70s, as they focused on more glamorous, urban industries like information technology, financial services and construction.

There is no agribusiness of the type known in the United States, with highly mechanized farms growing thousands of acres of food crops, because Indian laws and customs bar corporations from farming land directly for food crops. The laws also make it difficult to assemble large land holdings.

Yet even as India’s farming still depends on manual labor and the age-old vicissitudes of nature, demand for food has continued to rise — because of a growing population and rising incomes, especially in the middle and upper classes. As a result, India is importing ever greater amounts of some staples like beans and lentils (up 157 percent from 2004 to 2009) and cooking oil (up 68 percent in the same period).

Food prices are rising faster in India than in almost any other major economy — and faster than they did during the 2007-8 surge.

In December 2010, India’s food prices jumped 13.7 from the year earlier, while inflation for all commodities, heavily weighted by the food number, stood at 8.4 percent.

A snapshot number released in mid-January showed Indian food prices rising even faster — more than 17 percent over the same period in 2009 — as the cost of onions, fruit, eggs, milk and other commodities rose.

Food inflation hits especially hard here because Indians — most of whom live on less than $2 a day — spend a bigger portion of their disposable incomes on food than people in other big, developing economies like China and Brazil.

“This is the worst form of taxation on the poorest of the poor,” said Ashok Gulati, Asia director for the International Food Policy Research Institute.

Indian government officials have scrambled to make up the shortage of vegetables like onions by importing them. These short-term efforts have helped; onions are now available at 20 rupees a kilo (about 20 cents a pound) in Mumbai, down more than 70 percent from their recent highs.

But experts say the widening gap between agriculture’s anemic supply and the rising demand for food calls for fundamental changes in farming policies.

During the Green Revolution the government invested heavily in rural agriculture, with an emphasis on hybrid seeds, fertilizers and irrigation canals.

More recent policy makers have not built on that early success. Most Indian farmers still do not have irrigation systems, and waste and inefficiency have severely depleted precious ground water.

Although many farmers have access to free or subsidized electricity that can be used to pump water, few receive power for more than a few hours a day. Mr. Talele, the farmer in Bamnod, gets only four hours of electricity during the day and four hours at night. During those periods he pumps well water that he then floods into his fields because he cannot afford the sprinklers or drip irrigation that would more efficiently and effectively water his crops.

And rural India has far too few temperature-controlled warehouses that could help farmers and the nation build up reserves as a hedge against poor growing seasons.

When Mr. Talele’s vegetables are ready for harvest he immediately takes them to wholesale markets, which are controlled by committees of local traders. “Whatever the market decides, that’s the price we get,” he said.

Indian officials acknowledge that the country needs to increase investment in irrigation, encourage competition in wholesale and retail markets, and provide targeted food subsidies to the poor. And they also have to provide more education and jobs to villagers, so fewer people are forced to live off the land.

Experts say India needs to make changes like some of the ones China made, beginning in the late 1970s, when it started investing heavily in agriculture and eased regulations on farming.

As recently as 1977, Chinese and Indian farmers harvested roughly the same amount of wheat for each acre that they planted. But by 2009, United Nations data shows that wheat yields were 1.7 times higher in China than in India.

Kaushik Basu, a Cornell University professor who is also the chief economic adviser to India’s finance minister, says he now sees more willingness by Indian officials to reform agriculture policies.

But outside experts like Mr. Gulati are skeptical that real change will come from the government. The ruling coalition has been hobbled by corruption scandals, and an energized opposition last year effectively blocked proceedings in Parliament.

Some Indian farmers are investing on their own, finding ways to circumvent the government when necessary and using subsidies when they are available.

About 10 miles from Mr. Talele’s farm in the village of Pahur, Sandeep Ram Karshanbakr’s farming income has jumped to 200,000 rupees ($4,400) a year, from 80,000 rupees ($1,800) three years ago. He credits the improvement to a drip irrigation system he bought from an Indian company, Jain Irrigation.

The government paid half the 128,000 rupees ($2,800) cost of the system. That has cut the amount of water and electricity Mr. Karshanbakr uses by about half on his three acres, while improving yields twofold to fivefold on his crops of chilis, cauliflower, eggplants, tomatoes and cotton.

Mr. Karshanbakr says he is now considering buying or leasing more land. But many farmers, like Mr. Talele, say they simply cannot afford such irrigation equipment — even with government subsidies as high as 50 percent of the sticker price. “It’s still too expensive,” he said.

Anil Jain, managing director at Jain Irrigation, said India needs to help farmers like Mr. Talele invest. “Agriculture can grow at 6 to 8 percent,” he said. “But we have to create opportunity and income in rural areas.”

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: February 16, 2011


A picture caption on Saturday with an article about the failure of India’s agricultural systems to keep pace with its economic and population growth referred incompletely to the harvest that was shown. While the field did contain coriander, the plants shown in the foreground were another leaf vegetable — not coriander, which was planted between the rows and not visible. (A plant being tossed in the air by a worker was coriander.)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

They love the British, and hate us.

I guess we should be thankful, that our strategic rivals across the Himalayas are not that great with logic.

One must understand that Indians are not a mean lot, who carry on their grudges for years like the chinese and their 100+ years of National Shame.

Or like the Hong Kong Chinese whose prosperity that they boast of is because of the British turning a dead fishing village to what it is today. Ungrateful wretches to say the least.

Indians have the goodness to forgive and forget and not be like little forked tongue snakes as some.

Why should one hate the Chinese.

India has enough of them and they are pretty good citizens of this country.

It is a different matter that one find it difficult to reconcile with Chinese communists and their running dogs and roader (Chinese phrase).