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China's Mars probe completes first orbital correction
Source: Xinhua | 2020-08-02 07:30:02 | Editor: huaxia
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-08/02/c_139257979.htm

BEIJING, Aug. 2 (Xinhua) -- China's Mars probe Tianwen-1 successfully carried out its first orbital correction Sunday morning, according to the China National Space Administration.

The probe conducted the orbital correction at 7 a.m. (Beijing Time) after its 3000N engine worked for 20 seconds, and continued to head for Mars. All the systems of the probe were in good condition.
 
This is good though, one of the few good thngs communism produced, they can make things happen faster, whatever the reason.

Advance for humanity, I wish them success.
 
China's Mars probe completes first orbital correction
Source: Xinhua | 2020-08-02 07:30:02 | Editor: huaxia
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-08/02/c_139257979.htm

BEIJING, Aug. 2 (Xinhua) -- China's Mars probe Tianwen-1 successfully carried out its first orbital correction Sunday morning, according to the China National Space Administration.

The probe conducted the orbital correction at 7 a.m. (Beijing Time) after its 3000N engine worked for 20 seconds, and continued to head for Mars. All the systems of the probe were in good condition.
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Congrats to UAE and china for their mars missions.
Exciting times with 3 missions on their way to mars.
I was reading the thread and some confusion regarding payload weight and probe weight.

Probe weight of the Indian mars satellite, which is still sending photos after 5 years , is 500 kg dry, without fuel weight and payload weight.
Weight of payload is 13.5 kg. Payload is the camera, and other 4 instruments on the probe.
China obviously has a much heavier launch capability but its not always a competition.

Also tracking and communication facilities have to be shared by all countries, unless you can station ships in 3 different part of the globe for years.

China is using the European space agencies tracking and navigation facilities, like India used nasa.
China prefers getting help from Europeans for obvious reasons, like for its moon missions too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sp...mission-tianwen-1-international-partners.html
"Tracking support
At the Long March-5 rollout, the booster's protective payload fairing was seen to be adorned with European (ESA), French (CNES), Argentine (CONAE) and Austrian (FFG) space agency logos, in addition to that of the CNSA.
Tianwen-1 will use ESA's Estrack communications network, and in several ways.
Estrack's Kourou ground station, in French Guiana, South America, will follow the mission on departure from China. Extremely precise navigation/trajectory determination, via ESA's stations in Australia and Spain, will also be provided as Tianwen-1 makes its way to Mars. "
Even the rover is getting help from france as in the article.
Argentina's Comisión Nacional de Actividades Espaciales (CONAE) is thought to be tied to Tianwen-1 by way of a Chinese-run tracking station installed in Las Lajas, Argentina. The facility played a role in China's landing of the Chang'e-4 spacecraft on the far side of the moon in January 2019.
The Institute for Research in Astrophysics and Planetology (IRAP) in Toulouse, France is collaborating with China on the Tianwen-1 rover.
CNES is the program manager of this collaboration, Sylvestre Maurice of IRAP told Space.com.
"For their Laser Induced Breakdown Spectroscopy (LIBS) instrument, we have delivered a calibration target that is a French duplicate of a target which is on [NASA's] Curiosity [Mars rover]. The idea is to see how the two datasets compare," Maurice said.
Meanwhile, the Austrian space sector, under the Austrian Research Promotion Agency (FFG), has been reported to aid in the development of a magnetometer installed on the Chinese Mars orbiter.
The Space Research Institute (Institut für Weltraumforschung, IWF) of the Austrian Academy of Sciences in Graz has confirmed the group's contribution to the Tianwen-1 magnetometer and helped with the calibration of the flight instrument, explained Andreas Geisler, head of the FFG Aeronautics and Space Agency."

Seems that nearly everything in this "Chinese " mission has a foreign hand.
 
In 1974 Russia had its first successful soft landing on Mars . Nearly 50 years ago , without the experience of other missions or foreign navigation help. This is real pioneering stuff.
American hype on space is everywhere but it was the Russians who actually had-
First satellite
First man in orbit
First woman in orbit
First space walk
First landing on mars
First space station.

American achievements-
First and only landing of a human on a non earth celestial body. Just think about it. Its 1969 , space technology is very new. And Americans land on the moon.
Inspiring stuff from the pioneers.

After these 2 , Japan has quietly achieved a great success by landing on a asteroid, drilling ,taking samples and in dec 2020 the sample carrying spacecraft will reach the earth. Wow. Its a 6 year mission. Hats off.

India offcourse has a great success with the still running mars orbiter but its main success is in inspiring millions around the world that a 3rd world country can also achieve the near impossible, if it creates islands of excellence. All orher countries were already leaders in technology.

I am sure one day China will also one day do something new and pioneering but for that they have to discard their fear of failure. Not telecasting the mars launch officially was disappointing for us space geeks, till success was assured, not a good sign of transparency.
Space is challenging but its the most interesting frontier.
 
Europe provided a target for comparison and a magnetometer for collaboration. And minimal tracking from Estrack, just like how we also provide tracking services to Ariane launches. How is that exactly All foreign? Look at your Chandrayaan, its almost all foreign components, hell you can't even make a rifle for gods sake. Without NASA deep space tracking, you can't even get there.
Lets not spoil this thread with unnecessary d..k measuring. My point is that all countries need collaboration for deep space navigation. So all the Chinese targeting the Indian mars mission on this thread need to smell the coffee.
I actually had no idea that even for payloads, china had such extensive foreign involvement. You are just a net warrior, as the ongoing Huawei chip episode has revealed, countries have deep dependencies. People actually working on these projects know where they stand
 
In 1974 Russia had its first successful soft landing on Mars . Nearly 50 years ago , without the experience of other missions or foreign navigation help. This is real pioneering stuff.
American hype on space is everywhere but it was the Russians who actually had-
First satellite
First man in orbit
First woman in orbit
First space walk
First landing on mars
First space station.

American achievements-
First and only landing of a human on a non earth celestial body. Just think about it. Its 1969 , space technology is very new. And Americans land on the moon.
Inspiring stuff from the pioneers.

After these 2 , Japan has quietly achieved a great success by landing on a asteroid, drilling ,taking samples and in dec 2020 the sample carrying spacecraft will reach the earth. Wow. Its a 6 year mission. Hats off.

India offcourse has a great success with the still running mars orbiter but its main success is in inspiring millions around the world that a 3rd world country can also achieve the near impossible, if it creates islands of excellence. All orher countries were already leaders in technology.

I am sure one day China will also one day do something new and pioneering but for that they have to discard their fear of failure. Not telecasting the mars launch officially was disappointing for us space geeks, till success was assured, not a good sign of transparency.
Space is challenging but its the most interesting frontier.
You basically sent a Chandrayaan clone using a primitive rocket guided by NASA deep space tracking. I am not against international collaborations for tracking as China also provide tracking for EU in return. The payload of our mission completely dwarfs Indian's mission with a lander and river. EU is providing a target for comparison and a magnetometer for testing, I am not sure that's considered All foreign. Look at Chandrayaan, almost all instruments were foreign.

Check out how many components are there and tell me how does TWO equals Alot of foreign help? We are not Indians ok! Don't degrade us. Lol. Those are international collaborations. Until 2 years ago even your space grade soalr cells had to be imported.
 

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