China starts "combat ready" patrols in disputed seas

[hoangsa]

The best picture for Philippine peoples is : the USS North Carolina open fire and take down 5 RPC battleships...he..he...

 

[rcrmj]

you should worry about your own china.... and give up your false HK and TW flags.

Neither HK and TW people associate themeselves with crappy PRC.

lol``poor Indian kid, the reality has nothing to do with your high caste masters have been feeding you lot```if you want to know the indian 'reputation' around the world, my first advise is to get out the slums

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

Old maps show shoal part of Phl islands
By Pia Lee-Brago (The Philippine Star) Updated June 28, 2012 12:01 AM

MANILA, Philippines - Maps dating back to the early Spanish colonial period, which were the standard references for explorers and travelers and acknowledged by governments and regimes, clearly show Panatag Shoal, also called Panacot, just off the Philippine coast.

The maps are among 134 original maps on exhibit at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

The exhibit, “Three Hundred Years of Philippine Maps,” features maps of the archipelago from 1598 to the American colonial era.

The exhibit is part of the celebration of Philippine-Spanish Friendship Day on June 30.

Fr. Pedro Murillo Velarde’s 18th century “Mapa de las Islas Filipinas” clearly shows Panatag Shoal lying just across Zambales.

The Jesuit Murillo was given the task by Gov. Fernando Valdes Tamon in 1732 to execute a Royal decree on the mapping of the Philippines, which was then a territory of Spain.

Two years later, a complete map of the Philippines was conceived.

The engraver was Nicolas de la Cruz Bagay, described on the bottom of the map as an “indio tagalo.”

A smaller version of the map was made in 1744 and published in Murillo’s 1749 history of the Jesuit province. Fr. Miguel Selga, SJ in his bicentennial monograph in 1934, enumerated 125 important islands found in both maps.

Both show Panatag, then called Panacot. It was also called Bajo de Masinloc.

The plates of Murillo’s map disappeared when British invaders looted Manila in 1762-1764.

The name Bajo de Masinloc was a name given to the shoal by the Spanish colonizers.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

What language are those maps written in?

 

[ao333]

What language are those maps written in?

Don't diss Vietnam. Vietnamese like Gambit, take pride in having their history written in Chinese by Chinese.

 

[S10]

Philippines will stand up to China like a South Vietnamese hooker standing up to American sailors during fleet week in Saigon in 1965.

They will do nothing but like it.

The best picture for Philippine peoples is : the USS North Carolina open fire and take down 5 RPC battleships...he..he...

That's about as likely as me winning the lottory, shagging up Charlize Theron, beat Obama to a pulp, being crowned the world's strongest man and going back in time to kill Osama a day before the Navy Seals on the same day.

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

Official maps of the Yuan Dynasty and Ching
Dynasty, including but not limited to Da Qing Zhi Sheng Quan Tu
(published in 1862) and Huang Chao Yi Tong Yu Di Zen Du (published in
1894), show that the southernmost extent of China ends at Hainan islands

[Huang chao zhi sheng yu di quan tu] /

Hainan's special rocks carved with Chinese characters Tianya-Haijiao means end of the earth. Since the ancient times, a lot of officials and scholars have left their footprints here and carved poems on those rocks standing on the seashore. The phrase carved in stone at its coast is TRUE! It's the self-admission of the Chinese that their terrirory ENDS there!

End of the Earth (Tianya-Haijiao)-Hainan Internatioanl Tourism


“La Relación del suceso de la venida del tirano chino del gobernador Guido de Lavezares 1575 Épica española en Asia en el siglo XVI" - states it well - as well as a recognition by a Ming Dynasty emisary of the Philippines then known as Las Islas Filipinas; as 'Beyond China's realm' and they also exchanged maps and bounderies, which showed China had no claims south of islands of the Formosa (taiwan channel) hence - end of arguement!


Ancient Chinese texts which mention the South China
Sea islands do not describe discovery of the islands but only describe
general knowledge about the islands, knowledge shared among the
fishermen, merchants and pirates from various countries who navigated
that sea since prehistory. Chinese writers were the first to write about
the South China Sea islands because China invented writing earlier, not
because Chinese people were the first to navigate that sea or the first
to discover the island.

Ancient Chinese texts which mention
the South China Sea islands mention those islands as foreign lands, not
as China’s territories, and do not describe which activities the
authority of ancient China exercised on the islands. Therefore, there is
no proof of China’s jurisdiction over the islands.

China only stands on a historical claim, and the Philippines has taken the view that Beijing’s claim is not supported by UNCLOS.

China's yelling and crying as a victim while encroaching on other’s land.


Chinese formal claims started on 2009 only contrary to China's state owned media claims that it started in 1945 or 1935.
In 1945, China simply decided to include the 9 dash line into their territorial maps.

Under international law, what is legally in favor of The Philippines is that, if no country can prove that they own these rocks,
then by default they would be adjudged to The Philippines. So the burden of proof is on China, if they both agree to bring this to an arbitration court.

Conclusion: THE PHILIPPINES IS THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF SCARBOROUGH SHOAL.

 

[S10]

Philippines is the rightful owner of an incoming lesson in modern warfare if they keep up the theft of islands. China has maintained the position since its formation in 1949, and there was no Scarborough Shoal on official maps of Phillippines prior to 1992.

 

[WuMaoCleverbot]

Philippines is the rightful owner of an incoming lesson in modern warfare if they keep up the theft of islands. China has maintained the position since its formation in 1949, and there was no Scarborough Shoal on official maps of Phillippines prior to 1992.

Did you say anything that would reinforce China's claim over the area? I'll answer that for you. You did not.
The Chinese government merely claims jurisdiction in these areas but they do not have effective jurisdiction as required for sovereignty.

China's claims are only on historical basis. On a 1270's map that they can't produce. And on historical claims about an astronomer supposedly using scarborough as a marker of sorts for charting the stars when there is clearly no records of such in the journals of the astronomer. China is fabricating their claims. Notice that instead of proving their claim, they try to discredit the claims an evidence of other countries like the Philippines and Vietnam which holds a lot of history in the areas involved. However, these
evidence are real and factual and cannot be rebuked, unlike that of China's where their claims are unclear, the evidence
either fabricated or missing.

Bottom line is, if we talk of evidence of sovereignty over the area, the Philippines wins. That's why China is afraid to
bring this issue to court and is giving a lot of invalid excuses for wanting only bilateral talks while resorting to
harassments and unreasonable demands.

The CCP knows so well a war either small or big broke out in regard to the SCS; it will spell the end of China growth and a
catalyst for China brokeup: Tibet, Manchu, Inner Mongolia and of course Taiwan people will eventually have a chance to get
away from repressive Han empire.

Civilized men can settle disputes in courts designed for these types of conflicting claims. And we have evidenced our claim
to be stronger and more valid than China's.

Conclusion from discussions remains unchanged: THE PHILIPPINES IS THE RIGHTFUL OWNER OF SCARBOROUGH SHOAL.

 

[beijingwalker]

China starts "combat ready" patrols in disputed seas

BEIJING, June 28 | Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:43am EDT

BEIJING, June 28 (Reuters) - China has begun combat-ready patrols in the waters around a disputed group of islands in the South China Sea, the Defence Ministry said on Thursday, the latest escalation in tensions over the potentially resource-rich area.

Asked about what China would do in response to Vietnamese air patrols over the Spratly Islands, the ministry's spokesman Geng Yansheng said Beijing would "resolutely oppose any militarily provocative behaviour".

"In order to protect national sovereignty and our security and development interests, the Chinese military has already set up a normal, combat-ready patrol system in seas under our control," he said.

"The Chinese military's resolve and will to defend territorial sovereignty and protect our maritime rights and interests is firm and unshakeable," Geng added, according to a transcript posted on the ministry's website (??????????).

He did not elaborate. The ministry forbids foreign reporters to attend its monthly briefings.

China is involved in a long-running dispute with Vietnam and the Philippines about ownership of the South China Sea and its myriad, mostly uninhabited, islands and atolls. Taiwan, Malaysia and Brunei also have claims.

Last week China said it "vehemently opposed" a Vietnamese law asserting sovereignty over the Paracel and Spratly Islands, which straddle key shipping lanes thought to contain rich energy reserves.

That row came days after an easing in a months-long stand-off between China and the Philippines, but shows the persistent cycle of territorial frictions triggered by what some see as Beijing's growing assertiveness in the area.

The South China Sea is potentially the biggest flashpoint for confrontation in Asia, and tensions have risen since the United States adopted a policy last year to reinforce its influence in the region. (Reporting by Ben Blanchard; Editing by Jeremy Laurence)

 

[ahfatzia]

One wonder China's increasingly strong stance on SCS, in the recent months, is a strong response to the US's adoption of a policy last year to reinforce its influence in the region. Is Hu eyeballing Obama with a message:" You will not intimidate me in my own backyard!"

 

[beijingwalker]

PLAN,time to unsheath the sword

 

[Yeti]

Hans need to be kept in checked and all ASEAN nations should rise to meet the threat of the dragon.

 

[beijingwalker]

 

[beijingwalker]

PLAN,time to unsheath the sword