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BEIJING: Russia's top jet engine-maker has signed an agreement to supply over 100 high powered engines for China's new fleet of fighter jets, but Beijing is yet to ratify the deal as it is apparently miffed by some stiff conditionalties of the deal, a media report said.

"The contract will involve 140 to 150 engines, but it has not been confirmed by authorities in Beijing," Alexander A Drozhzhin, the head of press for SALUT, a top Russian company that manufactures engines for the Su-27 aircraft, regarded as the fourth generation fighter aircraft was quoted as saying by China's state-run Global Times.

According to US media reports, the Russian state arms exporter, Rosoboronexport (ROE), announced in July a sale of 123 SALUT-made AL-31FN turbofan engines to China for USD 500 million.


The engine is a variant of that used in the Su-27 and Su-30MKK/MK2 fighter jets and is designed to be used on China's single-engine J-10 fighter jet, Drozhzhin said.

The reported deal involves the third series of the AL-31FN, which have a maximum thrust of 12,500 kilogrammes and 2,000-hour service life.

The AL-31FNs currently used on China's J-10s have 11,700-kilogramme thrust and 1,500-hour service life, he said.

China's air force development made headlines earlier this year after news about the prototype J-20 stealth plane emerged. However, aircraft engine design and manufacture have been lagging behind, the newspaper said.

China, which has not got much of technological access to both US and EU aviation technology due to restrictions, is developing a range of new planes including the stealth version, but the engines for the most of these planes were still being imported from Russia and Ukraine, mostly case-by -case.

According to defence analysts, the Chinese, who are masters of reverse engineering technology, were bogged down with Russian and Ukraine insistence they should be used only planes and not for reproduction.

It is the same case with the JF-17, being jointly produced by China and Pakistan as the engines for it were being sourced from Russia.

Pakistan plans to get 250 JF-17 in the next few years. About 50 planes were produced last year and China has assured handing over another 50 this year.

Since 2009, China used Taihang engines, developed and produced by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), have been fitted to the double engine J-11 fighter jets, its J-15 carrier-based variant and an upgraded version of the J-10 single engine fighter.

Lin Zuoming, President AVIC said it had taken 20 years to develop the Taihang, a Chinese engine and that work on the engine was progressing very well.
 
China, which has not got much of technological access to both US and EU aviation technology due to restrictions, is developing a range of new planes including the stealth version, but the engines for the most of these planes were still being imported from Russia and Ukraine, mostly case-by -case.

The AL-31FN for J-10A and AL-31F for J-11A.
 
Looks like China is still struggling with it's engines and had to go to Russia which is playing hardball.
 
Looks like China is still struggling with it's engines and had to go to Russia which is playing hardball.

Why did you just conveniently leave out the last part of the article?

Since 2009, China used Taihang engines, developed and produced by the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), have been fitted to the double engine J-11 fighter jets, its J-15 carrier-based variant and an upgraded version of the J-10 single engine fighter.

Lin Zuoming, President AVIC said it had taken 20 years to develop the Taihang, a Chinese engine and that work on the engine was progressing very well.
 
What else is he going to say? that it is not going well this is China afterall

The Chinese engine right now faces some quantity problem, not the quality one.

We don't have the production that is enough to include the old J-10A and J-11A, therefore we just bought some AL-31 for the temporary substitute.

Just like US bought some Mi-17 from Russia for its Afghan ally.
 
The Chinese engine right now faces some quantity problem, not the quality one.

We don't have the production that is enough for the old J-10A and J-11A, therefore we just bought some AL-31 for the temporary substitute.

Justl like US bought some Mi-17 from Russia for its Afghan ally.


Don't believe you i think there are issues with the quality as well hence why it is still being worked on
 
Don't believe you i think there are issues with the quality as well hence why it is still being worked on

There are only 150 engines, which can barely fit no more than 100 aircrafts in PLAAF's inventory.

Since PLAAF has more than 1000 3rd gen aircrafts, and from this you can see only a small fraction of the PLAAF aircrafts use the Russian engines.
 
Lin Zuoming, President AVIC said it had taken 20 years to develop the Taihang, a Chinese engine and that work on the engine was progressing very well.
LOL,
100% exactly

J10B WIHT WS10B (132KN)
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PLAN J15 WITH WS10H
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PLAN J11BH WITH WS10A
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PLAAF J11B and J11BS WITH WS10A
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There are only 150 engines, which can barely fit no more than 100 aircrafts in PLAAF's inventory.

Since PLAAF has more than 1000 3rd gen aircrafts, and from this you can see only a small fraction of the PLAAF aircrafts use the Russian engines.


Are you saying that all your old 3rd gen fighters will have the new Taihang engines as a upgrade in the future?
 
Are you saying that all your old 3rd gen fighters will have the new Taihang engines as a upgrade in the future?

The Taihang engines have been largely equipped in PLAAF after 2007, but its quantity is still not enough to cover the old aircrafts like J-11A/J-10A/Su-27SK.

But those old aircrafts' engine won't be updated into WS-10A/B, since it would cost more money to redesign it.
 
The Taihang is still only equivalent to 1980s American engines it is not very advanced until future variants start appearing.
 
The Taihang is still only equivalent to 1980s American engines it is not very advanced until future variants start appearing.

Since Taihang is a 3rd gen jet engine, and WS-15 is a 4th gen which is a true rival of F-119.

They are already two prototypes of WS-15 being installed on J-20, and this engine is definitely much more powerful than WS-10B(135KN), which takes a very short distance for the takeoff without an afterburner.
 
It's still not in full production as of today we will have to wait till it is

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Yes .But only 3 countries have Such high-grade turbofan engine in the world now.russian usa and china,


You forget France
 
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