China should open up IT, pharma to India: think tank

[conworldus]

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[jetti]

This is a joke, right??

5 people in India speak Mandarin Chinese. India gets creamed by China in any computer coding competition. Yeah, we need Indian IT like we an xxxxxxx right here (pointing at elbow).

As for Indian Pharma, we know late 19th century organic chemistry too. The rest is just pirating othet country's patented drugs. No thanks.

shows the level of IT understanding in china.. IT si not about writing a smart piece of code.roll out with smart processes an enterprise wide ERP platform under time and budget. Let China beat india in that and then talk.
ON pharma., then i dont know why chinese sell fake 'Made in India' drugs and kill poor africans.

 

[shuttler]

shows the level of IT understanding in china.. IT si not about writing a smart piece of code.roll out with smart processes an enterprise wide ERP platform under time and budget. Let China beat india in that and then talk.
ON pharma., then i dont know why chinese sell fake 'Made in India' drugs and kill poor africans.

We produce pretty good programmers. The users have to be conversant in our language!

I guess there is not much difference between the 2 labels - whether indian drugs made in india or faked in China, the poor African will die anyway.

 

[jetti]

We produce pretty good programmers. The users have to be conversant in our language!

I guess there is not much difference between the 2 labels - whether indian drugs made in india or faked in China, the poor African will die anyway.

it seems like a funny quote... but indian pharma companies are being propositined by american and japanses companies in recognition of their quality. eg Ranbaxy was beought over by Daiichi Sankyo of japan.
If you dont know the business dont troll.

I am sure you have good programmers. But as I said IT is not about cool programming. As someone in the indian IT industry which has given me the opportunity to work alll over the world I can say that Indian IT is not doing too bad. But I agree with one thing that IT consulting is about client management and there we may fail in China initially. So we need to build inroads slowly by doing things that dont require much user interactions. But I believe in China/japan we HAVE to learn the local lang

 

[shuttler]

it seems like a funny quote... but indian pharma companies are being propositined by american and japanses companies in recognition of their quality. eg Ranbaxy was beought over by Daiichi Sankyo of japan.
If you dont know the business dont troll.

I am sure you have good programmers. But as I said IT is not about cool programming. As someone in the indian IT industry which has given me the opportunity to work alll over the world I can say that Indian IT is not doing too bad. But I agree with one thing that IT consulting is about client management and there we may fail in China initially. So we need to build inroads slowly by doing things that dont require much user interactions. But I believe in China/japan we HAVE to learn the local lang

same to u!

that is in your own block of recognition. why the pain of asking for our recognition when from my perspective you cannot compete with us! Do you know accupuncture? Do you know TCM? You may throw in the money anytime you want and as much as you can afford into China. No one is stopping you!

I am not at all interested in where indians are working! I have also read some reports criticising the poor indian work ethics/
quality of works. You bragging as much as you like to is vile here!

 

[jetti]

same to u!

that is in your own block of recognition. why the pain of asking for our recognition when from my perspective you cannot compete with us! Do you know accupuncture? Do you know TCM? You may throw in the money anytime you want and as much as you can afford into China. No one is stopping you!

I am not at all interested in where indians are working! I have also read some reports criticising the poor indian work ethics/
quality of works. You bragging as much as you like to is vile here!

What are you a 8 yr old.. saying same to you.
The point is about opening china for indian pharma.and you were the one who was vile saying that indian medicines will kill chinese, which a troll.
second i did nt brag about IT or anything.. u did by saying chinese coders cream INdian IT.so i just gave you a reality from my experience. and i didnt ask for anyones recognition. just tried to dispel your ignorance. about poor ethics.. i dont know about ethics, but we have been doing it work for the last 30 years and your ethics jibe sounds a bit lame to me.

lastly we dont care about quack medicines like tcm or accupuncture. we want to go there to sell real drugs. we dont tcm as we dont want to kill endangered species for you guys to get your libido up.

 

[shuttler]

What are you a 8 yr old.. saying same to you.
The point is about opening china for indian pharma.and you were the one who was vile saying that indian medicines will kill chinese, which a troll.
second i did nt brag about IT or anything.. u did by saying chinese coders cream INdian IT.so i just gave you a reality from my experience. and i didnt ask for anyones recognition. just tried to dispel your ignorance. about poor ethics.. i dont know about ethics, but we have been doing it work for the last 30 years and your ethics jibe sounds a bit lame to me.

lastly we dont care about quack medicines like tcm or accupuncture. we want to go there to sell real drugs. we dont tcm as we dont want to kill endangered species for you guys to get your libido up.

chill out troll!

 

[jetti]

Then why is the life expectancy in China 8 years (12%!) longer than India? 73 v. 65?

India IT know how is nothing more than some visual basic coding. If India has a product to offer, like operating system, it can just sell the product, and China has no barrier for that. Wait, India has NO product to sell.

ok fine thanks for the advise.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

shows the level of IT understanding in china.. IT si not about writing a smart piece of code.roll out with smart processes an enterprise wide ERP platform under time and budget. Let China beat india in that and then talk.
ON pharma., then i dont know why chinese sell fake 'Made in India' drugs and kill poor africans.

We don't need to; we will let the Indians get the code slave jobs while they can't even write their own search engine, can't even write their own operating system and can't even write the control codes for their own machinery.

Let me just say this: China's space probes all have Chinese control software. India's LCA imported avionics from Lockheed Martin.

 

[jetti]

We don't need to; we will let the Indians get the code slave jobs while they can't even write their own search engine, can't even write their own operating system and can't even write the control codes for their own machinery.

Let me just say this: China's space probes all have Chinese control software. India's LCA imported avionics from Lockheed Martin.

why are comparing space probe software and LCA avionics? are they the same kind of s/w?

you are talking about entirely different competencies. rolling out massive business solutions and software (what you called code-slaving) is one thing which is india;s strength.. developing software for technology is another which china does for itself.
so until you compare like to like you cant judge. usain bolt cannot say to Phelps that he is faster in 100m. which is true but doesnt make sense.

Secondly the discussion is about opening chinese it and pharma . nothing wrong in that. someone said chinese it is already opened up. im not aware, if so then good that indian it / pharmawill have a platform for more business. If not.. well that why YOUR think tank is saying it should happen

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

why are comparing space probe software and LCA avionics? are they the same kind of s/w?

you are talking about entirely different competencies. rolling out massive business solutions and software (what you called code-slaving) is one thing which is india;s strength.. developing software for technology is another which china does for itself.
so until you compare like to like you cant judge. usain bolt cannot say to Phelps that he is faster in 100m. which is true but doesnt make sense.

Secondly the discussion is about opening chinese it and pharma . nothing wrong in that. someone said chinese it is already opened up. im not aware, if so then good that indian it / pharmawill have a platform for more business. If not.. well that why YOUR think tank is saying it should happen

space probe software is more complex but follows many of the same principles as avionics.\\

business solutions is not exactly high tech code; most of it has been done before, just needs to be applied to a different specific situation.

 

[jetti]

space probe software is more complex but follows many of the same principles as avionics.\\

business solutions is not exactly high tech code; most of it has been done before, just needs to be applied to a different specific situation.

india also writes its own s/w for its satellite launches and other stuff like chandrayaan. i dont konw more about this subejct
please tell me which is the larger market? market for writing space probe or market for rolling out business solutions?

 

[oct605032048]

This article proved that in China we do have free media without brains like CNN/Fox.

please tell me which is the larger market? market for writing space probe or market for rolling out business solutions?

Chinese market is 4 times bigger than yours.

 

[redhat]

China is not known for any 'Top Programmers'. Top Programmers are not not judged by competitions solving already solved problems.The chinese are simply doing hard work to get top scores in competitions ,and they get due support and trainining from their country.


The contributions of chinese to Computer Science is near zero,or else we would be seeing Chinese topping these lists

List of programmers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of pioneers in computer science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of computer scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of programming language researchers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and more..

 

[jetti]

This article proved that in China we do have free media without brains like CNN/Fox.



Chinese market is 4 times bigger than yours.

I am talking about global market for writing space probe s.w and global market for biz sol.

China is not known for any 'Top Programmers'. Top Programmers are not not judged by competitions solving already solved problems.The chinese are simply doing hard work to get top scores in competitions ,and they get due support and trainining from their country.


The contributions of chinese to Computer Science is near zero,or else we would be seeing Chinese topping these lists

List of programmers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of pioneers in computer science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of computer scientists - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

List of programming language researchers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and more..

you cant dismiss their achievements like they dismiss ours. because if you do that you can never improve.